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Fact vs. Fiction: Arms Trade Treaty and Gun Ownership in the U.S.

Posted: 07/19/2012 3:16 pm

As world leaders meet in New York this month to negotiate the first ever global Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), the Internet has been buzzing with conspiracy theories that such a treaty would infringe on Second Amendment gun ownership rights in the U.S.

The National Rifle Association (NRA) is one of the more high-profile groups to take aim at the arms trade treaty. The organization recently posted a series of videos on their site driven at best by misinformation and at worst a deliberate effort to undermine the treaty.

The videos spew a string of distortions, misrepresentations and outright lies, claiming that if the arms trade treaty is passed, then "what you'll wind up with is gun control on an international level specifically designed to be used against honest, law-abiding people."

Such distortions only give credence to allegations that the NRA's real agenda may be to protect the lucrative weapons industry, which helps bankroll the organization. That industry is estimated to exceed $60 billion annually and benefits immensely from the current free-for-all in the global trade in weapons and ammunition.

Let's break down fact from fiction.

Will the ATT stop the sale of handguns in the United States?

No, it will not.

Will the ATT affect the ability of Americans to own guns for hunting, shooting or any other legal purpose?

No, it will not.

The UN General Assembly resolution starting the process on the Arms Trade Treaty explicitly states that it is "the exclusive right of States to regulate internal transfers of arms and national ownership, including through constitutional protections on private ownership."

No arms trade treaty will therefore infringe on that exclusive right.

Don't just take our word for it. The U.S. State Department has said:

There will be no restrictions on civilian possession or trade of firearms otherwise permitted by law or protected by the U.S. Constitution. There will be no dilution or diminishing of sovereign control over issues involving the private acquisition, ownership, or possession of firearms, which must remain matters of domestic law.

What the ATT will do:

It will stop the black market in arms on global level.

Every minute, someone dies from armed violence. Because of the out-of-control worldwide arms trade, thousands more are raped, forced into becoming child soldiers or otherwise injured.

For years, Amnesty International has been working with partners in the U.S. and around the world who are sick and tired of weapons falling into the hands of human rights abusers. We are working to save lives by demanding a "bulletproof" arms trade treaty that would:

  • Stop the transfer of arms when there is a substantial risk they will be used to violate human rights and humanitarian law, including by committing genocide, acts of gender-based violence or the forced recruitment of children into armed conflict
  • Include all conventional arms and ammunition
  • Be effective, transparent, and enforceable

So, again, who exactly stands to gain by opposing the treaty?

 

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03:39 PM on 09/06/2012
Will this also stop our own government from selling guns to Mexican drug lords?
10:51 AM on 07/25/2012
Yeah, sure it will stop the black market in arms...slavery is illegal, too, yet it goes on as it has since the beginning of human history. Just as swords were sold in back alleys in Mediterranean ports in ancient times, weapons, particularly light weapons, will continue to be sold in countless bazaars, parking lots and illicit shops from Zanzibar to Atlanta. The UN would have a better chance trying to prevent the human species from procreating.
11:01 AM on 07/20/2012
"Every minute, someone dies from armed violence."

That equation is (60 minutes * 24 hours) * 365 days = 525,600 dead. But the big thing to note in that sentence is "armed" not firearm or gun.

from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide:

Many members of the Interahamwe and Impuzamugambi were armed only with machetes. Even after the 1993 peace agreement signed in Arusha, businessmen close to General Habyarimana imported 581,000 machetes from China[15] for Hutu use in killing Tutsi, because machetes were cheaper than guns.

It is not the firearm or knife or club -- it is the person wielding it.
04:59 AM on 07/20/2012
Let your Senators and Congressmen know in no uncertain terms that any votes for this treaty will be tantamount to political suicide.
Anti-gun = Anti-Constitution
Anti-Gun = Anti-freedom
Anti-Gun = Anti-equal rights
Anti-Gun = Anti-American
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06:11 PM on 07/19/2012
Just as I thought - No one has the right to self-defense nor the equipment to enforce it.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/research/human-rights-basics/universal-declaration-of-human-rights
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06:02 PM on 07/19/2012
If it wasn't for the persistent and aggressive actions by the NRA, as an NGO, and other firearms rights groups the ATT would most certainly restrict/infringe/prohibit firearms and related equipment in the US. There is an outstanding question as to regulatory impositions carried along with the treaty that can (and will) be used to restrict American Constitutional Rights.
It is not surprising that this article refers to the effectiveness of American firearms rights groups in shaping and directing the evolution of the ATT as an excuse to mock them.
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09:07 PM on 07/19/2012
This is Amnesty International's half-truths. They aren't even mentioning the record-keeping and tracing for domestic firearms.

This treaty has a provision that requires member nations to adopt weapon tracing and registration legislation. It defines any weapon which is not marked and registered as "illicit."

The weapon must be marked and recorded "at the time of manufacture" before the company knows for certain whether the weapon will be sold here in the US or overseas. So firearms sold here in the US will be also be marked and recorded and don't let anyone tell you different. The records will be kept on file with the exporting country for a minimum of 30 years, if not indefinately.

Also there is no provision made to require the exporting country's records be destroyed for any weapons we buy from overseas. If you buy a shotgun from Italy, Nothing forces Italy to destroy the records. Here is a link to a pdf file that outlines the tracing provisions.

http://www.poa-iss.org/InternationalTracing/ITI_English.pdf

Have a look at Section II, Subsection 6, c which defines any weapon not marked and recorded as "illicit."

Then Check out Section II Subsection 8, a which requires the recording and marking "at the time of manufacture."

Then look at Section IV, Subsection 12 which requires that the records be kept for 30 years or indefinately.

These things are intentionally missing from this myth/fact article.
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11:47 PM on 07/23/2012
[ thanks for the note about mine being censored.....like you said ....what in
the heck for ?!?.....maybe just flagged and the mod will have to take time
to put it back up ?.....]
12:33 PM on 07/27/2012
Jason the arms trade treaty doesn't exist yet. The discussions are just finishing up.
You link is about a framework for activities to counter the illicit trade in small arms. The arms trade treaty will aim to regulate the legal, international arms trade.
06:58 PM on 07/20/2012
Not much can be added to the excellent posts by 2N2B5 and Jason zzzz - only to refer to the statement, "It will stop the black market in arms on global level." Isn't that an oxymoron? How does a TREATY and/or LAW stop criminals aka black market? Since when do criminals (black market) abide by any law?
12:21 PM on 07/27/2012
Do you think we should make murder and stealing legal too - because it being illegal doesn't stop it happening.