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Lessons From Egypt: The United States Can Count On Israel, But Can Israel Count on the United States?

Posted: 02/ 4/11 01:16 PM ET

It's too early to learn all the possible lessons -- and there will be many -- from the current turmoil throughout the Middle East, but one important lesson is that there is only one democracy that the United States can always count on to remain a strong ally. That democracy is Israel. No one knows whether any or all of the Arab states that are currently in flux will pull an "Iran" on us -- turning from friend to foe in the blink of an Ayatollah.

The optimists are hoping for more of a Lebanon than an Iran, but even Lebanon -- with a better history of democracy than any other Arab country -- is now essentially in the hands of Hezbollah. The United States cannot count on the new Egypt remaining an ally, even with the carrot of massive aid.

Some of the blame for this uncertainty falls on us for supporting friendly dictators, from the Shah to Hosni Mubarak to King Abdullah, but the reality is that the United States simply cannot rely on the increasingly vocal Arab street to support our interests. That is precisely why we have, rightly or wrongly, felt the need to cozy up to Arab tyrants who falsely promise us stability in exchange for financial and military support.

Not so with Israel. But the pressing question remains: Will the United States reciprocate, or will we be a fair-weather friend to our stalwart ally?

So far, we've been principled enough to reciprocate. United States administrations may prefer some Israeli electoral outcomes to others. We may prefer certain Israeli leaders over others. But in the end, we recognize that Israel is a stable democracy that does not need propping up from the outside.

The military aid we give Israel is not designed to protect a regime against its own citizens, as it is with regard to the aid to Jordan and Egypt. Our assistance to Israel is calculated to protect it from external enemies like Iran, sworn to its destruction.

The people of Israel may not love a particular American President or administration, but they love America and what we stand for. And Israel helps America -- with intelligence gathering, development of military weapons, cybertechnology defense and in numerous other ways. The relationship is a model of symbiosis.

But recent events in the Mideast, particularly the haste with which we abandoned Mubarak, our most loyal Arab ally, has raised questions among some Israelis as to whether Israel can always count on the United States.

Skeptical Israelis wonder how this, or any other, American administration would react to a demand from the Arab street across the entire Middle East or the United States to abandon Israel. This demand could come even if Israel makes peace with the Palestinians and agrees to permanent borders, since Islamic radicals don't recognize Israel's right to exist within any borders. Israelis recall how quickly we abandoned the shah and how responsive our government has been to the demands of protesters in Tunisia and Egypt.

Israelis wants real democracy among its Arab neighbors, but they fear that elections alone -- particularly elections that put groups like Hamas, Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood in power -- will produce anything but real democracy. Hamas' violent takeover in Gaza provides the negative model that they fear will emerge from the Egyptian chaos.

While recognizing the enormous difference between democratic Israel and the tyrannical regimes against which the Arab street is now rising, these concerned Israelis are contemplating a worst case scenario. They fear that history has shown that a friend in desperate need is a friend often betrayed by superpowers.

This skepticism is not necessarily fueled by any criticism of the United States, but rather by a realistic recognition that America has its own national interests which it will always place over the interests of even its staunchest allies. The United States is, for better or worse, the world's most important superpower, and it must necessarily serve as a kind of policeman to the entire world.

Most Americans believe that it will always be in America's interests to support Israel because of its commitment to values akin to our own. But there are some Americans -- from those on the extreme right like Sen. Rand Paul, to so-called realists like Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer, to those on the extreme left, like Noam Chomsky -- who would see no problem in abandoning Israel at the drop of a keffiyeh.

Accordingly, though most Israelis believe that America will always support its survival, many refuse to count on it. That's why they developed a long term strategy of self-reliance. The attitude of many Israelis can perhaps best be summed up by the important lesson Elie Wiesel has taught all Jews to learn from the Holocaust: "Always believe the threat of your enemies more than the promises of your friends."

The threats being made by the Muslim Brotherhood to destroy the Jewish state by force must be taken seriously. The promises by the United States to stand behind Israel, though I believe they will remain true, must necessarily be viewed skeptically by Israelis. Israel must always be prepared to defend itself.

Dershowitz, a professor at Harvard Law School, is author of "Trials of Zion."


