Des Moines Inner City Voters: "Candidates Don't Come Into The Hood"

Posted December 31, 2007 | 11:29 AM (EST)



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It seems rare to find a group of nine people anywhere in Iowa a week before the caucuses who hasn't seen any presidential candidates at all, even in passing, even by accident as they gladhand through a Starbucks or a Hy-Vee supermarket.

But all nine young people settled around a table munching pizza and talking politics at Urban Dreams, a social service organization serving Des Moines' inner city, don't care that they missed out on photo ops. The gathered group makes the point as Ryan Ford, executive editor of The Source and son of Urban Dreams' founder puts it, "Iowa isn't all white people." Too many politicians he notes, "breeze through town, shake hands and then they leave this community with the same problems."

What kind of problems? Iowa's black population, which hovers around 2%, accounts for approximately 24% of the prison population meaning Iowa has the highest rate of incarceration of African-Americans in the country. According to the 2000 census, black households in Iowa have median incomes 36.8% less than the overall median income. And, says Ford, Iowa has the highest rate for expulsions and suspensions of African-American students in the nation.

Only one of the nine young people present was planning on caucusing (three were not of voting age) and only two said they had heard the term before. Kaley Burriola Rivera, an 18 year-old Mexican student and the lone caucuser, said she supports John Edwards because of his stance on immigration reform. The others had a hard time picking out an individual issue that they cared about or a candidate whose stance they could describe, though several mentioned access to post-high school educational opportunities. As shoulders shrugged around the room, some said, "I just don't pay attention."

McKenna Snowden, 16, said her disinterest stemmed from her belief that the candidates were just as disinterested in her. "Obama, Clinton or whoever, they're not worried about us in the hood. They just care about boojy white and black people and I know nothing is going to change for us." She went on, "Maybe I'd vote for someone if they came from the streets, like they had been to jail and had a hard time getting a job. Someone who can look at me and see me and care about whether I make it. Maybe then I'd vote."

When asked where they would take the presidential candidates if given the opportunity, the group quickly settle on Oakridge, a public housing project that several of them live in or near. Discussing whether or not to bring the candidates to a big house party in Oakridge, Darrius Armstrong, 16, points out "the candidates probably wouldn't want to be there even if we're all acting polite and talking proper. They might hear some stuff they just don't want to hear. Oh, and they probably wouldn't even get recognized." McKenna describes Oakridge as a "fake project.," almost apologizing that it wasn't nearly as crime ridden as other housing projects but, the group assures me, we would see "strippers and drugs." "Our hood ain't like a hood in Chicago, but it's the ghetto of Iowa."

Some of the group seem genuinely frustrated and repelled by the political process and acknowledge their lack of basic understanding on key issues and the tools that they need to participate in the process. They started to ask questions: "Can felons run for president?" "What is a blog?" Terrence Bess, 17, wondered "why would we go into Iraq and destroy all of it just so that we have to rebuild it again?" Another asked, "Why do we feed kids all over the world? Let's feed kids in America first." Cynical about civic engagement and the gains that could be achieved through playing by the rules, all expressed a sense that they were living on the edge - some already had children, struggled with food stamps, faced housing crises and worked multiple jobs.

As Ford pointed out "these kids just don't think they have the power to get what they want." When asked if there was any possibility for change in their community, either within or outside of the conventional political system, all agreed it was possible but none could come up with any concrete examples or ideas for how change could come to pass.

When asked where they saw themselves in fifteen years a string of aspirations were listed: a pro-football running back, a pro-football quarterback, nurse, photography business owner, nurse, lawyer, zoologist. Some were already actively pursuing their career paths.

With the pizza almost polished off, McKenna hesitated before saying, "You know, I really didn't wanna come here today to talk to you guys but you got me hyped up. Maybe you can prove to me that I'm wrong about this stuff. I mean, I've always liked animals a lot so I thought zoology but maybe I should do politics. I have some strong beliefs. I guess I gotta go to college."

The Urban Dreams meeting was made possible by the Black and Brown Forum.

 
 

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When you live with no money, all you think about is getting survival money........EVERYTHING else is off the radar.
Try living like these kids for 7 days. and while you're so concerned about their plight, explain to them why they are suppose to feel good about illegal immigrants taking the few jobs available to the 'disadvantaged'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 01/01/2008

Iowa has a hood?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 AM on 01/01/2008

Elena, I live in the "South of Grand" neighborhood of Des Moines and have attended many events where the politicians have been in attendance at homes. However, after reading your post today I discovered that nine middle school children from the area all claimed no politicians had visited the neighborhood.

