Who Can Beat McCain?
Lotta folks on this site hating Hillary because she's a woman. Lotta folks on this site loving Hillary because she's a woman. Makes me think that, in some quarters, men have been uncomfortable with women a lot longer than whites have been uncomfortable with blacks.
Sometimes I honestly believe that a racist white guy would vote for Obama over anyone like his wife or mother. A woman as Commander-and-Chief? Uh-uh, they say.
How sad.
Lotta folks worried about Obama's level of experience. Whatever you do, don't buy into that Republican bullshit. Obama is FDR compared to this Bush. The GOP committed every possible sin in order to get Bush elected. They forged a whole set of new ones to get him reelected. Everyone around the world recognizes that America is in real trouble. Most Americans do, too.
The past eight years have been the moral low point of the American experience.
I have said in these pages before that either candidate has the potential to make a very good president. Clinton is smart and shrewd in ways that will serve her well in office. I think she would play a Democratic Congress like a violin. Obama will have the great fortune of being able to attract his own version of the "Best and the Brightest", an army of brilliant and capable reform-minded people who would normally abjure political careers as the result of their inherent cynicism.
Who can beat McCain? That is all that matters.
McCain is another right-wing, retro, deficit-loving, never-seen-a-defense-appropriation-I-didn't-like tool. But there are a lot of people in this dumbed-down country that will buy that. They want to turn the clock back. To what, I don't know. Which Democrat will give a critical number of Americans the courage to move forward? This election represents a turning point for this country, not only internally, but regarding our future among the other nations of the world. America will begin to, albeit slowly, irreversibly go down if we do not get this right.
It is wrong to assume that either of these Democrats is less qualified than the other. But Democrats must think like Republicans, now more than ever. Who can win?
You think major GOP fundraisers sat back and clucked over the nomination of Bush in 2000? You must be joking. They held their noses and went along for the ride because Republicans like James Baker and that maniac Richard Mellon Scaife have their hands on the money valve and they anointed Bush. The GOP plays to win. They don't have good candidates all that often, but they don't let that stop them. Everyone digs in and puts their shoulder behind even the lamest nominee.
If you want to advocate for Clinton or Obama, do so in the context of how they will defeat McBush.
PS: One possible consequence of an Obama presidency? Supreme Court Justice Hillary Clinton. Dang, that sounds good.
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Someone says we are smearing Rev. Wright? Smearing? I saw the videos. Yes, Rev. Wright says alot of things. But he also says what these little sound bites show. I would not sit in a church if my pastor felt this way, especially if I was someone who wanted to get into politics due to the love I have for my country. You know very well if this was Clinton's pastor you would be all over it.. McCain is going to kill Obama with Wright in the red states.
BTW I am not a church going person. But it is obvious that most of the states in the USA are. How is Obama ever going to get over what Wright said? The people that watch these 30 second sound bites are your average voters. You've got the wife's comments. His hand not being on his chest.. To people like us, this might not be big issues. But it will be once he is running against McCain. I still cannot forget Kerry being swiftboated and he served in Vietnam while Bush sat home getting high on cocaine. Don't underestimate the impact of Rev. Wright on the red states..
It's amazing how some few Clinton supporters and backward-ass republicants wear their racism on their sleeve when trying to imply the words of Rev. Wright are the somehow words of Senator Obama. The Senator has never himself said any such things, and the churches and religious leaders JohnnyMac panders to have themselves said far worse things about 'their' god punishing OUR country with 9/11 and Katrina, because OUR country tolerates gay people. Desperately keeping the 'Rev. Wright' issue alive, thinking it somehow elevates a lying lobbyists-bought candidate, only displays closed-mindedness. Panicked enough to ignore there's a 'different America' for people of color, shows that deceitful, multi-millionaire, TRULY 'elitist' candidates must desperately grasp ANY straw to keep those minds closed.
It already backfired on 'the Clintons' to play on people's racial fears, so it will backfire on dementia-JohnnyMac should his campaign make race or Rev. Wright 'an issue'. Record numbers of young and white voters already turned out in red states for Senator Obama, NOT 'the Clintons', and will continue to do so BECAUSE idiot campaigners think race is THE issue, and NOT the lobbyists legal-bribery corruption of OUR Government that brought us a geopolitical war for OTHERS' natural resources, AND free trade agreements disastrous for OUR country.
Strap those blinkers on a little tighter and have another glass of kool-aid, the status quo 'establishment' loves voters LIKE YOU. Who needs peripheral vision anyway, heh?
It's not racism...i
And it's not anti-Americanism, either. It's poor judgement.
Obama allowed his children to attend this church week after week. Since we don't know much about Obama based on accomplishment and since he doesn't talk about specific policy issues, we have to find a way to determine whether the man can capably lead the nation.
In the Wright case, most insiders know he went to the church for political gain. But most Americans don't watch that closely and many will not be able to get past the fact that he suscepted his children to this church for a long time. His speech about race, although nice, did not answer questions about his judgement.
"McCain is going to kill Obama with Wright in the red states." - so what?
