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Read and Report On Leaked Clinton Campaign Docs


Joshua Green, a senior editor at the Atlantic, invites OffTheBus members to dig through memos and emails leaked by some of Senator Hillary Clinton's senior staffers. In his most recent piece, "The Front-Runner's Fall," Green provides a chronology of Clinton campaign mishaps and debates, all set in a memoranda backdrop. Here, Green dishes on how his story came into being and appeals for your help:

Earlier this summer, the Atlantic set out to examine exactly why Hillary Clinton's campaign fell apart. Two years ago, Clinton was considered all but inevitable -- she would win the Democratic nomination and probably the presidency. The epic nature of her campaign's collapse was something we felt had not been satisfactorily explained. I spent the last few months interviewing current and former Clinton staffers and outside consultants with a goal of trying to elicit anything that would provide a contemporaneous account of what happened and what they were thinking and saying to each other -- I asked for memos, emails, letters, even diary entries if they'd share them. The result was an unprecedented leak of very senior-level internal documents.


The thought behind the piece was to take the great stuff we'd been leaked and use it in the most innovative way we could find. In addition to our heavyweight lineup of bloggers and web video, we've been giving a lot of thought to how best to present pieces from the magazine on our website in ways that take full advantage of the platform and the readership. I've long been a fan of sites like 'OffTheBus' and 'TPM Document Dump' and 'Smoking Gun,' so I thought it would be cool to scan and post the campaign's internal documents in an easily browse-able format. The idea is to throw open the reporter's notebook, as it were, and let readers see the primary materials for themselves. Let them make up their own minds about what happened to the Clinton campaign and who is to blame. Of course, I'm not looking to put myself out of work here, so there's also an accompanying magazine piece that lends a broader context, includes additional reporting, and links to the relevant materials. I hope people will read it. But if you'd rather not settle for a writer's interpretation of what is or is not important, you don't have to. You can click through the materials in chronological order and see the campaign unfold that way. This was essentially the Mt. Vesuvius of campaign leaks: there's tons more stuff than could ever fit into a single magazine piece, and we fully expect that readers and bloggers will find all kinds of stuff buried in these memos and emails and help advance the story.

~~ Joshua Green

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Joshua Green, a senior editor at the Atlantic, invites OffTheBus members to dig through memos and emails leaked by some of Senator Hillary Clinton's senior staffers. In his most recent piece, "The Fro...
Joshua Green, a senior editor at the Atlantic, invites OffTheBus members to dig through memos and emails leaked by some of Senator Hillary Clinton's senior staffers. In his most recent piece, "The Fro...
 
 
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castlerider
"A man's home is his castle"
09:37 AM on 08/21/2008
Many are wondering why we're even talking about this....

I believe in a historically critical context, it's important to purvey....
Nothing's pulling my focus off Obama's win, so, no problem, here.

Right off the bat, I can see that Mark Penn shrouded Clinton's campaign with an obnoxious supremacy that ill served her. His thinking he had it all figured out, was in a way commendable, but actually, without an impenetrable, resilient staff, was naive at best.

Any feelings they had it all figured out was poison because it detracted Hillary from building a roots campaign, as many've said, from the bottom up. Had Hillary established herself with total progressives, this would have taken place naturally. She would've had to apologize for her vote on the Iraq war, which was never really such a big deal, after all. She would've naturally assumed places with other WOMEN in the news like Arianna, Amy Goodman, - the roots format would have begun to gell on its own, having a flexibility that would've made things a lot easier for her staff and everyone to get along.

