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Open Up Presidential Debates to Third-Party Candidates

Posted: 07/30/2012 10:11 am

Before we start, readers need to take a quick three-question quiz. If you do not know the answers, it is okay. Few people do, especially the answers to questions 2 and 3. I had to look them up myself.

  1. How many candidates participated in the three 2008 presidential debates?
  2. How many candidates were on the ballot in the 2008 presidential election?
  3. Who decides which candidates participate in the debates?

Barack Obama (Democrat) and John McCain (Republican) were the only two presidential candidates invited to participate in the 2008 presidential debates. This is because since the 1988 election the presidential debates are organized by nominally independent bodies -- the Commission on Presidential Debates and the Citizens' Debate Commission -- that in reality are collectively controlled by the Democratic and Republican parties. The Democrats and Republicans set the bar for participation in the debates at a minimum 15 percent showing in public opinion polls, which in every election but 1992 has closed third party candidates out of the debates.

Public opinion polls have no legal standing. However, because the Democrats and Republicans with the acquiescence of the media enforce this rule, third party candidates are denied the ability to present alternative ideas to the American people and the public recognition they would need to garner a significant number of votes in an election.

While Obama and McCain were the only candidates invited to participate in the 2008 presidential debates, four other candidates appeared on more than half of the state election ballots including Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party (37 states and/or Washington, D.C.), Bob Barr of the Libertarian Party (45 states and/or Washington, D.C.), Cynthia McKinney of the Green Party (32 states and/or Washington, D.C.), and Ralph Nader, an independent and Peace and Freedom candidate, who appeared on the ballot in 45 states and in Washington, D.C. In addition to these candidates, six other candidates appeared on at least three state ballots and an additional eleven on at least one ballot.

Hofstra University, where I teach social studies education and history hosted a presidential debate in 2008 and will do it again in 2012. Hofstra has made the debates a central focus of curriculum and campus life this summer and fall. Incoming freshman read Tension City by Jim Lehrer, who moderated a number of the past debates, and I was one of the faculty members invited to discuss the debates with them during Freshman Orientation.

Although I did not like the book very much, I love the debate and I am glad it is at Hofstra because it gives me the opportunity to join in the pageantry while expressing my first amendment rights to freedom of speech and assembly. During the 2008 campaign, I was on the O'Reilly Factor discussing the election because I am from Hofstra. Bill O'Reilly called me a loon -- and I am proud of it.

On debate day, I am not going to be in the audience at the Hofstra Arena. Just as I was in 2008, I will be standing at the corner of Hempstead Turnpike and Uniondale Avenue with a picket sign and a t-shirt demanding that the candidates and whomever gets elected president respond to what I consider to be the real needs of the American people. I don't want to shock you, but I will shout out a four-letter word. The biggest need for all of use is J-O-B-S -- JOBS.

As a teacher, I examine the presidential debates with students to introduce them to a number of important questions that all citizens and voters need to consider. For example, if the debates are so important for democracy, why were there no presidential debates in 1964, 1968, and 1972? I think in 1964 and 1972, incumbent presidents did not want to elevate the public stature of their opponents. In 1968, Richard Nixon, still smarting from the 1960 debate with John Kennedy did not want the public to see his five o'clock shadow and beady eyes again.

Another important question is "Whose interests are the debates supposed to serve?" By 1984, while running for reelection, Ronald Reagan may have been suffering from early stages of dementia. Why didn't Walter Mondale or any of the debate moderators was the possibility with the public so the American people could decide whether reelecting Reagan was worth the risk?

In 1992, a Third Party candidate, Ross Perot, appeared on the podium with the Democratic and Republican standard bearers. It was the only time a third party candidate participated in the debates on an equal basis. How democratic is it when the very existence of alternative points of view is denied and third parties are blacked out. I would like to hear what Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate for President has to say. Maybe some of you are interested in other candidates. Why are the Democrats and Republicans afraid to debate them? Why is the media complicit in keeping them off of the air?

It is way past time to democratize the presidential debates and the American voting process. While it would take a constitutional amendment to get rid of the antiquated Electoral College, the debates can be opened up relatively easily. In the 2008 presidential election both Ralph Nader and Bob Barr received over 500,000 popular votes. This could be the vote threshold for a third party's nominee to participate in the next round of presidential debates four years later.

Another possibility, which I think is even more reasonable, is to invite candidates that will appear on more than half of the state ballots to participate in the televised debates. In 2008 this would have meant that Ralph Nader (Independent, Peace and Freedom), Bob Barr (Libertarian), Chuck Baldwin (Constitution/Reform/U.S. Taxpayers), and Cynthia McKinney (Green, Independent, Mountain), would have joined Obama (Democrat), and McCain (Republican), on the podium and the American people would have heard a genuine and heated exchange of ideas about solving the problems facing the country and possibilities for the future of the nation.

The Democratic and Republican Parties do not own the presidential debates or the electoral process. It is past time to open up the debates in the name of genuine democracy.

 
 
 
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Before we start, readers need to take a quick three-question quiz. If you do not know the answers, it is okay. Few people do, especially the answers to questions 2 and 3. I had to look them up myself.
Before we start, readers need to take a quick three-question quiz. If you do not know the answers, it is okay. Few people do, especially the answers to questions 2 and 3. I had to look them up myself.
 
