Allison Kilkenny

Allison Kilkenny

Posted: March 27, 2008 09:00 PM

Beyond November

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Clinton and Obama supporters have been slugging it out for months, and the hounds are now snapping at Hillary's heels. Chris Dodd has publicly declared that this race must end.

Indeed, it must end if the Democratic nominee is to stand a chance against a thoroughly refreshed (and feisty) John McCain. The longer the brawling between Clinton and Obama goes on, the longer the mainstream press ignores McCain, the very thing he needs in order to survive a general election.

The in-party bickering is myopic and petty. Beyond Obama's Reverend Wright and Clinton's version of her Bosnia trip are the very real problems in the Democratic Party, and the larger problems of America's economy, the Iraq war, and the Iran diplomatic crisis.

Both Clinton and Obama have been vague about private mercenary companies like Blackwater. This presents a troubling issue. Even if troops are brought home "on day one," will a shadow war continue? If private mercenaries are also brought home, who will stay to guard the huge U.S. embassy in Iraq? Clinton and Obama have cornered themselves on this issue.

Then there's universal health care, the mirage in America's endless political desert. It seems like we've been promised health coverage forever, and the Clintons blundered the first real chance we had at implementation when they pursued the gritty details for too long, too secretively.

Such a huge policy shift will need massive public support, and the first step toward securing that is a strategically sound battle plan, including a ten-point plan (made digestible for memorization by every farmer, housewife, and child in America,) and a single Democratic candidate leading the charge toward Congress.

Oh, but first, Democrats need to decide between Clinton and Obama.

Better hurry.

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- milo9 I'm a Fan of milo9 11 fans permalink
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Kilkenny, I suggest a ten point program to expand the anti-status quo forces that are represented on progressive blogs. Clinton is a corporate dem and Obama is a ...tabula rosa. Hope for the best prepare for the worst.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 03/28/2008

ABC’s Jake Tapper reported on an unnamed Democratic Party official saying that it's not a question of *if* Clinton can somehow secure the nomination. The question is -- what will she have to do in order to achieve it? The official's answer: She will have to "break his back," to destroy Obama and make him completely unacceptable. "Her securing the nomination is certainly possible - but it will require exercising the 'Tonya Harding option.'" the official said. Read full story here - http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/dnc-official-cl.html).

As the Clinton campaign spins Obama as actually being the reprehensibly negative player in this competition, and the media swallowing and regurgitating the most incendiary non-issues, (consider today's self-righteous "all I know is that if it were me personally, I would have left that church), I fear for the future of Obama's campaign, of the Democratic party, and the United States. I'm afraid we can't take another two months of the destructive Clinton ambition machine. Please contact the Democratic National Committee http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contactissuess) and let the party leaders no that we can't waste any more time; the train is nearing the bridge that's out, and it takes a lot to stop that kind of fateful momentum. Super delegates must decide *now*, not in August, to swing behind the best candidate in our generation so that the Democratic Party can look forward to the general election in November and beyond.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 03/28/2008
- nazgul I'm a Fan of nazgul 10 fans permalink

We have decided between Obama and Hillary. Like the Bush administration, no one in her inner circle wants to give her the bad news and, like Bush, she doesn't want to hear it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 03/28/2008
- hhkeller I'm a Fan of hhkeller 2 fans permalink

Vague rhetoric lasted too long. Which ever candidate un-does the NCLB Act wins my vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 03/28/2008

The Democrates have decided it is just that Hillary does not have the grace to accept that decision.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 03/28/2008

Yes, Americas economy and the mortgage foreclosure crisis.

It's important we pick a candidate who would fix those real problems, not just use:..."'triangulation,' the wobbling attempt to find the middle of the road that has somehow managed to pass for a philosophy with many Democrats for over two decades."
http://www.progressivehistorians.com/2007/11/bill-clintons-role-in-mortgage-crisis.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 03/28/2008

Allison: What you talken about? McCain could screw this thing up, easily, even with an eight year headstart on a 4 month race. Put him on a couple of "debates" (something he has proven time and again is his worst format) and watch his candiudacy melt in the glare of the T.V. cameras.