 
 
 
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02:13 AM on 02/08/2011
A great article. usually, I'm not the biggest fan of Dershowitz, but this may be the most important thing he has ever written. And, unfortunately, it will go right over the heads of all the terror apologists/islamic supremacists who commonly post on this site.

In the middle east, we have two choices; secular liberalism, or islamic fundamentalism. If we do not support secular liberalism wherever it is found, then we will find ourselves in 20, 30 years being forced to deal with an islamic supremacist middle east that despises the left wing that enables it today even more than the right wing that currently works to keep it in check.
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04:35 PM on 02/08/2011
False dichotomy. Countries can certainly be democratic without being liberal. And as for being secular, many on this board claim Israel is democratic and yet they also claim it to be a Jewish state.

This implies, by Israel supporters at least, that even secularism isnt neccessary for democracy either. Your post has no basis.
04:47 PM on 02/08/2011
sorry, my comment was meant for those with the education to understand that the word "liberal" has meanings beyond "left-wing".

And there can be secular states with official religions and based upon religion. The english crown is, for example, head of the church of england as well as being head of state. Does that mean england is not a secular country? Of course not. When I say "secular state" I don't mean "state where religion has no official role". I mean a state that is not ruled by religious decree.

Islam is not only a religion, the way christianity and judaism are. It is a way of life, with opinions on literally every facet of life and, more importantly, governance. And an islamic state cannot be a pluralistic liberal democracy. It goes against islam.
01:50 PM on 02/07/2011
I am definitely of the opinion that the US does FAR more for Israel than Israel does for the US.
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04:37 PM on 02/08/2011
Yes much more. By many orders of magnitude.
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10:45 AM on 02/07/2011
"The military aid we give Israel is not designed to protect a regime against its own citizens, as it is with regard to the aid to Jordan and Egypt. Our assistance to Israel is calculated to protect it from external enemies like Iran, sworn to its destruction."

THE PROOF:



The full quote translated directly to English:



"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".



Word by word translation:



Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from). "

http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=node/10828
02:15 AM on 02/08/2011
yea, except people have brought this question to ahmedinejad's personal office. They probably know what he meant a LITTLE more than some far-left westerners.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/weekinreview/11bronner.html?ex=1307678400&en=efa2bd266224e880&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
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02:11 PM on 02/06/2011
Yes, the US can rely on Israel to continue to do outrageous things (like support a dictator while most of the world is cheering for the popular uprising that is getting rid of him) while Israel always has to ask the question 'Will the US still continue to support us while we do such things?' though so far the answer from the US has been a pretty resounding yes in every instance (some times, like say the Israeli refusal to actually stop violating the Geneva Conventions for a few months, the answer might be a little more muted than resounding, but it is still 'yes')
02:16 AM on 02/08/2011
bibi recently said in a speech that democracy in egypt will be more helpful in the long run than a friendly dictator. maybe you should pay attention.
04:13 PM on 02/09/2011
Not if he supports Suleiman.
04:12 PM on 02/09/2011
Be nice of Israel to quit spying on us and not sell our secrets to our enemies.
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02:24 AM on 02/06/2011
Let's not forget that many Americans have a unique connection to Israel. We have a sizable Jewish population that understandably feels affinity for the world's only Jewish state, and we have an even more sizable Christian population that sees Israel as some sort of biblical fulfillment.

Whether or not one agrees in the logic of those connections isn't the point. (Some people who post here see the need for a Jewish state as outdated and anachronistic. Many more -myself included- don't appreciate the dogmatically-driven politics of American evangelicals.) The point is that even if we wake up tomorrow and the Middle East has turned into a mass of finely-run parliamentary democracies, our ties with Israel will remain for reasons outside of political necessity.

