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What Do Kids Really Learn from Failure?

Posted: 10/03/2012 2:16 pm

Education experts have long known that there is more to success -- in school or in life -- than cognitive ability. That recognition got a big boost with science writer Dan Goleman's book Emotional Intelligence in 1996, which emphasized the importance of self-awareness, altruism, personal motivation, empathy, and the ability to love and be loved.

But a funny thing has happened to the message since then. When you hear about the limits of IQ these days, it's usually in the context of a conservative narrative that emphasizes not altruism or empathy but something that sounds suspiciously like the Protestant work ethic. More than smarts, we're told, what kids need to succeed is old-fashioned grit and perseverance, self-discipline and will power. The goal is to make sure they'll be able to resist temptation, override their unconstructive impulses, and put off doing what they enjoy in order to grind through whatever they've been told to do. (I examined this issue in an earlier essay called "Why Self-Discipline is Overrated.")

Closely connected to this sensibility is the proposition that children benefit from plenty of bracing experiences with frustration and failure. Ostensibly this will motivate them to try even harder next time and prepare them for the rigors of the unforgiving Real World. However, it's also said that children don't get enough of these experiences because they're overprotected by well-meaning but clueless adults who hover too close and catch them every time they stumble.

This basic story, which has found favor with journalists as well as certain theorists and therapists, seems plausible on its face because some degree of failure is unavoidable and we obviously want our kids to be able to deal with it. On closer inspection, though, I think there are serious problems with both the descriptive and prescriptive claims we're being asked to accept.

Is failure rare? The idea that "kids today" have it too easy is part of a broader conservative worldview that's been around for a long, long time. Children are routinely described as coddled and indulged, overprotected and overpraised. But I've been unable to find any data to support this claim, which may explain why it rests mostly on provocative anecdotes. Even if we could agree on how much protection (or parenting) merits the prefix over-, there's simply no proof that the phenomenon is widespread, much less that it's more common today than it was 10, 20, 50, or 100 years ago.

Moreover, even if it were shown that some parents cushion their children more than you or I think they should, that doesn't mean these kids are unacquainted with frustration or failure. To see life through a child's eyes for even a short time is to realize that, quite apart from a parent's willingness to intervene, children frequently come up short, don't get what they want, and find themselves on the receiving end of critical judgments from their peers or adults.

Is failure useful? A hypothetical child who managed to succeed in every one of his endeavors, or who always got everything he desired, might well find it hard to cope if things suddenly turned sour. But are we entitled to conclude from this fanciful thought experiment that failure is beneficial, or that parents and teachers should deliberately stand back rather than help out?

Research certainly doesn't support the idea that failure or disappointment is constructive in itself. A "BGUTI" (better get used to it) rationale -- the assumption that children are best prepared for unpleasant experiences that may come later by being exposed to a lot of unpleasantness while they're young -- makes no sense from a psychological perspective. We may want kids to rebound from failure, but that doesn't mean it's usually going to happen -- or that the experience of failure makes that desired outcome more likely.

In fact, studies find that when kids fail, they tend to construct an image of themselves as incompetent and even helpless, which leads to more failure. (They also come to prefer easier tasks and lose interest in whatever they're doing.) In one study, students were asked to solve problems that were rigged to ensure failure. Then they were asked to solve problems that were clearly within their capabilities. What happened? Even the latter problems paralyzed them because a spiral of failure had been set into motion. By the same token, if an adult declines to step in and help when kids are frustrated, that doesn't make them more self-sufficient or self-confident: It mostly leaves them feeling less supported, less secure about their own worthiness, and more doubtful about the extent to which the parent or teacher really cares about them.

Have some people experienced failure but then gone on to be wildly successful? Obviously. But things don't work out this way for most people. And even when it does happen, we can't conclude that experience with failure was responsible for the success. (Also, we should be careful to define what we mean by "successful." One can end up rich or famous without being an admirable or psychologically healthy human being.)

What determines the impact of failure? Why do some people throw in the towel as soon as things get tough? Why do other people get back on the horse? (And why are so many of us unable to discuss these issues without resorting to stale metaphors?) To talk about grit and resilience is to focus on the attributes of individuals. But it may make more sense to look at the situations in which people find themselves and the nature of the tasks they're being asked to do.

