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Amb. Marc Ginsberg

Posted: May 17, 2010 12:10 PM

Peanuts Diplomacy

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Here we go again. Just as the UN Security Council was finally getting closer to adopting a tougher package of economic sanctions against Iran's illegal nuclear program, Tehran suddenly agrees to transfer to Turkey 2,645 pounds of low-enriched uranium in return for nuclear fuel rods for a Tehran's medical research reactor.

Excuse me for not falling over backwards to applaud Tehran's so-called last ditch magnanimity. The arrangement smacks of the "Peanuts" cartoon strip where Iran in the guise of Lucy yanks the football away from Charlie Brown as he is about to finally score a sanctions touchdown.

I've seen this comedy before.

Last October, the U.S. and its allies offered Tehran virtually the same deal in Geneva. Iran agreed to surrender temporarily half of its stockpile of low grade nuclear material to the IAEA, and diplomats broke out the champagne. What a waste of good bubbly. It took but a few days for Tehran to sabotage the very deal it had agreed to by lathering it up with conditions so laughable that rendered it meaningless.

Moreover, even if Iran lives up to its own deal (and that remains to be seen) and transfers to Turkey this amount of enriched fuel, it represents little more than 50% of Iran's declared nuclear stockpile. And what is it doing with the other 50%? Take one guess. You guessed correctly! Iran will continue to enrich its remaining stockpile outside the prying eyes of IAEA inspectors --leaving it more than enough to develop a nuclear weapon -- a proposition now substantiated by the IAEA.

No doubt as it buys more time to continue its illicit nuclear enrichment program, Tehran is betting that this latest ploy will derail the tougher pending UN sanctions against it. Its latest diplomatic gambit may indeed succeed courtesy of Brazil and Turkey -- two nations whose leaders have pretentions of global diplomatic grandeur even if it means aiding a felonious nation like Iran.

Don't be fooled! Swapping fuel for fuel rods is a circus side show.

Iran's latest subterfuge masks the fact that it still openly refuses to stop its uninspected nuclear enrichment program -- THE central issue on the table before the UN Security Council. And Turkey doesn't even have the nuclear fuel rods to fulfill this so-called swap agreement. So where are those fuel rods suppose to come from? The U.S., Russia and France -- the very nations that offered the same deal in October that Iran sabotaged. What was so wrong then about the very same deal that Iran is willing to accept today?

OK, despite being a skeptic (and who wouldn't be at this point) I am willing to be proven wrong. If this eleventh hour "breakthrough" heralds an ironclad commitment by Iran's ruling clique in the face of a tougher sanctions hammer to come clean and fulfill its international treaty obligations to abide by the NPT and UN Security Council resolutions, well then, "Hallelujah!"

And just in case I'll place a bottle of Champagne Philiponnat Clos de Goisses on ice.

 
 
 
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07:41 PM on 05/19/2010
"There is no proof whatsoever that Iran is engaged in nuclear weapons production — a fact re-affirmed by the National Intelligence Estimate of December 2007 and every report by the International Atomic Energy Agency. Moreover, Iran is guaranteed the right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, to which it is a signatory."

All the rest is noise and warmongering (for Israel and against US interests).

http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=node/9989
06:48 PM on 05/19/2010
Ex-Amb.Ginsberg sources all his anti-Iran 'facts' and 'evidence' from ISIS and he calls ISIS/ Albright: "the authoritative organization of scientists on nuclear matters": Look what Scott Ritter had to say about that same organisation:

"Albright and ISIS play the role of patsy, the middleman peddling misinformation to a media too lazy to conduct their own due diligence before running with a story."

Ritter concluded that "Albright, operating under the guise of his creation, ISIS, has a track record of inserting hype and speculation about matters of great sensitivity in a manner which skews the debate toward the worst-case scenario".

"Albright is fed sensitive information from a third party, and then packages it in a manner that is consumable by the media." I wonder which 3rd party?!