The fear that Israel will be abandoned is unfounded. However, the fear that settlement activity and demographics will spell the end of Israel as a Jewish state is more real and more pressing. Mr. Dershowitz and other influential supporters of Israel should be looking to solve that issue instead of waxing philosophic about our relationship.
10:56 AM on 02/06/2011
At the moment, depending on what statistics you use there is either an equal amount of Muslims in this country to Jews, or slightly more Muslims. In addition, Islam is far and away the fastest growing religion in the United States. And to top off the cherry on that sundae, Evangelicals might be on the right-wing pro Israel side of the debate but they have no sway outside of America and (like it or not) the Muslim and Arab states have a lot more sway in a wider variety of issues both inside and outside of America relating to foreign policy and other topics because of their sheer numbers, location, resources, etc. (as opposed to Evangelicals - who admittedly have a much larger sway on internal domestic social issues but that's not what's up for debate right now) I agree that those logical points are irrelevant when it comes to emotional appeals but those logical points do make it difficult to develop a reasonable argument as to why we should (or will in future) place a higher value on ties with Israel then other countries in the region.
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12:20 PM on 02/06/2011
We also have a sizeable Jewish population that doesn't care much about Israel one way or another. And I am part of a smaller but significant minority of Jews who are deeply upset at the nonstop persecution of Palestinians by Israel. I believe unless Israel makes a 180 degree turn and abandons colonization and ethnic cleansing Israel is heading for a big fall.
04:16 PM on 02/09/2011
That population of which you speak is growing in the current college-age population.

They grew up among Arabs, and others, in the US, and they also tend to be liberal.
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07:40 PM on 02/05/2011
Dershowitz writes: "The military aid we give Israel is not designed to protect a regime against its own citizens, as it is with regard to the aid to Jordan and Egypt. Our assistance to Israel is calculated to protect it from external enemies like Iran, sworn to its destruction."

Actually, U.S. military aid to Israel is primarily used to "protect" it from rebellion by several million stateless Palestinians that Israel has insisted on ruling over for 43 years. Israel controls whether these people are free to move around within their areas or internationally, whether they are free to engage in political expression, whether they are free to engage in business, whether they should be free or languishing in Israeli prisons, even whether these people live or die. Israel has severely curtailed the importation of civilian goods, including food, water, medicines, cooking fuel, children's toys to Gaza. Yet these people have no right to vote. So much for democracy. Perhaps when the occupation lasts 50, 75, or 100 years, people like Dershowitz will finally realize that democracy implies consent of the governed, and Israel does not qualify.

As for Iran, it clearly would like to see Israel replaced by a regime that provides full rights to all subjects, regardless of ethnicity or religion. Dershowitz likes to call that "destruction" of the Jewish State. But Iran has never threatened to use its military against Israel, despite innumerable threats in the opposite direction.
11:20 PM on 02/05/2011
David Samel, I'm curious about the goal of your position regarding Israel. What end result do you want to see? The above seems to imply that you want one Arab majority country between the Jordan and the Mediterranean so badly that you imagine that Israel is trying to govern the Palestinians. Yes, they have been holding on to the West Bank ever since Israel was attacked in 1967, but during most of that time they've been trying to find some way of getting rid of it without being attacked again. If the consensus in Israel was to annex the West Bank, and govern the Palestinians, they would have done it in 67. My understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that the Palestinians and the Israelies had several times been close to arranging a Palestinian state, but other Arab parties have insisted on encouraging unrest and essentially blocking progress. Now it seems that the peace makers have been beaten back too often, and the crazies on both sides have been empowered too much.
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12:25 AM on 02/06/2011
Mike - I do not want to see a Muslim majority. I want to see a country that respects all citizens equally, regardless of who is in the majority. Let me ask you this. If Jews and all minorities are guaranteed equal rights under the law in the US, shouldn’t Palestinians, both those who are citizens of Israel and those who are not, also be guaranteed equal rights in the land of their birth? Why is inequality, which is unthinkable here, be the acceptable norm there? Palestinian citizens are much worse off than their Jewish co-citizens, and the more numerous stateless Palestinians much worse off than that. I think that is intolerably unfair, and that is why I would like to see one state of equals.