A lot of the "rigidity" formatted in her campaign which denied her this flexibility was because of too much made of this being about Hillary. Hill should have avoided that like the plague, and instead, always, make this about the American people. Negativity actually hurt her more then anything, at that stage. She was always my favorite until she started attacking Obama, which I felt was scurrilously beneath
06:55 PM on 08/16/2008
I'm sick of her and her debts. As an Obama supporter, and a Republican, I don't see why we should get her out of debt. And why is everyone talking about her? This is crazy. I didn't see John Kerry crying because he lost, or many of the other candidates who have lost. I wonder if such graciousness would have been accorded Senator Obama if he had lost? I doubt it. Those of us who support Obama, if he had lost and had ended up with debt, we would be raising money for him, not begging from somebody else to bail us out. Go away sore losers.
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Kwaayesnama
09:06 PM on 08/15/2008
Show your love…..
We all know Hillary has those 18,000,000 supporters that LOVE her to death. So please help her by showing your love...
This is my challenge to Clinton supporters...
If you like Hillary please send her $1 this month...
If you really loved her please send her $5….
If you really - really - really loved her send her $10...
And all of you McCain supporters that are thankful to the bitter Clinton supporters please send her $100, you could afford it much more then the poor uneducated, white, bitter Clinton followers...
By next month all eighteen plus million of you will pay off her debt and we will not have to listen to her begging anymore...
This will also be an indicator of how many people truly care about the Clintons...
08:37 PM on 08/17/2008
great blog; should let Hillary know there is a way, .........
07:49 PM on 08/15/2008
I DIDN'T READ ANY MEMOS, JUST THE STORIES ABOUT THEM BY SOMEONE ELSE, NOT THE GENUINE MEMOS...I HAVE MY OWN OPINIONS ABOUT HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN AND ALL THE NOCIVE PROPAGANDA DONE BY THE MEDIA...HILLARY IS THE BEST!
02:36 PM on 08/16/2008
And they call Obama supporters fanatics? To admit you didn't read the intriguing memos is to admit blind, thoughtless loyalty. There is nothing to be afraid of in the memos. They are a fascinating account of a brilliant woman who was caught among campaign operations characterized by disloyalty, dissension, and debt. Nothing to fear here as propaganda. Fascinating history not to be missed for serious observers of the 2008 election.
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kellygrrrl
06:57 PM on 08/15/2008
why are we still discussing this?

Stop the Drama!

0bama 08!
10:58 AM on 08/15/2008
And once again we are wasting time on Hillary, blabbering on about a candidate that no longer exists, and feeding the msm, oh thats right, you are the msm without the integrity to say so, stories about how democrats hate each other. How about you do a piece on something pertinant to the coming GE? Leave campaign archiology for after the deed is done. It is unseemly to do an autopsy before the patient has died!
11:52 PM on 08/14/2008
HRC's campaign emails are VERY telling; it ought to be crystal clear that her campaign was in deep doo-doo long before anyone doubted her veracity or called her on faux claims. The charges of the MSM treating her badly, the nonsense about sexism etc, just muddy the water further, un-necessarily. No one dished out to Hillary anything that she hadn't likewise cooked up herself.
What concerns me is not the post-mortem on her campaign, but the abyss-like division between Dems . I'm ashamed of the slurs and barbs thrown around between party members here on HuffPo, never mind the broader national scale.
The thing is done, people. Get the hell over it: move on; we have much bigger fish to fry. We have REAL worries, like keeping the Republicans out of the White House and rescuing our nation from the economic tailspin we're whirling downward in. Who gives a rat's ass if they read her name on the ballot at the DNC ? They want to make noise, let 'em. Take it with a measure of grace; get about the business of supporting our candidate. If Clinton supporters are nursing a case of sour grapes, too bad. Now's the time for genuine unity; it's inappropriate to attempt to further the agenda of the losing candidate. She oughta have enough class/ concern for the nation to ask her supporters to throw their weight behind Obama, but if she can't manage it, we're still going forward. Deal with it.
05:02 PM on 08/14/2008
chriso, the facts are, hillary lost because of bad management ,bad accounting, bad advice, and seeking to change the rules after agreeing to them. she lied about events, she was unfair to obama ,he was very patient with her, then she injected , "its because im a woman" into the race,no none likes a victim mentality especially in a president , she blames everyone for her loss, her husband didnt help her case, she fought well but only when her back was to the wall, if she hadnt presumed she had won before the contest, she might have had a chance ,never underestimate your opponent, not when it was someone as brilliant as obama ,and an excellent campaign team behind him, the DNC had all the facts and bent over backwards to appease hillary. chriso you say obama supporters are hateful toward hillary then say obamas ran a slimy race based campaign, hillary did not campaign for him ,she did not even congratulate him ,did not concede and so called held on to her delegates, (she dosnt own them ) and now wants to spoil the convention which should be a celebration for demograts not an agenda for the clintons and sour grapes supporters, move on people obama is the nomminee not the clintons.
10:32 PM on 08/14/2008
Tigs, well-said - grammar, syntax, and run on sentences forgiven :). I agree completely. Barack has been a gentleman, and I'm really tired of hearing how he played the race card. He never did, even when he well could have. But oh did Hillary use every bit of the gender card she could in every way possible. She blew it and needs to grow up, take her licks, and allow the convention to go off without a hitch. Enough already. I would have voted for her if she'd been the nominee even though I love Obama and see him as the true inspirational once-in-a-generation leader he is. The loquaciousness and ferociousness of some of these die-hard Hillary supporters is just plain sad. And this is coming from me, a full blown, lifetime, ardent, bleeding heart feminist who's marched in more marches for women's rights than you can imagine.
11:42 PM on 08/14/2008
you are right marirose , i get so mad at the clintons my one finger typing gets in the way of my brain , but its good fun HEH !
10:24 AM on 08/15/2008
Kudos to tigs and marirose: clear, concise and accurate identification of all of the trouble spots in this campaign. The early assumption of entitlement was a major miscalculation on the part of the candidate. Her bruised feelings were more blatantly displayed than those of a wounded toddler. The emotional immaturity convinced most people of her inability to lead without prejudice and tantrum. When one contrasts the maturity of Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton, it is obvious that age does not hold the trumps. There must have been some major promises made to her behind the scenes to produce the air of entitlement so prominent in her campaign. At this point we should be very cautious and guarded about what kind of mischief will be created at the convention on her behalf. May we not turn this event into a coup.
01:16 PM on 08/14/2008
A a former Clinton supporter, I am trying so hard to vote for Obama, but his supporters as in this case are still as stupid and arrogant as ever. If you continue to put your energy in such a negative endeavor and continue putting Clinton down you are wasting your time and again, I do not want to vote for anyone with backers like the ones he has. On the other hand I do not want to vote for people who use Carl Rove to do anything. If all the supporters would keep their mouths shut and stop putting all that nastiness out, it would give us a chance to react to the candidates and not their unfortunate followers.
02:38 PM on 08/14/2008
Then by all means please get the backers of Clinton who cannot get over the loss not to create a distraction at the convention.
02:56 PM on 08/14/2008
You have a choice - vote for Obama or for McCain. Voting for Obama's "supporters" is not one of the options.