Red States will vote for McCain - regardless of anything that happens or does not happen.
If you are white - have you ever heard a friend or co-worker use any word that was racist or biased?
Of course you have - we all have regardless of race - did you walk away from your friend and never return their calls and did you immediately report your co-worker and quit the company in disgust if they did not immediately fire the person making the racistreligious, etc... comment?
That is not true. If you look at Martin Lurther King's remarks in his speeches , he goes way beyond what Rev. Wright says. The truth is that there is a lot of hate and racism against african american people. I live in Texas and during the primary I saw middle school children come out of their schools and pass by our CHURCH where we were polling and call Obama the N word. (I am a white 50 yr. old woman by the way)
Where does that type of hate come from? It comes from his parents. They are facist pigs in Texas , especially in the hate filled republican area that I live in. I can't wait to leave this state and it's politics behind me.
A lot of Rev. Wright said like it or not is TRUE, just like Martin Luther King said. I am BITTER about the way this is playing out. I think Obama will win, but I am definitely BITTER and it is not at Obama , it is at Clinton and insider Washington. The part she is very much a part of.
Here's the deal. If every Democrat here who writes, reads or comments on entries will send the Democratic nominee only $20, that's a great start.
We need to out-advertise the GOP, out billboard and poster them, out bumper sticker them and basically smother Walnuts McCain's message at every turn.
McCain is a rageoholic. Exploit that.
McCain called his wife a cunt. Exploit that.
McCain wants a hundred-year war. Exploit that.
Mc Cain hides his unattractive adopted daughter from view. Exploit that.
McCain is 72. Exploit that.
Democrats like Kerry and Gore were far too polite when they ran.
The GOP will do ANYTHING to win.
So must we.
Where's the sound-bite of his remarks to his wife? Just my prurient side emerging.
If you believe that, then send money to moveon.org. They will have no qualms about taking the gloves off. They will also do whatever it takes...
There is a whole website dedicated to exposing the fact the John McCain is hardly a war hero. There is a lot of information on the site which seems well documented. Go to "Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain".
You are correct. Unless the Democrats are willing to think and work as hard as Republicans do to win - the Democrats will once again find themselves asking "How in the world did we lose this race?".
As to who I think could win against McCain - I can see both Obama and Clinton losing to McCain.
Obama's Preacher issue is going to be serious business for those people in the small states that will have the final say on who will be President - and the attack machine will be huge on this issue and I believe it has the potential to be very damaging.
Clinton's negatives and outright lies recently, particularly about Bosnia, will be a huge negative running against a military person.
While being a military veteran is often made fun of and derided on liberal and progressive sites - the people on this site are not really the voters who will decide who becomes President.
The people who will decide who become President live in moderate states, have a favorable impression of people in the military and they may not like Iraq but they also do not want to lose (however they define it).
How can "we"lose? Simple: ask the 1924 Democrats--Harding had died in office before having to face possible impeachment for the corruption of his administration. A Democratic win as sure a thing as you could have had. Scandal? Corruption? President committing adultery? It was all there and STILL the Dems lost--because they self-destructed, big time.
I'm rooting for Obama to win in Pa. Then the pressure to withdraw will be unstoppable for Clinton. And then we can get to the business of taking back the White House and solidfying control of Congress--and look for a QUALIFIED appointee to the USSC.
The current one-two-punch. Settle 'em down and get it on. Unless we want another eight years of chaos. This is Deano's job.
After the way Hillary has behaved in this election, I can't see Obama appointing her to anything if he should get the nomination and award the election.
I have come to think that Hillary's detractors (of whom Scaife used to be one), were correct when they said she would do anything to get elected. I would not trust her to have convictions, let alone the courage of them.
What has been saddest for me about this nomination process is that I used to look back fondly on the Clinton administration. Not so any more. Now I look back and see capital squandered (both the money spent on the investigations as well as political).
For whatever reason, fair or unfair, the Clintons create flashpoints and discord pretty much wherever they go.
Everyone can still come to feel genuine love. The circumstances are compelling enough for that. Great big group hug.
In the beginning of the Democratic primary - white men found it easier to vote for a black man rather than a woman.
Now it is a little different - they are finding it easier to vote for a white woman than a Rev Wright clone. They are not willing to substitute the black preacher man's religion for their own.
I know all the white people supporting Obama think that his religion is superior to the religious right. But the religious left is just as TOXIC.
That in a nutshell is why so many of us hate Hillary and her repuke lite supporters. You twist and manipulate the truth for your own sad short term political ends. The ends justify the means, right? The continual smearing of rev Wright, the "small town slam, Obama is an elitist crap. If you have a brain the size of a house cat, you know these are out and out lies. Doesn't matter. You all just hope the rubes in flyover copuntry are too stupid and lazy to see through the charade until the election is over.
You hope that the people who gat their news in 30 second soundbites will be too lazy to figure it out.
Hillary, with her phony concern is the condescending one. Can't wait for the Compassion debate tonight on CNN. Obama's gonna wipe the floor with her sorry ass.