Challenge -- which carries with it a risk of failure -- is a part of learning. That's not something we'd want to eliminate. But when students who are tripped up by challenges respond by tuning out, acting out, or dropping out, they sometimes do so not because of a deficiency in their makeup (lack of stick-to-itiveness) but because those challenges -- what they were asked to do -- aren't particularly engaging or relevant. Finger-wagging adults who exhort students to "do their best" sometimes don't offer a persuasive reason for why a given task should be done at all, let alone well. And if the rejoinder is that it doesn't matter if the assignment is just busywork because kids need to develop "good work habits" across the board, well, a reasonable person would wonder who stands to benefit when children are taught to work hard at anything that they're assigned to do by someone with more power.

A second explanation for students' not rebounding from failure at what they were asked to do is that they weren't really "asked" to do it -- they were told to do it: deprived of any say about the content or context of the curriculum. People of all ages are more likely to persevere when they have a chance to make decisions about things that affect them. Thus, the absence of choice might be a better explanation than a character defect for giving up.

And here's yet another possibility. Maybe the problem is that the educational environment emphasizes how well students are doing rather than what they're doing: It's all about achievement! performance! results! rigor! and not about the learning itself. Educational psychologists have found that when students are induced to think about grades and test scores -- particularly, though not exclusively, when the point is to do better than everyone else -- they will naturally attempt to avoid unnecessary risks. If the goal is to get an A, then it's rational to pick the easiest possible task. Giving up altogether just takes this response to its logical conclusion. "I'm no good at this, so why bother?" is not an unreasonable response when school is primarily about establishing how good you are.

Jerome Bruner said this: We want students to "experience success and failure not as reward and punishment but as information." That's a marvelous way to think about reframing unsuccessful experiences: My experiment, or my essay, didn't turn out the way I had hoped, and the reason that happened offers valuable clues for how I might take a different approach tomorrow. But this requires us (the adults) to do more than reframe or encourage. We have to address the structural factors that get in the way. For example, a student isn't going to view letter or number grades as informational feedback; they'll be seen as rewards and punishments, in part because that's exactly what they're intended to be.

The problem isn't with kids' attitudes or motivation as much as it is with our practices and policies. Yet potential problems with the latter are typically ignored by people who tell kids to grit their teeth, pull up their socks, and try, try again. Worse, these people may explicitly endorse those problematic practices or even call for more rigorous or competitive grading and testing. Some researchers use them to define success and failure -- with high grades or test scores uncritically accepted as a positive outcome for measuring the effects of grit or perseverance.

Indeed, many people oppose even mild attempts to make the whole grading experience less debilitating, such as eliminating zeroes for individual assignments (given that zeroes, when averaged in with other marks, can drag down a child's overall grade disproportionately). Not long ago, a Canadian teacher became a conservative folk hero for defying his district's no-zero policy. He insisted on his prerogative to punish students by giving them the lowest possible grade.

Those who came to his defense invoked the familiar rhetoric of accountability, high standards, and the need to prepare kids for the real world. But ponder the irony! Many students whom a teacher brands with zeroes already see themselves as failures. They're likely to experience his insistence that they be "held accountable" as yet another dose of humiliation and punishment. (And it's the students' perception, not the teacher's intention, that determines the result.) The idea that another goose egg will snap them out of their cycle of failure and put them on the road to success is, to put it gently, naïve. (On the other hand, some people's get-tough response is actually more moralistic than practical. The point may not have been to produce a better outcome for students at all but to make sure they don't "get away with" something. If you do something bad, something bad must be done to you -- regardless of the effect.)

In short, there's reason to doubt the popular claim that kids have too little experience with failure. Or that more such experience would be good for them. What is clear is that the very environments that play up the importance of doing well make it even less likely that doing poorly will have any beneficial effect.

 

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joebro1060
DFAS is sucking me dry!
10:26 AM on 10/10/2012
Hopefully failure can show you that whatever way you used the first time didn't work. Hopefully it will help you devise a new, better, method to achieve whatever goal you set. Hopefully failure can inspire children to work harder to achieve those hopes and dreams they have.
11:08 PM on 10/08/2012
What do kids learn from failure?

