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The Republican Think Tank Debate

Posted: 11/22/11 11:13 PM ET

The official name of CNN's candidate forum at Constitution Hall in Washington was "The Republican National Security Debate." More accurately, it should have been called the "Republican Think Tank Debate," because the questions came almost entirely from representatives of the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute, which co-sponsored the event. Celebrity conservatives like Ed Meese, Paul Wolfowitz, and David Addington joined a parade of research fellows, program directors, and executive vice presidents for an inside-the-Beltway event par excellence.

This eleventh major presidential primary debate of the season was a wonkish affair, held before a wonkish throng. Anyone looking for fireworks or one-liners or gaffes came away disappointed -- the debaters and questioners operated in tandem to keep the discussion serious and substantive. With the notable exceptions of Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman, the candidates found themselves agreeing upon many issues, yet the level of their dialogue allowed for differences to emerge as well.

Thanks in large measure to his recent polling gains, Newt Gingrich grabbed a leading role in this debate. In earlier candidate gatherings he has tended to play a supporting part, one that would not be out of place in a TV sitcom: the bombastic, self-important next-door-neighbor who parachutes into the main action just long enough to perform his predictable shtick -- in Newt's case, a quick blast of media-bashing plus a reminder or two of how smart he is. The Gingrich sound bite machine has served up plenty of appetizers in these debates, but never the main course.

At the CNN forum, Gingrich stepped comfortably into the center ring. As a member in good standing of the Washington think tank set, the former Speaker of the House held something of a home field advantage, and the substantive tone of the questioning further put him at ease. For ninety minutes, at least, Gingrich managed to sand off the rougher edges of his personality, which is something he will need to do more of if he hopes to appeal to the general electorate.

But will the man ever be able to stop patting himself on the back? Asked a question about extending the Patriot Act, Gingrich began by saying, "I spent years studying this stuff." He is so self-referential that he wastes his response time passing judgment on the wording of the questions, the quality of the topics, the statements of his colleagues, and so on. All this me-me-me does not endear him to the audience.

Mitt Romney performed well at this debate -- no surprise there -- though he came across as a bit wishy-washy in a couple of his responses. Romney's rhetorical strategy is to pretend that he is debating President Obama, not his rivals on the stage. For the most part he pulls off this maneuver successfully, at least in part because his fellow candidates let him get away with it.

Ron Paul had one of his best debates of the season, bravely staking out contrarian positions and standing his ground on everything from America's relationship with Israel to medical marijuana. Paul was at his most passionate when arguing the question of liberty-versus-security, and for once he managed to avoid going off on any odd tangents. His presence in the debates is important; it keeps the field from marching in lockstep.

Rick Perry got through the night in one piece, after starting out on a tone-deaf note. For some reason, in front of this sophisticated crowd of Washington insiders, Perry turned his opening statement into a corny verbal love letter to his wife -- who, as far as we know, has nothing to do with national security. As the evening went on, Perry made his points without flubbing them, though too often you could hear him reciting his lessons -- at one point, within a couple of sentences, Perry cited the Monroe Doctrine, Hezbollah, Mexico, Iran, and Hugo Chavez.

If recent ratings trends are any indication, several million viewers will have seen the Constitution Hall debate. All in all, they received a decent glimpse into the candidates' positions on national affairs.

 
The official name of CNN's candidate forum at Constitution Hall in Washington was "The Republican National Security Debate." More accurately, it should have been called the "Republican Think Tank Deb...
The official name of CNN's candidate forum at Constitution Hall in Washington was "The Republican National Security Debate." More accurately, it should have been called the "Republican Think Tank Deb...
 
 
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fairchilds
the truth is out there, just google it
02:10 PM on 11/24/2011
This decent glimpse into the candidates' positions on national affairs unfortunately was riddled with outright lies, misrepresentations, and conflated issues.