Scott Ritter, "The Nuclear Expert Who Never Was"
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080626_the_nuclear_expert_who_never_was/

The cat is out of the bag and the people have woken up
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CigarGod
What is your process?
08:27 PM on 05/19/2010
-former Amb. Ginsberg,
What do you have to say to Scott Ritters report on your "expert", ISIS and "Doctor" David Albright?
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CigarGod
What is your process?
09:32 AM on 05/20/2010
Still waiting for you to challenge Mr. Ritters critique of Mr. Albright.
Mr. Ritter seems to have years of actual experience as an actual employee in the field, while Mr. Albright went on one field trip and suddenly creates himself a doctor (honorary) and becomes a world renowned expert.

Can you address this specific question?
Can you justify presenting Mr. Albright as an expert?
Can you do this without bringing other issues into your argument which have nothing to do with Mr. Ritters expertise and experience?
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CigarGod
What is your process?
01:35 PM on 05/19/2010
Hi Marc.
I checked out the website of the people you consider experts on this subject and I've provided comments and links down thread.
But, for the other posters here, you might find it interesting to note that the supposedly non-partisan organization that Marc uses to condemn Iran, just happens to list other troublesome countries as well as other non-npt countries...except he leaves Israel off the list.
Click on the countries they monitor:
http://isis-online.org/about/staff/
02:48 PM on 05/19/2010
Yeah...it comes as no surprise at this point.. We get what he is all about.
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CigarGod
What is your process?
03:29 PM on 05/19/2010
I am constantly embarrassed by the transparent dishonesty of my fellow Jews.
Trying to find an honest way to support Israel actions is like trying to support Hannity, Rush, O'Reilly, Palin, et al...with a straight face.
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CigarGod
What is your process?
03:40 PM on 05/19/2010
Okay, HP.
Is this better?

I am constantly embarrassed by the transparent dishonesty of ...some....of my fellow Jews.
Trying to find an honest way to support many of Israel's actions is like trying to support Hannity, Rush, O'Reilly, Palin, et al...with a straight face.
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10:46 AM on 05/19/2010
Iran understands that sanctions really won't impact them; they will be able to get around them. For example: when there were sanctions against Iran when they were holding US Citizens as hostages, Marc Rich and Pincus Green were actively selling to Iran. They made hundreds of millions of dollars doing this. Then, Clinton pardoned them. As Rahm says, "never waste a crisis"; the situation with Iran is certainly a crisis and many from the Rich-Green ilk will be making billions.
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09:45 PM on 05/18/2010
Makes no difference.

No matter what they do, we'll just keep moving the goalpost so that they can never satisfy us.
07:52 PM on 05/18/2010
Hey, everyone it is clear by now that the forner ambs. and current Fox news broadcaster does not have a clue about NPT, the IAEA and Iran. The subject matter is just too sophisticated and blows right over. However, our dear Marc is getting a kick out of all of the comments.You see all he is looking for are more readers for his article so that he get's to keep posting on huff. post. We are just feeding his numbers game. Any knowledgeable person would know the rudimentary requirements of the NPT - let alone someone who was a former amb. God help this nation if these are the type of amb. that are selected for diplomatic posts.
06:05 AM on 05/19/2010
fanned Foxrun . . . yes, we should start giving Amb Ginsberg a wide birth
07:14 PM on 05/18/2010
"..despite thousands of hours of inspections in Iran, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) – the United Nations body that monitors NPT compliance – has found no evidence of a bomb program."

"Also Monday, IAEA chief Yukiya Amano verified that Iran has not been diverting its declared nuclear material to a weapons program"

"IAEA doesn't say Iran 'violated' NPT"

If there is no evidence, what are we talking about here, just Israeli propaganda I suppose. Discuss

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2010/0504/NPT-101-Is-Iran-violating-the-nuclear-treaty
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Amb. Marc Ginsberg
10:51 PM on 05/18/2010
I don't mind a good debate, but pleez don't associate me with Fox News...if you want to associate me with any network, well then, my last two television appearances were on CNN and MSNBC, respectively. Marc
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I'd tell you all about me if you were my friend.
06:26 AM on 05/19/2010
"pleez don't associate me with Fox News."

I don't get this then... "Marc Ginsberg currently serves as a FOX News contributor in which he addresses foreign policy, economic policy, and defense issues."