They learn that it feels bad. They learn that when it happens there is no one to blame but themselves. They learn that no one will pick up the pieces for them or buy them a new one. They learn how not to fail like that again.

So they learn about consequences, accountability, self-reliance, and fortitude.

All things considered you stand to learn far more from failing than you do from succeeding.
03:54 PM on 10/05/2012
Should we not compete in the Olympics then?
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ftkl1234
03:49 PM on 10/05/2012
What's really important to learn in life is how to make "failures" and "mistakes" learning opps. Adults and coaches should make this a rule to walk kids through the demoralizing losings they may have and go on wiser and not beaten down. What's also really useful is to know how to offer constructive criticism that starts with saying something positive before talking about negatives.
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jf12
When I saw her I marveled greatly.
10:25 AM on 10/05/2012
The only relevant point to "play up the importance of doing well" is if it's something worth doing well. Kids *already* over-play up the importance of doing well in such pursuits as shooting zombies and piling up bricks in Minecraft. If you want them to see the importance of doing well, give them something important to do.
11:54 PM on 10/04/2012
The pupil who is never required to do what he cannot do, never does what he can do.

– John Stuart Mill
08:45 PM on 10/04/2012
I'm not convinced that adults have ever successfully whitewashed failure out of anyone's childhood. We meet failure the first time our parents sit our diapered little selves down next to another new human. There is no creature as guiltlessly selfish or more apt to use violence as the first resort than a toddler who wants what another toddler has; the lessons come fast,hard and early.

Selfishness is survival of the individual, a basic drive in all living things. But we need the trust of others for the species to survive, so we spin the issue: failure isn't defeat. It's good to take one for the team now and the, for the team's sake. But before a child actually believes this they have to find out the pain is survivable, which is clearly impossible if shielded from it, eh?

This is where good parents go off the rails. Kids aren't stupid, they're lazy. Every kid knows who did best in a game. Regardless of how many get trophies failure is still there. These days, though, it's surrounded by a cloud of helicopter parents doing everything they can to keep their little darlings from feeling the burn.

Declaring everyone the winner doesn't protect our kids from anything but having to do the work it takes to learn how to be good neighbors. It has turned out to be a pretty good self-esteem shield, though, which may explain why people have gotten so selfish lately...

OK. I'm done.

Peace,
AC
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nypoet22
Psychology Ph.D., Civics Teacher, Songwriter
01:47 AM on 10/05/2012
it's not so much that kids need failure per se, it's that they need boundaries. failure to accomplish something, be it academic, athletic or whatever, is a learning experience because it lets individuals know that there are lines outside of which they would be better off not going.
08:52 PM on 10/05/2012
Hello, NYPoet --

I hear what you're saying, and I think we're in agreement, somewhat. But I submit that athletic, academic and other competitions are learning experiences on more levels than the intellectual one you are presenting. Just like horror films let us get to know our fear and allow us to practice managing it in a safe space, games give us a safe way to get to know our primitive drive to survive (our selfishness, eh?) so we can manage it, which is really the only way we can form the social bonds needed to not die off as a species.

I keep going back to my observation about toddlers -- they compete instinctively at a very primitive level, and have not developed enough to understand choices like the ones you present (..better off not crossing...). Cognitive development doesn't displace the primitive drives, it enables our ability to rationalize them. They get ignored or denied instead of understood and managed. Declaring that everybody wins is the parents saying "here... let me do it for you... there. All better?" -- a tacit extension of the selfishness and gratification of babyhood. A far better thing would be to revisit the ideas of good sportsmanship -- stop excessively glorifying the victor and start honoring the practice of restraint in competition.

Thanks for the thoughtful response -- I enjoy being provoked to think

AC
03:34 PM on 10/04/2012
I appreciate Kohn's comments, but I have always thought that allowing my kids to fail meant something different than what he's talking about. I let them try things that may be too hard for them (if they're interested and asking to do so), I let them play sports and board games where they sometimes lose, etc. Learning any new skill involves failure of a sort -- most people can't do most things well when they first try, so I help them figure out how to succeed, but allow them to do much on their own.

