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Whose Prosecution Is it Anyway?

Posted: 08/10/11 12:53 PM ET

There is a battle for state's rights in an unusual locale -- Rhode Island. It has to do with a man, Jason Pleau, who is charged with murder for gunning down a gas station manager outside a Woonsocket bank in that state. At issue is this; Rhode Island does not have the death penalty, and Governor Chafee is fighting not to transfer Pleau to federal court for prosecution because of the fear that the federal government will seek the death penalty. In fact, a court order has issued telling the state to turn him over, and Governor Chafee is fighting a battle not to do so. The Boston Globe " target="_hplink">agrees with the sentiment expressed here -- after all, Pleau has agreed to plead guilty and serve life without parole for his crime, saving millions in taxpayer funds to prosecute him, and untold misery for the victim's family in having to relive their loss in court.

Governor Chafee's concerns are legitimate -- what possible reason could the federal government have for wanting to take over this prosecution if it were not seeking the death penalty? Pleau can only do life without parole once after all. Others have opined that Chafee's stance sets a dangerous precedent -- if Governor Chafee can resist this federal court order, might not Governor Perry in Texas refuse to implement our new health care law? A fair point substantively, but a different one as a legal matter. This is not a global refusal to obey a court order, but rather a legal position being taken by the executive branch in Rhode Island before a court which may indeed rule against it.

There is another issue here as well -- which is the over-criminalization of our society, and the over-federalization of criminal prosecutions. It may sound simplistic, but we don't need anywhere near the number of criminal statutes we have -- murder was illegal yesterday and will be tomorrow, but we keep on passing bill after bill to make it illegal in various circumstances. Certainly there has been a need in recent time to write statutes that reach crimes via the internet -- certainly no one would have anticipate that need fifty years ago, but there are just too many laws now.

And double jeopardy -- remember that? Well as long as the federal government can add an "element" that isn't in the state crime (for example an arson murder with an accelerant in state court can also be an arson with an incendiary device and murder in federal court) allows prosecution by BOTH governmental authorities for the same acts. Yes, you heard me right; a person can plead guilty to a minor drug sale in state court, do his time (most likely under a year for a small amount of drugs) and be arrested again for the identical act and prosecuted in federal court where the draconian sentences will up the ante to five to ten years. At a huge personal cost to the inmate, to the society to which he will return minus those years of his life, any skills and with little or no ability to find employment. I have written about the need to end drug prohibition and to tax and treat instead, but that is not the issue I wish to address today.

The Department of Justice has a standard for taking on a capital prosecution that requires a "substantial federal interest" and requires that the federal government consider, among other things, the ability of the state to adequately prosecute and punish the offense. There is no doubt that Rhode Island can do that, and there is every reason to question the desire of the federal government to step in under these circumstances.

The federal government should stop over-prosecuting and allow Rhode Island to accept Mr. Pleau's plea.

If we are serious about conserving our resources, about upgrading our credit rating, about solving rather than reacting to our problems, well we should recognize that we have limited resources in this country -- the recent budget debates and rancorous parrying back and forth certainly illustrate that. Others have commented that no one wants to touch certain entitlements for fear of backlash. How about the most expensive of all programs besides defense -- the prison industrial complex? Why on earth should we double prosecute the same offenses, double punish them and double (at least) the cost both in human and financial terms of those offenses?

 
 
 
 
