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Whither Carson Palmer?

Posted: 10/06/11 07:48 AM ET

Now a quarter of the way through the NFL season, one of the league's better quarterbacks is under contract yet nowhere near his team as we speak. The relationship between Carson Palmer and the Cincinnati Bengals appears past the point of no return. Let's examine:

No more Bengals

Except for an injury-shortened season in 2008, Palmer started virtually every game for the Bengals between 2004 and 2010. He has passed for almost 23,000 yards and 154 touchdowns versus 100 interceptions and is a two-time Pro Bowl selection (2005 and 2006).

Now, for several reasons -- management, coaching, location, lifestyle, etc. -- Carson Palmer would much prefer to be an ex-Bengal, requesting a trade in January.

Although Palmer has not been directly quoted, his longtime agent David Dunn announced, "Because of the lack of success that Carson and the Bengals have experienced together, Carson strongly feels that a separation between him and the Bengals would be in the best interest of both parties."

Translation: "The Bengals should trade him and get some value because he's not showing up!"

Not surprisingly, Bengals president Mike Brown has repeatedly rejected that request

The enigma of Mike Brown

Brown is as principled and rigid a person as I have met in the NFL, to the annoyance of agents, players and some other NFL owners. Brown operates in a certain way and instills that mindset throughout the organization that includes his daughter Katie Blackburn -- who handles player contracts -- and son Paul, a scout.

When I started my career, I was an agent to Bengals such as quarterback Boomer Esiason and running back Eric Ball, ironically now the team's Director of Player Relations. In dealing with Brown, I found him to be confounding but respected him as a negotiator and learned from his style.

Later in my career with the Packers, I sat in league meetings and noticed some owners roll their eyes when Brown spoke. He felt the wrath of aggressive owners such as Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder who clearly felt Brown wasn't doing enough to market his product, preferring to sit back and collect his share of revenue produced by the disproportionate efforts of others.

In part because I always look at both sides of an argument - a hazard of my legal background -- and in part because I worked in the league's smallest market in Green Bay, I often found Brown's comments to be rational, frequently in the face of palpable sentiment against him in the room. Brown was one of only two owners (the other being Ralph Wilson of the Bills) to vote against the 2006 CBA, one that most owners soon regretted approving.

What can Brown do for Palmer?

Brown will not acquiesce to Palmer, even if it may become the popular thing to do. Brown knows that Palmer doesn't want to retire but is trying to leverage that to force a trade, remarking:

"Carson signed a contract. He made a commitment. He gave his word. We relied on his word. We relied on his commitment. We expected him to perform here. He's going to walk away from his commitment. We aren't going to reward him for doing it."

Translation: "Hope he enjoys retirement!"

There are certainly NFL owners and general managers that would trade Palmer to get value for a still-marketable player rather than letting him sit. And I suppose there is a chance Brown will eventually do so before the October 18 trading deadline. However, if I were Palmer, I wouldn't hold my breath.

So he sits

After failing to report to training camp, Palmer was placed on the reserve/did not report list, where he still sits, and his $11.5 million salary will stay off the books as long as he stays "retired".

Many ask if Palmer could leverage a trade by requesting to be put on active, forcing the Bengals to activate him. And were the Bengals a Cap-strapped team, Palmer would have some leverage.

However, the Bengals have plenty of Cap room. Were Palmer to request reinstatement, the Bengals could and would take on his remaining salary -- presently $8.8 million, with 13 weeks left this season. And each week that goes by reduces that commitment by $676,000.

Palmer and Dunn also know that were he reinstated, Palmer, as an active member of the team, would be required to attend all meetings, practices, games, etc. That is certainly not what he wants.

Thus, Palmer is parked on the reserve list and sits in retirement in California -- where he would love to play -- and the Bengals move on with Andy Dalton as their quarterback, turning the page on the Palmer era perhaps for good.

 

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Jamal Spencer
just me being myself
04:55 PM on 10/10/2011
Let Carson Palmer rot. He has 80 million in the bank,so why come back to the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals don' want him back,in fact,his teammates and this city don't want him back. Even other players in the NFL has call him out and said that he quit on his team. I feel much better about this team and its future. By the way,Mike Brown has put his money where his mouth is resigning Marvin Lewis(7 million),Andrew Whitworth(10 million) Leon Hall(9.5 million) and Kyle Cook(3.5 million) and is getting close to singing a couple of more players by the end of the year. Carson will be traded next year when a team(Dolphins) is looking for a quarterback.
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Mister President
I stand by what I said, whatever it was.
10:25 PM on 10/09/2011
"one of the league's better quarterbacks"

Earlier in his career he was but the last couple years he has not looked good at all. A team like the Seahawks or Vikings could probably use him though, especially if the time off has helped him gain some arm strength back.
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pleasantlyny
Addie, Carole, Cynthia & Denise, for you we fight
07:34 PM on 10/09/2011
Nice reasonable comments.... I guess the "spolied thug that feels entitled" comments are on the way....
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Meerkatx
10:08 AM on 10/07/2011
I tend to be a avid fan of the team that takes a principled stand against players who hold out on contracts they agreed to. I understand that often contracts in the NFL are one sided, but they are still contracts and I hold no respect for those who walk away from them or demand time and time again the contract be renegotiated. I lost my respect for many a player who I loved to watch, so thinking someone like Palmer is wrong is easy to do.
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Floridafish
Obama 2012
05:08 PM on 10/07/2011
Well, if you look at the other side of the coin, David Garrard was released while still under contract with the Jags. We've seen it over and over. Teams want bigger and better and they'll cut players who are under contract to make room for something else. If a player knows that today might be his last day with a team, why shouldn't he demsnded more when the team he's playing for will do the same thing to him. I think Palmer should get everything he can while he can. Teams don't care about contracts so why should players?
07:16 PM on 10/06/2011
In 1991 when Boomer wanted to be traded he went to Mike Brown and Brown told him "Give me one more year and let me draft your replacement..." The Bengals drafted David Klingler and traded Boomer the next off season. Palmer could have probably gotten the same deal but when you put a gun to Mike Brown's head you better have some bullets in the chamber. Carson was firing blanks.
08:57 AM on 10/06/2011
Good balanced view of this issue... refreshing to see for a change.

MB is simply making a statement that will resonate loud and clear with present and future players entering into contract negotiations with him. That is: If you opt for a long term contract and the financial rewards that go with it, expect me to hold you to it.

Everything has a price, however. Some suggested during pre-season that MB was off his rocker for not trading CP. In doing so one actually suggested that Palmer could be worth 2 first-rounders. MB might be principled and rigid but you can bet that if any other team is delusional enough to offer anything close to that MB will accept it so fast it will make your head spin.

Current rumors suggest Dolphins offered a "3rd pick and possibly a conditional 2nd". Point is that other teams know that MB posturing is just that. There is a price at which he would pull the trigger. Problem for Palmer is he is not worth anywhere near that price. He is worth more to MB as a poster boy for players who have an inflated sense of self-importance. CP is not a bad guy. He simply overplayed his position and now it looks like he will pay a big price for it.