It does not take much imagination to see that Israel is governing the Palestinians. When Israel won the 1967 War (that it started, btw), it decided to hold on to the territories it conquered. It only gave up the Sinai after Egypt fought a war to reclaim it. It did not even contemplate giving up the West Bank until the early 90's, when it claimed for the first time to foresee a Palestinian state but continued to illegally settle its citizens on more and more of the West Bank. You have willfully pulled the wool over your own eyes.
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04:59 AM on 02/06/2011
"Yes, they have been holding on to the West Bank ever since Israel was attacked in 1967, but during most of that time they've been trying to find some way of getting rid of it without being attacked again."
The ongoing colonization effort makes a mockery of these claims, plain and simple.
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12:21 PM on 02/06/2011
Fanned and Faved! I agree with every word you are saying.
04:25 PM on 02/09/2011
You are fanned (again) for fanning HIM. :-)
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12:35 PM on 02/05/2011
So what exactly has Israel done for US that it couldnt have done without?
I see a lot of ppl counter this with the statement that lot of arab allies are against the US; that ally isnt doing anything, so on and so forth; but these are not answers. What good has Israel brought US? This is the country US has been taking care of like a baby. I'm very interested.

As for what good US has brought Israel.. Just about everything should sum it up. As far as i know its a purely one-way gain in this relationship and moreover the most unwanted after-effect of having literally protected Israel (despite its long-standing oppression of palestinians) is extremism from the middle east at the US' doorstep..

How can anyone make a statement such as "The US can count on Israel, but can Israel count on the US?" This is very hard to digest. What part of all these decades of unwavering support from the US (economically and politically, despite all of its violations) seems non-supportive to Israel?
"A model of symbiosis"?! hmm...that just tops everything in this article..
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11:23 AM on 02/05/2011
Dershowitz tries to dance around the fundamental issue again, this time with less finesse than usual. America does not need to support Israel in order to fend off hostility from 'the Arab Street'. The Arab Street is hostile to America because of our never-ending support of Israel. They really don't care about any American policies other than that. We need Israel because of all the help it gives us in military technology? Did he really write that? How can he applaud Israel's being the only 'real' democracy in the middle east while calling for the prevention of democracy from taking root in Egypt in the same paragraph?
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01:38 PM on 02/05/2011
So much ingratitide its not even funny.
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09:30 AM on 02/06/2011
>>The Arab Street is hostile to America because of our never-endi­ng support of Israel....They really don't care about any American policies other than that.

That must explain why there was not a word about Israel from the "street" in Tunisia, and nary a word about Israel on the Egyptian "street".
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02:30 PM on 02/06/2011
First of all, not hearing a word of anti-Israel sentiment from the American news media is the same as not hearing a word from a fire hydrant. Second, Dershowitz explained that democracies that take root in Arab countries may result in authoritarian regimes that are hostile to Israel and the US- if you don't feel that the popular uprisings in Tunisia or Egypt were particularly anti-Israel or Anti-American, you just proved Dershowitz wrong, and Israel has nothing to worry about. He apparently thinks that it has plenty to worry about.
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02:16 AM on 02/05/2011
If Israel is "there" for the US--where are their troops in Afghanistan and Iraq?

After all, the Iraq war was pushed partially because of Israeli interests.
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04:52 AM on 02/05/2011
1) Israel wanted America to attack Iran, not Iraq. You can look it up.

2) Israel is not part of the coalition for the same reason it was not part of the coalition in 1991. You can look that up too.
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02:12 AM on 02/06/2011
I guess you never heard of PNAC, eh?

You can look that up.
04:30 PM on 02/09/2011
Hate to say it, but, you're right about #1. Israel and the US have been pushing eachother to attack Iran for a long time.
07:02 PM on 02/04/2011
One entertaining outcome of the Tunisian and Egyptian people's casting off of totalitarianism is watching the gyrations of the dervishes who believe in democracy only insofar as it serves the selfish interests of their situation ethics.

The great majority of Americans reject the very idea of supporting totalitarian regimes. It follows then that abandoning "Mubarak, our most loyal Arab ally" is democracy in action.

This writer seems to prefer that the U.S. emulates Mubarak's model and pursues the interests of the few (who happen to share his loyalties) rather than the many who do not.
02:28 AM on 02/08/2011
Simplistic assessment. The muslim brotherhood is by far the most organized political group outside of mubarak's circle in egypt. If elections were held tomorrow, they might well win, despite the fact that most polls put their popular support at under 30%. Is that democracy? Hardly.
04:40 AM on 02/09/2011
Nice gyration.
04:32 PM on 02/09/2011
Bibi has been flailing about for the US to keep Mubarek in power.
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05:18 PM on 02/04/2011
Israel supports the US: Like when new settlements were announced in East Jerusalem when the US vice president was visiting Israeli leaders?
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06:18 PM on 02/04/2011
How is what you described considered not "supporting the US"?
12:49 PM on 02/05/2011
The United States has repeatedly stated that the settlements hurt the peace process in the middle east and General Petraeus has also flatly stated that Israeli intransigence on the peace process is putting our troops in harms way.