 
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CSConradEsq
I am so enjoying watching Mitt self-destruct!!!
12:17 PM on 08/15/2011
One of the dirty little secrets behind our present unemployment numbers: millions of people with felony records thanks to the War on Drugs are effectively locked out of obtaining employment of any sort. Yet they still must eat, clothe themselves and sleep somewhere -- and that costs money. They will either have to rely on family and friends, government assistance, or return to crime. Thus the War on Drugs becomes a cancer on our economy that will last for decades unless these people are pardoned, or employers start being willing to give ex-cons good jobs.
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Edward Wilkes
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11:53 PM on 08/14/2011
Let him be tried and convicted for his crime. Life is long enough!
12:52 AM on 08/15/2011
Easily said for someone not experiencing a loss at the hands of these killers. I await the execution of Darold Stenson in Washington for killing my friend Frank Hoerner and his own wife. Now almost 20 yrs later after numerous frivolous stays and delays by anti DP sapps and judges that disregard the facts just to cheat justice and allow us closure. I await Michael Thornton and Janeen Entrees executions in CA for the kidnap, rape, torture and murder of my 16 year old cousin Michelle Curran in 2001. What folks like you don't and can't understand is every day these animals live, reminds us of the days we have had taken with our loved ones at their hands. Prosecute them to fullest extent of.the available justice be it state or.federal.
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Edward Wilkes
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01:06 AM on 08/15/2011
Gee, Mike, I hope everything works-out to your satisfaction as well as with your families. Mike in this article it has much to do with tax payer money okay! Rhode Island does not have the death penalty, okay! I think it was a very terrible crime that was committed against your cousin. The one or ones that did this should suffer dearly! Believe me I am not for the rights of the criminal in this article. I just think that it should not be dragged out!
Mike I once went to school with a Joanne Bednarz I wonder what happened to her. Any relation? Rome NY.
12:51 PM on 08/12/2011
I say let the feds prosecute and save state monies for other things. No brainer, let someone else foot the bill.
12:47 PM on 08/12/2011
Why would the federal government take over this prosecution ?
1. In one word, "detainers".
If the federal goverment determines that the accused is guilty the additional sentencing would protect the public from offenders in states without a death penalty by adding an additional sentence in the event a state ordered life sentence was commuted to something less than life. Some might argue that this is not likely but some legislators consider the release of prisoners to represent a potential cost saving measure.
2. The "over-criminalization of our society" does not apply to premeditated and aggravated murderers. When states IGNORE factors that make crimes federal crimes and federal prosecutors seek to enforce federal law this is NOT double jeapardy. Don't make the mistake of forgeting that the accused made a deal with the state for a his crimes (against the state) but he and his lawyers did not reach a plea bargain agreement with federal prosecutors for his federal crimes.
3. "Substancial federal interest" - Why would murderers accused of federal crimes NOT be of substancial federal interest? Should Lyon's choice to turn a blind eye to the federal courts be applied to all Federal cases (have states conduct all trials and house all federally accused offenders)?
4. Yes, costs in the system need to be addressed. Perhaps the state of Rhode Island should consider transferring all cases involving federal law to federal courts (as it should). Meanwhile they can consider measures that would streamline (or limit) the expensive appeals
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JBS
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11:41 AM on 08/11/2011
Apparently the murdered man was in the process of making a night deposit at FDIC insured bank. Robbing a depositor would fall under the federal statutes regarding bank robbery.

The murder was part of a conspiracy to commit armed robbery that involves others across the state line in Massachusetts.

Those two factors - federal bank robbery and interstate conspiracy to commit that robbery, would seem to me to be enough to validate a "substantial federal interest".
10:24 AM on 08/11/2011
On what grounds does the federal government claim jurisdiction over this crime?
11:38 PM on 08/10/2011
The feds will prosecute possession of child porn on the Internet and then the state can prosecute for the same offense. At times the states are more lenient but at times they can add extra time to the federal sentence. Doing federal time is a little easier than serving state prison time.
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Parade Keegan
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04:31 PM on 08/10/2011
My question is rhetorical but when did states become singular entities rather than a sum of the whole? We are UNITED and the legal costs of fighting this issue will have a far greater economic impact on all citizens, Rhode Island needs to acquiesce to federal authority. Bank robbery is a federal crime and the alleged perpetrator was well aware of this. Rhode Island Banks are covered by the FDIC, a federal insurance program to protect Rhode Island citizens, does the Gov. want this type of federal assistance to stop? Rhode Island receives federal funds to support many programs and the infrastructure of Rhode Island. I disagree with the stance Rhode Island is taking and IMO I find it treasonous.
12:30 PM on 08/10/2011
Generally speaking, the US Department of Justice is out of control, prosecuting the little guys and ignoring the big Wall Street criminals and banksters.
11:07 PM on 08/12/2011
This guy committed federal crimes that is why they are interested