I started out as a Clinton supporter. I was turned off by the arrogance, disarray, etc. If the tables were turned and Obama had lost, I would have voted for Clinton (despite many misgivings) because I have a son and a daughter. I don't want my son to go to a stupid war of McCain's making, and I want my daughter to have choices in life - be it birth control or abortion. It's as simple as that.
01:01 PM on 08/14/2008
It is time for all of us who believe that the Clintons are detrimental to the Democratic Party to shut them and their supporters out. Do not read about them, do not watch them on television, do not listen to them on the radio, do not comment on blogs about them. They and their supporters feed on frenzy, be it negative or positive. Why help them? Can you imagine the blogs if there were no Clinton detractors on them? Whatever will their supporters do? If you must vent, let the party and its officials know that you will no longer pay any attention to the Clintons or the venues which feature them. It is time we took back the Democratic Party from the Clintons and the DLC. It is time we used all of our energy positively to get Obama and local worthy Democratic candidates elected.
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02:25 PM on 08/14/2008
Shut them out? How very democratic of you.

Here's an idea: how about focusing on the real "enemy" of the Democratic Party, McCain and the Republican Party. Maybe then you'd not antagonize equally "worthy democrats" who happen to think a little differently than you do.
02:52 PM on 08/14/2008
what is this, germany 1943?
nice post, fabienne
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Pamela1961
12:49 PM on 08/14/2008
Clinton lost because Obama and the media used the race card and also because the media created some superhuman mythical candidate named Barack. Now that he is speaking more for himself and not always allowing the press into speeches he holds you see a tiny shift, but not one that will shake the media from their goal of an historic victory. Hey you can't blame them....or can you?

Is the story more important or electing a President who will be best for the country? Actually it appears neither democrats or republicans are too sure of their candidates and feel they'd like a do-over.
01:39 PM on 08/14/2008
Clinton lost because Obama is simply better.
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WoodyIV
03:21 PM on 08/14/2008
I'm sorry but there is no way the MSM has given Obama a free, or favorable ride. He has gotten much of the coverage true, but most of that coverage was negative and served to ask inane questions like, 'What? no flag pin today?
12:28 PM on 08/14/2008
Let's not forget my all time favorite comment by Penn. "Being human is overrated." Go robots! LOL!
06:30 PM on 08/13/2008
I found these memos an amazing read. For so long, I had an image of political consultants as intelligent, thoughtful, proud Americans. I thought Mark Penn was a slob, but he must certainly know his stuff to get that far in political consulting, eh? Well, no. After reading Mark Penn's work, I am no longer surprised that Hillary shot herself in the foot so badly. When you take such awful advice from someone who can't spell or construct a proper sentence, you are going down the wrong path.

I am shocked that Senator Clinton put her trust in someone so clueless.

Just read the first paragraph of Penn's first memo, entitled "The Plan". What serious candidate for President of the United States would even bother reading beyond the first page and taking the advice offered here? It's insane.

Seriously...Mark Penn does not deserve one dime of the $5m that Senator Clinton owes him.
Star2000dancer
Pay it forward, the movie..
10:21 PM on 08/13/2008
I think the AA racists need to apologize to the Clinton's. Obama inserted race in the campaign in his speech in Pennsylvania. The speech was suppose to explain why rev. Wright was so hateful, crude, & un American. Obama used the opportunity to inject race & avoid the Wright issue.