I am so frustrated with America I don't know what to do. This type of politics is what has gotten us 2 Bush terms. And here we are falling for it again. And this is a religous man, but the way Clinton and the media are spinning this...he looks down on religon. How many Dem's are NRA members? Hillary is touting hershelf as Jessie Jane for Pennsylvan
"Obama's gonna wipe the floor with her sorry ass."
Oh, like he has done up until now?
Is that why she is now 1% AHEAD of Obama in the latest poll?
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If all that matters is who can beat John McCain, then y’all should have given that some serious thought around the time of the Iowa caucuses when the only candidate who could have beat any Republican was forced out of the race...wit
Who’s more qualified.
The question that needs to be pondered now is who either of these two yahoos must convince to be their running mate if they want to entertain thoughts of winning the general. I’ll give you three guesses and the first two don’t count.
And, by the way...y’al
Tom Ridge would be a creep of a veep, what with the warrantless arrest and detention without trial he oversaw at Homeland Security. Are Pennsylvanians really bitter or salty or just tasteless? Rick Santorum might please the G_d and guns crowd even more. Democrats need Pennsylvania and Ohio in November.
True. I recoil at the thought.
Come on, Alec,
You say:
But Democrats must think like Republicans, now more than ever. Who can win?
Are you serious? Shame on you....You don't know that "Republican Thinking" has gotten the entire Country into this shameful Mess?
No, No, No!! If anything of that notion should occur, it should be Americans should teach Republicans to think like Democrats!!
Brick
I think the Clintons are as corrupt as Bush/Cheney, maybe more so. I certainly would not want Hillary appointed a justice on the Supreme Court, an honor that represents the highest degree of trust. Someone who has been proven a liar has no place on the Supreme Court. The country doesn't owe Hillary Clinton anything, even if she thinks we do. And you are wrong about people not wanting a woman president, we just don't want Hillary Clinton. A woman president of grace and good character would be a wonderful thing for our country. But Hillary has neither of these, and her unfavorable rating in the country is as high as GW Bush's, and escalating. Plus, how would you put someone on the Supreme Court who couldn't pass the bar exam in D.C.? Get real!
Love your acting and have agreed with lots of your political analysis in the past. On this article, I would have to disagree. The republicans really do not have to work very hard this time around to get McCain in office. The Democrats have already self-destructed. Hillary Clinton is so power hungry that she is willing to take the party down with her. She and Bill have played the race card, gender card, the lying card, the dirty money, the shady deals with foreign countries, fund raising scams and on and on. It is not because she is a woman that I do not like her-it is because she is the epitomy of everything that is wrong with Washington. She has demonized her opponent to the point that if he were to win-everything she has said will be used against him. The average American voter is easily swayed by propaganda and the Rev. Wright issue will haunt this candidate. Hillary has alienated the black voters and young voters-which are important to the Democratic base. McCain will be our next president and we can thank the Clintons and the lack of strong Democratic leaders that have some balls to stand up tough against the republicans.
What a great idea! Justice Clinton. She might even settle for that. But I like your discujssion about why she would make a great president. I agree, and I hope we have the chance to put her back in the White House, but this time, in charge.
Have you heard the idea that there will not be a clear cut winner between Clinton and Obama and the party will select Gore? That would be an interesting twist. What do all you fine folks think of that?
This is the third time I've commented on your blog,Mr.Ba
What ever made you think that this is an interactive site ? Mr. Baldwin does peruse the posts, but no one expects or requires a response. Why are you so angry, he has never purported himself to be better or more intelligent than anyone else, his blogs do not read as a sermon from the mount. If you wand a blog what is stopping you, there is no shortage of venues out there, that will let you blog to your hearts content, and no one cares or wants to know the social, economic or cultural status of each other, we are content with sharing ideas, in response to the topics Mr. Baldwin puts forth.
I don't think she'd make a good dog catcher.
Very few people would be a good dog catcher.
Nice Post. Nothing really matters if our vote doesn't count.
There should be more talk about voter Fraud. Who cares who leads in the poll, when eventually the GOP is going to steal the votes, ..AGAIN
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...hillary is disliked because of her personality and actions...
Sorry for calling you sexist, last time, Alex. I take it back.
I think the only answer is: Hillary and Obama on one ticket!!!
If Obama is on top, then our country will again be witnessing what we saw in cafeterias all across the country after the OJ verdict was read.
Or what we in Chicago witnessed after we elected our first Black mayor: swarms of southside Blacks drove up to the famous 'Rush Street' area bringing their boom boxes with, playing at full volume. They didn't reach out a hand to us in friendship; they snubbed us as if they were taking over. Practically all the bars ands restuarants closed and it took years to rebuild after Mayor Harold Washington died.
Hillary has to be on top. She won't do the Vice Pres spot, I believe; afterall she already was Vice President for 8 years.
Vice President would be perfect for Obama.
With all the problems the new president will have to clean up after the present administration, this is no time to bring in the "Black Issue" on top of it all.
....hillar
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Sad. Just very sad.
You are a very sad, ugly person MaureenSharkey. I hope you don't have children.
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