 
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11:54 AM on 09/26/2012
ONLY the third parties can end the cycles of lies and corruption in our government and private sector banking and commodities elites.

The third parties have made major efforts and one major victories in the past, such as women's rights, without winning any elections.

All eligable candidates should be allowed in the debates, let's sign every petition to help that happen, and send those emails, call those pollsters.
09:28 PM on 09/24/2012
Barack obama and Mitt Romney is the only ones trying to become president because maybe no one wanted to try to be elected because they already know that Obama is going to win automatically because he is not trying to change that much like Mitt Romney does. Because president Obama is not going to change food stamps and all help for people like that. But if Mitt Romney is president the world is going to be so different.
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Cornelius F Brantley Jr
08:02 AM on 09/14/2012
Here's the petition to make it happen. It is author by 2 Johnson and 2 Stein supporters: http://www.change.org/petitions/open-up-the-2012-presidential-debates
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Venicelady
Ignorance is NOT bliss.
02:36 AM on 08/29/2012
Definitely agree with you, Mr. Singer.

Throughout U.S. history, there have been a number of formidable third parties and candidates. And, there were a number of parties that have gone out of existence. Why should it be that the Democrats and Republicans are the only game in town? How is that "of the people, for the people, by the people"?

So often, I am told by those that believe ( or have been brainwashed into believing) that a vote for a third party is a "wasted" vote. Not so, in my opinion. If enough people were to vote for candidates other than in the two major parties, perhaps we would have a chance for REAL hope and change in this country, instead of always voting for the "lesser of two evils".

Remember, we get the government we deserve. Don't we deserve better?

That said, I'm casting my vote for Dr. Jill Stein this November. Perhaps those of you that are not happy with either positions/policies of the Democratic or Republican candidates for President might want to check her out.
05:55 AM on 08/26/2012
Very heartily agree!! I just saw a post this past week that said, "I wish we had a third choice!" I COULDN'T BELIEVE MY EYES!!!! This is a travesty!

I just sent a message to Janet Brown at jb@debates.org

We deride other countries when we see inequalities in their elections; why do we not see the inequalities in our own?
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Cornelius F Brantley Jr
06:01 PM on 08/23/2012
New FB page promoting this: http://www.facebook.com/OpenTheDebates
03:58 PM on 08/13/2012
** Write one quick email today! Monday! **

Commission on Public Debates is vulnerable to public pressure - they just announced a woman would moderate a debate this year, although 2 weeks ago they refused to accept a petition from 120,000 high school girls/women demanding the same thing.

Write their Executive Director Janet Brown and demand some method for the public to provide them feedback. At the moment their website does not even have a 'contact us' link. Don't ask for 3rd party participation, yet (that comes later). Just demand some manner for the public they claim to serve to tell the Commission what is on their mind.

jb@debates.org needs 500 emails TODAY!

"The Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) was established in 1987 to ensure that debates, as a permanent part of every general election, provide the best possible information to viewers and listeners. " This is what they claim. Make them live up to it.
11:17 AM on 08/11/2012
Hempstead Turnpike and Uniondale Avenue, demanding for Jobs, count me in!
12:08 AM on 08/06/2012
Gary Johnson deserves to appear in the debates.
03:25 PM on 08/01/2012
The 2party system is worthless. Jill Stein, Gary Johnson, Rocky Anderson are far superior. Will cowards Obama or Romney debate them? Will media quit force feeding us the 2party system charade?

YouTube search:

Insist Obama & Romney Debate 3rd Party Opponents

6 Easy Steps To End The 2-Party System

Top 3 Dumb Excuses To Not Vote 3rd Party
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11:00 AM on 08/01/2012
They didn't have a right to buy them, but they do own them. And it's not time; it's way past time, ir's probably too late. Otherwise yeah, open the debates.
09:27 AM on 08/01/2012
Huffington Post: please host a third party candidate debate with the top three third party candidates and televise it, or post it on youtube. YOU do it! Forget about getting permission from the CDC. You can always include more candidates, that should include some form of acceptance like "being on the ballot in at least three states", or "garnering the next top three spots on opinion polls the CDC are using". That's a step. Why wait for the CDC?
03:26 PM on 08/01/2012
Amen.
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12:58 PM on 08/05/2012
Great Idea.
12:59 AM on 08/01/2012
HEAR, HEAR!! I am a registered Green party member and have voted green for over a decade. Third parties will have an extremely hard time garnering support as long as they're shut out of the debates...and the media, as a whole.
06:16 PM on 07/31/2012
Mr. Singer writes "The Democratic and Republican Parties do not own the presidential debates or the electoral process." But the D & R parties do own the debates, because they own & control the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD). The CPD took over the debates from the League of Women Voters (LWV) in 1988 to keep the debates limited to D & R candidates. From Wikipedia:

||| In 1988, the League of Women Voters withdrew its sponsorship of the presidential debates after the George H.W. Bush and Michael Dukakis campaigns secretly agreed to a "memorandum of understanding" that would decide which candidates could participate in the debates, which individuals would be panelists (and therefore able to ask questions), and the height of the podiums. The League rejected the demands and released a statement saying that they were withdrawing support for the debates because "the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter." ||| (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Presidential_Debates)

The only solution is to win back control of the debates from the Democratic & Republican parties and end the "fraud on the American voter."
01:04 AM on 07/31/2012
Welcome to our fake democracy.