From here ... http://www.foxnews.com/bios/talent/marc-ginsberg/
10:30 AM on 05/19/2010
So you are so bad with facts that you can't even remember who your own employer is?
07:12 PM on 05/18/2010
The "Amb." is a shill clearly. This is issue is transparent. Again, this whole Iran issue is only being pushed by people whose loyalties are with Israel and it is to the detriment of America's interests. It is based on Israeli lies and purposeful distortions. What a shameful attempt at distortion on their part in order to lead the US into another proxy war based on nothing, for Israels benefit. The tail wagging the dog. There is really nothing in this whole Iran thing, it is a smoke screen. Iran has not broken a single article of the NPT, and there is no evidence behind anything essential they are being accused of. Just find out the actual facts by doing a little research. The war drums, fear mongering, racism, all the rest, and all the noise we are hearing is AIPAC/Israel lobby/ Israel firsters/ Israeli agitation-propaganda trying to get their way and have America fight a war for Israel which is not in the US interests...just like Iraq ( c.f. Office of Special Plans OSP). Remember Iraq and Iran were/are the 2 major foreign policy threats to Israel, not America. Reject and ignore all the propaganda.
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Amb. Marc Ginsberg
11:08 PM on 05/18/2010
Why then did the IAEA refer to the UN Security Council 7 specific breaches of the NPT by Iran that resulted in Iran's allies -- China and Russia -- joining the U.S. and others in adopting UN resolutions condemning Iran and imposing INTERNATIONAL economic sanctions. I suppose this is just an inconvenient truth that gets in the way of the big lie on Iran's compliance with the NPT! Marc
09:59 AM on 05/19/2010
Amb. Ginsberg- Name any breaches. Please, I dare you. Show us where Iran has broken the NPT in any way at all! Very hard job because they haven't.

Why not deal substantively with any of my comments above, they are pretty major claims. But you don't deal with them, you make some oblique sophistic circular point with no evidence...

As you may have noticed from the vast majority of comments below ( apart from those from Israelis and you, if there is a difference!) we have all woken up, and are silently watching what the Israel lobby is doing (again), we have not forgotten and will remember, and are aware that this is all a mirage, its only about Israeli paranoia, warmongering and entirely against American interests.

Marc, stop shilling for Israel, (its rather treasonous isn't it) and try be loyal to America for God's sake.

Now, please respond to the SUBSTANCE of my previous post.
05:20 PM on 05/22/2010
I wonder which TV stations AIPAC and like-minded people control? FOX? CNN?
06:24 PM on 05/18/2010
A much, MUCH more informed (and entertaining) review of the recent Brazilian-Turkish deal with Iran:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LE19Ak01.html

Turn to foreign press, as even the once independent Huffington Post can no longer provide a viable perspective on foreign affairs...
07:09 PM on 05/18/2010
Gee, some actual substance.
Thanks.
06:04 PM on 05/18/2010
What do you expect when a former ambassador joins Fox News! Have you seen anyone at Fox know what they are speaking about? Do they ever tell you the truth? Even still who watches Fox? Sorry, Marc. this is not the audience who watches Fox News.
07:12 PM on 05/18/2010
That just about says it all.
His undiplomatic rant, says the rest.
05:21 PM on 05/22/2010
An Ambassador that pushes for war and likes to brag about drinking champagne in the same breath.
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05:50 PM on 05/18/2010
Marc,
Does AIPAC pay its invoices in US Dollars or Israeli Shekels?
06:05 PM on 05/18/2010
Didn't you know they don't pay their invoices. If they don't steal classified info. they get everything for free.
05:47 PM on 05/18/2010
Perhaps Marc Ginsberg can explain the approving response to the Iran-Brazil-Turkey deal from the Chinese:

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5122

http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_59903.shtml

Translation of China's response to the US/Israel/UK/France/et al.: BACK OFF FROM OUR INTERESTS.
07:55 PM on 05/18/2010
Are you kidding - he doesn't know what the NPT stands for let alone discuss the intricacies of these negotiations.
02:01 PM on 05/18/2010
As Alexander Cockburn, America’s best known journalist and author, wrote in CountrPunch Diary (March 19-21, 2010): “My fellow Americans, tonight I’m going to talk frankly about a pesky little nation called Israel…..” Don’t get excited. It will never happen. Is there really a crisis in US-Israeli relations? Yes and No. Yes, because the world’s premier power doesn’t care to have its vice-president publically humiliated by a midget of a nation whose entire population is smaller than that of Las Angeles county. No, because the elected politicians nominally running the government of the world’s premier power live in mortal fear of Israel lobby in the United State.This time, as always, No will carry the day.
01:23 PM on 05/18/2010
Memo to Marc:
So let me get this right, Israel can claim 'ambiguitiy' over nukes BUT Iran who is publicly stating 'we're not intersted in nukes' is only good for a 'defensive' war started by yourselves? I've heard it all now.

And as long as Israel defends nuclear ambiguity as 'strategic advantage', Iran can also defend it's nuclear ambiguity as 'strategic advantage'. So leave Iran alone as long as you allow Israel and any other country to defend it's nuclear ambiguity as 'strategic advantage'.

If the US and Israel want Iranian nuclear transparency, then Israel better be just as tranparent. They started the ME arms race, now they have to live with it. Israeli exceptionalism is over.
01:38 PM on 05/18/2010
Amen. Jesus bless it. Faved and already fanned.
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Amb. Marc Ginsberg
04:39 PM on 05/18/2010
Every time Iran violates a UN Security Council Resolution (7 already), blatantly,violates NPT obligations, kills in cold blood innocent demonstrators, violates basic human rights of its own citizens, engages in terrorism around the world, interferes in Iraq's internal affairs, provides IED's in Iraq that kill American soldiers, provides arms and trains terrorist organizations, detains innocent Americans, oh, and has a neanderthal for a president, to boot, all of these immutable facts are swept conveniently under the rug so that Israel bashers can set up some false moral equivalency between Israel having nuclear weapons and Iran entitled to the same. Who is kidding who? Marc
05:09 PM on 05/18/2010
#1 Hey Marc - Looks like your kidding yourself.

"Every time Iran violates a UN Security Council Resolution (7 already), blatantly,violates NPT obligations" - Israel does not belong to the NPT. If you want Iranian nuclear transparency then Israel better be just as transparent. No double standards. Period.

"kills in cold blood innocent demonstrators" - you mean like what happened here in the US at Kent State or over in Greece a few days ago?

"violates basic human rights of its own citizens" - like what? The jews in Iran don't want to leave. But you must mean apartheid Israel and the Palestinians and the Gazans right?

"engages in terrorism around the world' and "provides arms and trains terrorist organizations" Unlike Israel right? You might want to talk about all those illegal settler terrorists, especially Jack Teital. And don't forget the Mossads failed targeted assassination attempt in Dubai.

"interferes in Iraq's internal affairs" - unlike the US on Israel behalf, unlike the US in Iran, and unlike AIPAC et.al. here in the US right?
05:13 PM on 05/18/2010
Nothing you wrote just now addressed the core issues involved. Despite your *former* ambassador title, you retain ZERO credibility on this issue, as you purposefully, TACTICALLY avoid illustrating the full picture for your readership.

You certainly have your ditto corner of neoCONservatives who put the interests of a foreign government waaaaay before those of the United States of America, but you're not fooling anyone else...especially the Chinese, Russian, Brazilian, cross-Hispanic, Pakistani, Afghani, and cross-African readers on this site.

P.S. What did you mean by "false moral equivalency"? That Israel is above the standards of international laws and standards? Shill?
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CigarGod
What is your process?
09:25 AM on 05/18/2010
lol
1st rule of a propagandist:
If the facts are not on your side, don't use any.
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persianadvocate
10:07 AM on 05/18/2010
lol, on a serious note: any idea who to replace ambassadors?
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CigarGod
What is your process?
10:38 AM on 05/18/2010
Clinton appointed him and Obama kept him.
I think Obama would have to replace him. But, the dude is very well connected, so it's not likely he is going anywhere unless he wants out.
Click on his name and check out his articles. Unmistakable what his positions are.
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persianadvocate
10:08 AM on 05/18/2010
how*