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Amitai Etzioni

Amitai Etzioni

Posted: July 19, 2010 12:31 PM

Four Myths About Afghanistan

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Here follows a list of widely held myths about Afghanistan.

1. The number of troops
According to the figures often cited in the media, the number of NATO troops in Afghanistan, most of which are American, is near 100,000. Actually, the number is twice as large, as there are more than 104,000 private contractors in that country who carry out many of the missions the military used to carry out itself.

2. We must cut benefits.
One of the clichés of the day, repeated even by several liberal economists, is that we must cut benefits (such as Medicare and Social Security) in order to reduce the deficit, because that is where the big bucks are. Well, is a trillion dollars big enough? We have already spent some $229 billion in Afghanistan and our commitment to stay the course there is estimated to be at least $1 trillion for the next decade.

3. Our money helps build a new Afghanistan.
For counterinsurgency to succeed, we are told we cannot win militarily; we must win over the hearts and minds of the population. To succeed we need to get them jobs and a decent income, eradicate illiteracy and otherwise build a civil society. Several reports show that corrupt Afghans ferret out so much money that ends up in overseas bank accounts (especially in Dubai) that this outflow exceeds whatever we have given them. (The difference is made up by income from the trade in poppy).

4. We seek to help Afghanistan build a democracy.
Yeah, but only as long as they do what they are told by our emissaries. We played a key role in drafting their constitution. We insisted that the government be a Kabul-centered one, which appoints governors and mayors and allows next to no autonomy in a country in which local bonds are strong and the distrust of the national government runs deep. We regularly seek to manipulate the decisions made by the Afghan government and undermine the peace deal Karzai is trying to work out with the Taliban. No wonder they have no real sense of what democracy is all about.

"You cannot fool all of the people..."
Americans are busy seeking jobs or doing theirs, taking care of their children, trying to find a few moments to follow their favorite sports team and have a beer. It hence takes them time before they realize that they are hoodwinked by reports about Afghanistan. But in the longer run -- and by now we have been in this war longer than in any other -- they will see that what they are told about Afghanistan has no connection to the reality on the ground. They are not going to appreciate having been fooled.

 

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02:22 PM on 07/20/2010
Bush had no plan going in. Obama needs no plan coming out!
09:49 AM on 07/20/2010
The War must be paid for as we go!

It is selfish of this generation to charge future generations for our mistakes. One way is to charge a 100% death tax (after burial expenses) for all Americans until the portion of the national debt attributed to the Wars is paid in full.

How could any living person object?
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Imo Verit
08:17 AM on 07/20/2010
“Our money helps build a new Afghanistan”

Too bad we (the people) get no return on the investment. Why not invest in America? Oh, I forgot, Osama bin Laden may still be alive and may still be in Afghanistan living in a cave, and he may have had a hand in 911. Lest we forget something that was never really proved in the first place, let’s continue to shovel money and lives into Afghanistan. We’ll call it, uh, speculation.

http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/16-no-hard-evidence-connecting-bin-laden-to-9-11/
07:33 AM on 07/20/2010
Etzioni wants the USA out of Afghanistan so it can concentrate it's limited war machine on Iran:

'The U.S. will have to confront Iran or give up the Middle East', Amitai Etzioni, June 23, 2010

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/focus-u-s-a/focus-u-s-a-the-u-s-will-have-to-confront-iran-or-give-up-the-middle-east-1.297931

Etzioni fails to mention: 1. The Obama-Iran plan negotiated Brazilian/Turkey team; 2. Make the entire mid-east a nuclear-free zone.
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PRONESE
Somewhat Opinionated Curmudgeon
06:24 AM on 07/20/2010
Comment Redacted.
R/ PRONESE
05:47 AM on 07/20/2010
the troops are doing all the wrong things and should be pulled out . . . read this:

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/afghanistan+the+plan+to+aposreintegrateapos+the+taliban/3716677
02:42 AM on 07/20/2010
• Facts from latest issue of Harper's:
In the 10th year the cost has risen from 50 bn last year to 70 bn this year.
The gov't of Afganistan lacks any popular support.
Defense Minister's son got 360 million for transport from the Pentagon but owns no trucks.
They don't have roads, don't have schools.
A Chinese company bought an $88 bn copper mine.
America is funding both sides of an Afghan civil war.
The Afghan Army is not responsible for security in any part of the country
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01:47 AM on 07/20/2010
We went in without a plan and the people cheered.
11:18 PM on 07/19/2010
Our Generals are fools! So are our Congressmen and our past two presidents are competing for the biggest fool of all!
07:08 AM on 07/20/2010
And none of 'em are bigger fools than the voters...

We deserve the government we get.
09:33 PM on 07/19/2010
nice list..
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Carl Caroli
Give peace a chance
09:16 PM on 07/19/2010
Reinstate the draft when the president declares war anywhere, and especially now. You'll see how quickly everyone pays attention to it.
12:29 AM on 07/20/2010
very VERY fast
08:49 PM on 07/19/2010
Professor Etzioni’s points are excellent, but hardly novel.
Getting out of Afghanistan would benefit the US the same was as getting out of Indochina and Algeria benefitted France, getting out of Indonesia benefitted the Netherlands, getting out of Africa benefitted Belgium and Portugal, etc .etc. Our departure will probably not benefit the Afghans (certainly not the women). European colonialism was for profit. US imperial motives have - in addition - included misguided idealism. Either way, it doesn’t work. It just ruins you. Give it up.
Tom Kando,
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02:40 AM on 07/20/2010
not sure we are doing much for women either
60 girls schools burned down?
Harpers has a new article
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BurtR
08:31 PM on 07/19/2010
the American people not only appreciate being fooled, they love it , beg for it and ask for more! Sarah Palin, Ronald Reagan, intelligent design, WMDs on and on and on
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opines
07:06 PM on 07/19/2010
Assume a Democratic President (not Obama), today, concluded that the war in Afghanistan was futile, and too costly in a time of economic distress. Does he have the power to end it and withdraw our troops?

Theoretically, he may have that power, but realistically he would have to overcome the opposition of the Military Industrial Complex which wields far more clout than the President.

Having invested over two decades treasure in producing more weaponry than the rest of the world combined while our industrial base shriveled, we have turned our destiny over to militarists.

The President's function is to read the speeches the MIC writes for him.
ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
06:20 PM on 07/19/2010
The cost (correctly quoted here) of the Afghanistan occupation is less than 1/6th our defense budget: $100B out of $650+ total defense budget.

We're spending 16% of the current defense budget on Afghanistan, so cut that?

Why not bring the 90,000 troops home from Germany and Japan?
Those countries haven't been a problem for a while :-)
11:53 AM on 07/20/2010
Or both -- and another 30% beyond that to bring defense budget down to a rational $300 billion -- still more than 4 times as much as the next country spends on Defense.
pinegrove
Corporations are not people......
01:45 PM on 07/23/2010
The way I understood it the money for the wars is not coming out of the defense budget. It is part of the unfunded deficit.