To see a fact-check on statements made by the candidates check this link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checking-the-CNN-national-security-debate

The worst actually was Bachmann: again she fumbled her facts, made up stuff, and made illogical statements. But the others are all in there, too. It's rather funny on Perry's statements---it is too confusing to figure out what he is actually saying, but this is what we gather he is saying---LOL

It's really funny, in a stomach-wrenching sort of way. Especially when you think that all the tea party type republicans are swallowing it whole....
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alafonse
It's definitely a crap-shoot.
09:52 AM on 11/24/2011
I simply cannot watch any of these so-called debates— my bullsh|t meter keeps going off every time one of them opens his mouth.
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AlfredE69
Liberty Lovin' Tree Hugger
08:57 AM on 11/24/2011
I'd enjoy to see Ron Paul debate President Change (but it seems the same to me).
lightnessandjoy
Is micro-bio a new disease?
11:13 PM on 11/23/2011
Yawn.
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petef59
edit my micro-bio
10:52 PM on 11/23/2011
professor author must have stock in corporations funding heritage
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05:51 PM on 11/24/2011
Heritage is an "israel-first" front organization. Sad to see that the Republican party is now controlled by foreigners.
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dtallwalk
08:58 PM on 11/23/2011
Think tank
That's funnie
That's got to be painful when Thay think like in the morning when you head to the bath room
For the morning D-mp
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Edward Standley
opinionated jerk
08:36 PM on 11/23/2011
Listen to the GOP Presidential candidates and you'll realize that they don't have to think, all they have to know how to do is throw red meat. The jackals will snap it up as fast as they can fling it.
07:33 PM on 11/23/2011
Bookmark needed because HuffPo e-mail has a bug.
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studioh!
bridging the snarchasm
06:36 PM on 11/23/2011
republicans think, tank debate.
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06:26 PM on 11/23/2011
Happy Thanksgiving everyone. I hope we all can find a way to work together and actually move the nation forward. And by that I mean all Americans, not just the select few that the politicians work for.
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TaiJi2
04:17 PM on 11/23/2011
It was their best performance to date. I was barely yelling and cussing at the screen after the first half-hour.
04:15 PM on 11/23/2011
I think the debate revealed how absolutely out-of-step the candidates and their questioners are with the rest of the world. Most of them continued to rattle their sabres, and would not/could not concede that President Obama and Sec. of State Clinton and others have excelled in National Security issues. The candidates make me feel very insecure knowing that these are the "best" the Republican Party can offer.
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gevan
big dubya
07:22 PM on 11/23/2011
They are all show horses pandering to what they think the base wants to hear...except for Paul or Huntsman who have developed odd notions of what their own base might be.
08:43 PM on 11/23/2011
"excelled in National Security issues"

???

I'm not following...
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CollectiveNotIndividual
04:14 PM on 11/23/2011
Combined federal, state, and local government spending = 13% in 1900.....2­­1% in 1920....30­­% in 1970....an­­d almost 40% today. Government is growing fast. At current rates of growth government will = 100% of GDP within 65 years. There will be no business, there will be no private sector, there will be no self-emplo­­yeed...th­e­re will be nothing...­­.just government. For those of us who are conservative....this is all very sad. I hope those of you who are liberal know what you are doing....I hope things aren't as bad as I think they are going to be once your government controls everything.
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Slim Thomas
05:18 PM on 11/23/2011
At least you know what hope is.I wouldn't worry.Things are never as good as you think nor are they as bad as you think .I for one would quit listening to the news.Especially fox.You are doing good tho.At least you are looking at a good source of news.A liberal (somewhat) news site.You know that even in the USSR there never was 100% government.Do you really think that will happen here?You sound depressed.Don't be.Maybe in a few years we will forget how horrible the republicans became.
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bamma
endthewars
06:08 PM on 11/23/2011
52% on defense.Hope those of you who are conservative know what you are doing.oops never mind I know you don't.What a waste of lives and money.In the trillions.
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AlfredE69
Liberty Lovin' Tree Hugger
09:06 AM on 11/24/2011
I'd say Obama and the democrats in general are also to blame.
03:53 PM on 11/23/2011
I didn't hear much substance. Wolf did not ask one follow-up question. They got to say anything out of their mouths and the moderator didn't challenge them on anything.
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gevan
big dubya
07:23 PM on 11/23/2011
Wolf being Wolf.
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AlfredE69
Liberty Lovin' Tree Hugger
09:07 AM on 11/24/2011
Nothing of substance like ending the war on drugs, liberty, and shutting down all US military bases overseas?
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ultrawiz
Holding the Middle Ground
02:48 PM on 11/23/2011
Talk about the mother of all oxymorons "Republican think tank". Bwahahahahahahahahaha!