Clinton's remark was racial, not racist. A huge difference. Up until Obama's "famous" cop out speech, we were still asking if Obama was black enough for AA's. AA's threw their biggest presidential ally in history under the bus. No wonder Bill was so hurt & mad.
09:01 AM on 08/14/2008
Race has been the elephant in this room from the beginning.

Brave of him to address it.
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Veneita
11:02 AM on 08/14/2008
the repeated plays of the wright video, which penn sought, forced the philadelphia speech.
Star2000dancer
Pay it forward, the movie..
10:27 PM on 08/13/2008
Frankly I tried desperatelt to reach her to tell her she was going to lose right in the beginning. I offered my help. I watched everything like a hawk & I saw the mistakes she was making, watched as the media & all the male candidates treated her like dirt. especially here at Huff post.
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Rosie2
Rosie outlook all the way
07:52 PM on 08/14/2008
She treated all the male candidates like dirt and so are you. I guess it is alright for Hillary to insult and make fun of the opposition candidate ("and the sky will open etc.) but it can't be thrown back at her, if so it is sexism? Enough of the weak excuses.
04:49 PM on 08/13/2008
Why in the world would Democrats on this site want to waste time picking through old Mark Penn emails for no apparent purpose other than to continue campaigning against Hillary Clinton 2 months after she dropped out to campaign for Obama? To even make that kind of an offer is an insult to Obama supporters because it assumes they are fundamentally more interested in trashing Clinton than in promoting their candidate during a tight election, and I'm sure that can't be right. Maybe Arianna will realize how divisive these Atlantic Monthly articles are to party unity and discontinue featuring them, you think?
06:20 PM on 08/13/2008
I guess you're unaware of the emerging dynamic for the Convention, or the Hillary "Ghost Dance" movement that hopes to revive her and steal the nomination. It's useful to reaffirm that her campaign was as corrupt and conniving as we originally thought.
01:59 PM on 08/14/2008
That "emerging dynamic" is more like "Obama supporters' fever dream." Other than wanting her name placed in nomination, (which is pretty standard practice) what exacrtly is Hillary doing to even suggest that? The people who want to see her effort recognized are not the same as the PUMAs. Her delgates are primarily long time Dem loyalists (like the Clintons) who have no interest in sinking the party's chances. Is Obama such a fragile candidate that he can't even tolerate someone else receiving votes at the convention? Hillary's supporters will cast their votes, he'll win the nomination, and that will be that. It's ridiculous how so many Obama supporters are insisting that they don't want Hillary's name in nomination because it will "divide the party," while at the same time vilifying both her an Bill. Who's doing the dividing here?

The answer is that Obama supporters and campaign officials built up such a hatred towards Hillary that they can't let it go. It's not enough that she endorses and campaigns for him, she has to fall in love with him. But Obama supporters are only interested in engaging in ridiculous conspiracy theories about her.

If Hillary can supposedly wave her hand and get all 18 million of her voters to do whatever she says, then why can't Obama wave his hand and have his supporters stop calling the Clintons racists? I give Hillary extra credit for campaiging so vigorousaly for Obama after the slimy, race based campaign he ran.
06:31 PM on 08/13/2008
Knowledge is power. You can always learn more by reading more.

As an Obama supporter, I am not insulted. Please don't assume that you understand me, and please stop speaking for me.
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Weasie16
02:07 PM on 08/13/2008
I don't get this anymore either. The reason there is animosity isn't because of the win and lose...it's because of the obnoxious journalism that transpired throughout the Primary season. It is beyond my comprehension how anyone can sit there and expect everyone to come together when at every turn, on Internet, TV, Newspaper or magazine all you hear about is "evil" Hillary. It's absurd and frankly getting more irritating as time passes.....which, surprise, surprise ....makes her supporters MORE angry and less united within the Democratic party. And yet, the arrogance that inspired this divide does nothing but continue as if they're unable to see their own refection in the mirror or role in this scenario. Hillary is stumping for Obama...the hour counters can frankly, stick it, because as far as I can see...NO ONE else is campaigning AT ALL for Sen Obama. Where are all the other Democratic candidates and why is it that Hillary is the only one held accountable for campaigning for Sen. Obama? Her run for the nomination was historic and worthy of record and honor. If everyone would stop being so catty and obnoxious....the party would heal....but I suspect all this is for a reason. God forbid Sen Obama loses....our party will have Hillary all gift wrapped and ready for exhibit A. Good grief!!