There is also a myriad of other evidence which shows that by supporting Israel while it builds these "settlements" we are radicalizing the citizens of the Middle East against us. Common sense would tell anybody that.

But by all means, go ahead and tell me why it's in America's interests to support a belligerent apartheid state which systemically steals the land of the native population of Palestine.
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Most Americans support Israel.
08:24 PM on 02/04/2011
Announcing construction in their own capital? That's considered not supporting the USA?
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12:14 PM on 02/05/2011
In the 62 years that Israel has existed, East Jerusalem has never been part of it.

Nor has the West Bank, Gaza, Sinai nor the Golan.
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05:07 PM on 02/04/2011
Very good article Professor.

One way to significantly decrease the threat of a new pan arab war to annihilate Israel is for the US to sponsor and fast track Israel into NATO.
If the arab regimes are facing a NATO ( meaning a serious US ) response for an attack, they may be inclined to avoid such a war....maybe.
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11:23 AM on 02/05/2011
Dream on, fantasist. Israel isn't joining NATO till they end the occupation and open up their offensive nuclear program to inspection. In other words. Never.
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05:58 PM on 02/09/2011
>>Never.

You *never* know. :)

NATO head to make first official visit to Israel today
Feb. 8, 2011
NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen is to meet separately with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman.

Rasmussen is expected to present to his hosts NATO's plans for the next several years in the areas of counter-terrorism, missile defense and intervention in arenas beyond Europe. His discussion here will focus on the situation in Egypt and on Israel's relations with the alliance. ...
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/nato-head-to-make-first-official-visit-to-israel-today-1.341908
04:44 AM on 02/06/2011
And Turkey's going to let Israel join NATO? Right!
02:31 AM on 02/08/2011
turkey will probably leave nato on their own in the next few years. They gain nothing from it now that the USSR is gone, and their own increasingly islamist citizens hate that nato is active in afghanistan.
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04:52 PM on 02/04/2011
Prof. Dershowitz, excellent article.

I think right now, Israel must do a couple of things.

1- Stop the settlements and focus on tightening our bond with the US.
2- Prepare for war, and take back the Sinai should the Muslim Brotherhood take over and not recognize the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt.
3- Not worry about relying on the US, the Jews have to rely on themselves as they have been doing since 1948.
09:52 PM on 02/04/2011
"3- Not worry about relying on the US, the Jews have to rely on themselves as they have been doing since 1948."

So they'll be telling the U.S. they don't need their vetoes, nonstop diplomatic interventions, and 3.5 billion a year plus loan guarantees plus extras (like 250 million for a "missile defense system" in 2010), eh? Or are they gonna keep their hands out while their government whines some more about being all on their own?
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08:36 AM on 02/05/2011
I suppose that it would be asking you too much to pay closer attention to the fact that I am not a decision maker but someone that talks back with opinions and suggestions eh? it bothers you to even acknowledge that the Jews did just fine without a dime of US aid at least till the early 70's eh? They did fine, won every attack, sent the Arabs packing in fact, they can easily do it again, without US aid. In fact I hope that the aid stops just to shut people like you up.
04:04 PM on 02/04/2011
Things haven't changed much at all from 1967 when the US did directly tell Israel that they'd have to go it alone. It's simply a fact that Israel might be able to count on the US in the long term, but in an emergency the US will not get involved until Israel becomes a Kuwait. The whole point to Israel is to have a country where Jews don't have to count on the benevolence and tolerance of anyone else, since the fact is that this can't be counted on.

It's odd that there appear to be so many people that don't recognize that as very real threats escalate around them Israel will focus exclusively on getting ready for war, not peace. History has taught them what they have to do to survive. I've even heard the opinion that the more threatened Israel becomes the more likely they will be to make a deal with the Palestinians. I'm not sure what words I can use to describe this here without being cencored.
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04:50 PM on 02/04/2011
Good post Mike, very good post.
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05:02 PM on 02/04/2011
F&F