All that said, I heartily agree that letting kids fail, as in letting them get Fs on report cards, isn't necessarily teaching anyone anything. The current punish-and-reward model of most educational systems (and much parenting, sadly) doesn't seem to serve most children.

Returning to my first point: it's good for kids to do things that are hard, to do them poorly, and then figure out how to do them well. It's okay for them to get beaten at chess or soccer by a strong opponent, or try out for a part in a musical that they might not get. That's the sort of failure that seems healthy to me.
12:36 PM on 10/05/2012
Yes, but the key is that your child is motivated and interested in challenging themselves to do these things. That's what Alfie speaks of...demanding a kid attempts something he's either doomed to fail at (without help) and/or not interested in, does not lead to a drive for success. Learning any new skill will likely involve some failure. But if the intrinsic drive is there, those failures are just learning experiences.
11:00 PM on 10/17/2012
I agree with your comments, and with Kohn's assertion that dooming kids to fail, or forcing them to jump through hoops in a system of punishments-and-rewards, isn't useful.
02:39 PM on 10/04/2012
A very useful discussion. If a job isn't worth doing, it's not worth doing well. Kids are pretty good at figuring this out all on their own - and if it appears that an adult doesn't understand this, the adult's credibility on almost every issue takes a nosedive. Being honest with children is the best thing that we can do for our relationships with them. And if you lose your reputation for honesty with children (or young adults, or even almost anyone), then you'll have an almost impossible task to recover it.
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01:38 PM on 10/04/2012
Most of our schools are still trying to turn out well behaved blue collar factory workers in an

age where those skills are no longer in demand.

The future demands self-actualized, creative, innovative workers.
01:23 PM on 10/04/2012
Not" Whats IT All About Alfie."
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Jasmine Adamson
12:54 PM on 10/04/2012
This article highlights the real root problem with education today... kids are not all the same!

Some kids, like me, have a greater sense of pride when we accomplish something that was hard, particularly if we failed at it the first time we tried. I learned early on that prior failure makes success all the more sweet, and that did not convince me that I was a failure - it turned me into a scientist. Some kids are not like that, but some are, so if you apply your policy across the board, it's going to hurt some kids and help others. I believe this is the root problem in education today - we do not have enough individual attention, to the point where we even deny the existence of differences between kids. WE MUST FIX THIS!

Kids at both ends of the bell curve are not being served by our education system - they are being hurt by it. The smart kids are being dragged down to "average" and they aren't challenged or motivated by their studies, and the dumber kids are being promoted based on age instead of ability, so they're always behind.
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12:32 PM on 10/04/2012
Failure as in high stakes testing is punitive by nature and thus detrimental for learning (for various reasons, self-concept included). However, "failure" (in formal education to meet the standards) as an opportunity to try again is beneficial for learning, because it communicates about learning process being supported by the assessment system. So, my question is: why don't we have more of the non-punitive assessments that would provide feedback for students about their learning and support their growth as learners?
curmugin
You kids stay off my lawn.
11:28 AM on 10/04/2012
Kids don't see frustration and/or "failure" as adults do.
Kids are not small adults.
Kids learn like children.
Much of what is considered learned behavior, including attitides and ability to persevere in the face of adversity and mood, was long ago shown to be inborn and not very susceptable to environment.
People should lighten up and pay attention to the writer's statement to the effect that it is less the kids attitudes and more the adults ridgid practices and policies.
People, children included, rarely bounce back from traumatic failure to perform at their original level. Again this is old information, but it has never been refuted, just denied. And for a kid traumatic failure is often ignored by adults who tell them to BGUTI. "Experts" who want research to back it up or refute this, look it up. EBSCOHOST is available to all these days. Use it.
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Richard Genco
10:57 AM on 10/04/2012
Philly Student Told to Lose Romney T-Shirt or Get Out
What do education experts do about the political bias in schools?
12:32 PM on 10/04/2012
Are you implying that he would have been allowed to wear an Obama shirt? I doubt it.
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Richard Genco
06:03 PM on 10/04/2012
Wish I could bet on it