McCain has always done best when folks hear about him, rather than from him. In the General, he won't have any place to hide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 03/27/2008
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 135 fans permalink
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GOD I hope so!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 AM on 03/28/2008

Dude..aren't there still quite a few states left to vote? What do you say to them? You want to talk "disenfranchised"...please..some people are awfully arrongant to think that just because THEY have voted and caucused that it's now all done. Seems a little inconsistent for folks to scream "it's the popular vote that counts" and then say that the process should end early before everyone HAS voted! I really don't understand that coming from the same people...? Anyway..anyone who thinks that politics and change happens quickly is...well, showing their youth and naivety. Be patient...there is a system in place..let it work. In the meantime..be smart, listen carefully to what the candidates are saying..not the "Britney Spears" style of media spinning and goading..THAT is what we should all be upset about. It's paparazzi meets politics! That is what is causing this riff. The party WILL BE FINE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 03/27/2008
- Thatcher I'm a Fan of Thatcher 7 fans permalink

look at history:

2004 - Kerry secures after Edwards withdraws after Super Tuesday

2000 - Gore secures after Bradley withdraws after Super Tuesday

2000 - Bush secures after McCain withdraws after Super Tuesday

1996 - Dole essentially was given the nomination by mid-March

1992 - Even though Clinton "campaigned" into June - after winning NY primaries in April - he was the presumptive nominee and Brown was rebuked and treated as a spoiler

1988 - Dukakis was dubbed the front-runner after Super Tuesday and his opponents continued to withdraw until only Jackson remained (where he was considered a spoiler)

1988 - Bush's organizational strength and fundraising lead after Super Tuesday (sound familiar?) gave him the front runner status and opponents dropped out shortly thereafter

1984 - Mondale and Hart went down to the wire on June 5, when Mondale was only 40 delegates short of the nomination (and leading Hart) ... and eventually became the nominee

1980 - Carter and Kennedy battle it out at the convention - even though Carter had the substantial lead.

1980 - Reagan had a lock on the nomination early in the primary cycle

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 03/28/2008

Look, I don't have to tell you that the participation at this level is unprecedented. I truly believe that it would leave a bad taste in the mouths of the voters that have not yet voted in their respective states to not hear them out....throw around your stats and refuse to see my point if you want..but I think many of you are acting as if some decision is not made today..you will explode. There is a system in place..the race is very close...freakin be patient. The party is fine...this is healthy political discourse...the longer it goes on the better..after this it will be nothing but partisan politics....don't let the "Extra Extra" style of reporting get you so trigger happy...don't believe that there won't be harmony...the democrats are a loyal bunch..YOU may threaten to switch parties..but THESE guys will come together eventually..when it's time..this is NOT the general election...this is the process to determine a democratic candidate..chill ya'll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 03/28/2008
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 135 fans permalink
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No, you're wrong. First look at what Thatcher has said about the past several primary seasons. Second, this particular race is disastrous for the Democratic party since Hillary is running as dirty a race as I've ever seen on the Democratic side....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 AM on 03/28/2008

With Senator Clinton spending millions each week for a contest that she cannot possibly win -- the numbers just aren't there -- she is revealing herself to be as fiscally responsible as Mr. Bush, who keeps pouring money into Iraq, another no-win situation.

We need a clean break from those politicians who are so ready to spend money from others that was given in good faith, whether those "donors" were contributors to what seemed, for a time, like a viable campaign or taxpayers who have reason to demand and expect a more responsible form of government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 03/27/2008
- RumiSouth I'm a Fan of RumiSouth 34 fans permalink
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On the other hand, we'll have the full measure of the Democratic candidate, and there won't be anything new left to say about them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 03/27/2008
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 135 fans permalink
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That's about the only good thing about this race! That and the fact that the only thing that they've really found on Obama is Rev Wright, which means that there's really not much dirt there!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 AM on 03/28/2008
- TheKiddy I'm a Fan of TheKiddy 6 fans permalink

where is john edwards when you need him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 03/27/2008
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 135 fans permalink
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I'd prefer Al Gore......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 AM on 03/28/2008
- Thorn I'm a Fan of Thorn 7 fans permalink

After the ugly fight for the Democratic nomination, there's this other thing called the general election. So this isn't all about Obama and Clinton. FYI.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 03/27/2008
- klmebane I'm a Fan of klmebane 19 fans permalink
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i believe her point is that with the petty cat-fighting within the democratic party the focus isn't on how to beat mccain. hillary is doing her damnedest to to ensure that if she doesn't get the nomination obama won't win the election because she's throwing around useless dirt that the republican noise machine will manipulate into something bigger than it is. then they will use it to get republican voters out to vote against their own interests some more. if we don't get a nominee soon they won't win the general election anyway. we need to focus on exposing mccain for what he is, and we can't do that if we are too focused on in-fighting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 03/27/2008
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 135 fans permalink
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Um, first, we need to consider that come the General Election McBush really doesn't have much, which would suggest that if people can get over themselves, we'll have a Democratic President (provided that we don't have people voting AGAINST whoever the democratic nominee, which equals a vote for McBush!) Second, since this is a progressive blog, we need to consider how the progressive candidates will handle issues IF they become the President!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 AM on 03/28/2008
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