My point is, I am very familiar with the Oakridge Neighborhood and know that they have a very politically active neighborhood association. I also know that many of the campaigns have gone to the neighborhood to register voters and that many of the residents have attended political forums.

Maybe you should have spoken with adults instead of kids to get the real insight as to what is going on in the Oakridge neighborhood.

Maybe you should have spoken with adults instead of kids to get the real insite as to what is going on in the Oakridge neighborhood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 12/31/2007

I shudder to think that these kids will soon be able to vote (other than the estimable Ms. Rivera, the lone caucuser). I am pretty sure that they would have to be working overtime to tune out the nonstop messaging of their teachers, their preachers or other leaders in the community, and the media, because for months in Iowa there has been no other story, just the CAUCUS. The candidates have been swarming all over Iowa, so if indeed these kids had wanted to see any of the candidates they could have easily done so. Their lack of interest is the problem, not the candidates not going out to visit them. Did they want a home visit or something? The candidates have been in the school cafeterias, church basements, you name it...and Des Moines is their home base. The fact that only one plans to caucus shows that they are not exactly a "rich target" in terms of political support! You would think they would have tried to see Obama, especially, but also Hillary, another historic candidate, or for that matter Edwards, who speaks to the issues that are keeping them down...lack of corporate responsibility for all but this country's elites.

I'm mostly disappointed that this reporter couldn't have found a better group of black and brown students to represent our state. They are here--I've taught some of them--but they were mostly not in this room.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 12/31/2007

Does anyone, even with the paucity of actual quotes, attempt to listen to what they are saying?
No, because it is so much easier to suggest that they are "whining". If not that, "accepted failure" or some other nonsense.
What is a ghetto. A neighborhood that has been redlined by banks and insurance companies. What does that mean? Nothing to invest, nothing to protect.
In every curse, though, lies a blessing. You won't ever have to compete with these children. You may bestow that upon your children. You have written them off, "whiners", and you have consigned them to a future of prison or eternal poverty.
You will pay for them anyway.
Before, you had laws that insured that Black youth would never compete on an equal footing.
Now it is just custom.
You should really stop whining yourself. It isn't as though you care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 12/31/2007

More victims paraded before us in the ongoing "Victimization of America." If these kids weren"t programmed to accept their expected failure (expected by the liberal educators and their race baiting leaders) and blame everyone else, things might be different. Democrats have had the inner city and public education monopoly for decades and have proven again and again their give-away programs do not work. Dependence based programs perpetuate dependency. And these "Victimizers" must continue to promulgate social losers and dependency otherwise they will be out of business. Inner city success and independence spell doom for the Federal Victimizer giveaway programs. These programs would suffer through shrinking rolls result is lower annual budgets and loss of job security.

It"s time to try a different approach. How about empowering parents, students and even teachers. School choice will instill enough competition for federal funds, and the ineffective educators will be weeded out. The same with Federal giveaway programs. If people have a path to success and a program that encourages it, everyone benefits. And the Federal Administrator needs a positive program incentive as well. A bonus program for these Federal employees right up to the top could be structured in a way to help people at first, next provide programs to allow the participants to help themselves, finally giving way to graduation or movement to the next self-help program. Some examples might be higher education, job training, better housing as well as home ownership. The sky"s the limit folks. It"s amazing the results when people are provided mentors, guidance and encouragement, and the usual roadblocks and barriers are removed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 12/31/2007

I have to say he may or may not be a whinner. The point is that most of the inner city kids and adults have no hope for an improvement in their lives. I see the lack of hope here in North Carolina and Southern Virginia. I worry for my future and I am middle income here in the South, even on a disability income. Lets create some infrastructure jobs so the poor will have a chance to improve their lives. It worked in the past and will help raise the quality of life for perhaps many poor people. It would most likely line the pockets of the rich also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 12/31/2007

Wow...

Honestly, I don't know much about Iowa and I did not know how many African-Americans lived there. It would be interesting if we got to see some other style of campaigning in the "inner city" areas of Iowa. One thing that always bothered me was that Iowa and NH have a little black population and thus many issues that affect those people won't get discussed by people who want to be president. Not saying that all of us are in the inner city and poor, but with those crime stats it is imporatant to discuss the problems they have there

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 12/31/2007

Ryan Ford is a whiner and attention-seeker just like his father. Nine kids sitting around a table complaining that no one is paying attention to them. All they had to do was get off their butts and go to any of the many events the candidates have held in or near their neighborhood. Des Moines is a small town - I'm sure they know how to get downtown or North High School as easily as they can get to the one of the shopping malls. How embarassing for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 12/31/2007
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