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ChristieWatch: Is NJ's Big Man Getting Ready to Say 'Yes?' Why 2012 Makes More Sense Than '16

Posted: 10/02/11 04:52 PM ET

It's another day of ChristieWatch, and another day of "will he or won't he?" New Jersey governor Chris Christie, the larger-than-life Republican who's literally being begged by GOP leaders to enter the 2012 presidential election and save the party from Rick Perry and Mitt Romney, told a local crowd Friday that while his state may have problems, the country has even bigger issues to contend with, hinting that America might benefit from his services more than his home state. And several people close to Christie confirm that he's reversed his position and is now seriously considering running.

I've been saying for months now and I will keep insisting that Christie will toss his hat into the ring, and maybe even early this week. And given the weak economy; high unemployment; Obama's plummeting popularity among blue collar whites, Hispanics and seniors; Rick Perry's implosion; and a general disdain for Mitt Romney, the timing could never be better for him.

The conventional wisdom is that Christie's sitting this one out and is instead waiting for 2016. But that election could be a lot more difficult for Christie, with the challenge summed up in two words: Jeb Bush. The popular former Florida governor and a member of the Bush dynasty, which gave us two presidents named George, is the party favorite and has patiently waited his turn, focusing on 2016 in an open battle for the Oval Office.

There are other factors that could make '16 much more difficult for Christie.
For one, the national economy could be in a significantly better place by then. Economies are cyclical, and it's more likely than not that we'll be in a solid recovery with 3-5% annual GDP growth, unemployment around 6%, a strong housing market and consumer confidence in the 80's, almost double what it is today.

Additionally, Christie won't be the star-dusted new kid on the block anymore. By then he'll be into his second term as governor with a meaningful track record to scrutinize, and it may not be pretty. Remember, Jersey's economy remains weak and suffers from higher unemployment than the national average at 9.5%. And Christie's got a very big, abrasive mouth that's gotten him into trouble. The next four years could be a public relations nightmare for him if he's not verbally disciplined.

If Christie's smart, he'll realize his time is now. He'll strike when the iron is hot, not when he prefers there be an iron. And, I'd bet dollars to donuts that his running mate will ultimately be Florida's junior Sen. Marco Rubio, a Tea Party rock star, highly popular among his fellow Hispanics and who hails from a critical swing state. In appealing to blue collar whites, seniors, Hispanics and independents, a Christie/Rubio ticket would be very formidable opposition to President Obama. And if things don't markedly improve in the economy, it very well could be a winning ticket.

So keep on eye on The Big Man. The political landscape will never be more fertile for him than it is now. And if he does run, Sarah Palin won't. She knows he'd eat her alive, and I suspect she's waiting for him to make his decision before she announces hers. If he doesn't run, I still think she will, taking on a weakened Perry and Michele Bachmann for the Tea Party vote.

 

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snesich
06:24 PM on 10/03/2011
Andy, aren't you a bit embarrassed, shamelessly backing Chris Christie---come on, don't deny the obvious---when you obviously know so little about him? (Or, you do, and you just don't want the rest of us to know.)

Do you know that Christie was only appointed US Attorney because of the prodigious fundraising he did for George W. Bush in 2000, helping him gain the White House? And did you know that Karl Rove personally engineered his "payback" appointment?

Do you know that Christie was the lawyer for one of Bernie Madoff's organizations a few years ago?

Do you know that Christie is being well-funded by a group of extremely wealthy, far-right interests, like the Koch Brothers, and he withdrew New Jersey from the regional commitment to reduce global warming after meeting with David Koch privately?

I could go on and on and on...but I think you should do your homework on just the above three points and then tell me if you think Christie would be such a "good candidate". Don't say that no one pointed any of this out to you earlier.
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Andy Ostroy
08:29 PM on 10/03/2011
Really? Are you serious? And are you done with your little tirade! Go back and re-read my post, as I think there's a bit of comprehension issue happening here. I am neither a Christie fan or a "backer." You show your true ignorance when you make such outlandish claims. I am believing he will run, and as compared to the rest of the pack, he's a very viable GOP candidate and IMO would win the nomination handily. Which is why everyone from Nancy Reagan, Kissinger and George HW Bush, let alone the GOP leadership, is begging him to run. Get real.
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stevestrange
Wild like rock stars...Who smash guitars.
11:09 AM on 10/03/2011
There were reasonable valid points in this article about why Christie should run...The thing is, I don't see the republican primary crowd as all that reasonable..Or forgiving. They have alot of litmus tests a candidate has to pass..And I'm not sure Christie is conservative enough for them..But who knows? Maybe they'll accept Christie if he attacks president Obama in a tough enough fashion for them..Obama bashing seems to take you far with that crowd.
one09flat04
Octogenarian
11:07 AM on 10/03/2011
Chris Christie was a supporter of the Bush-Cheney gang that lied us into war, killed 6000 American troops sufferd the worst domestic attack on 9/11 and turned the American economy into a third world status! Who did you say supports Christie? Roland C. Woodaka
10:26 AM on 10/03/2011
No way the economy is going to improve without another bubble.
Don't even think we have hit bottom yet. Obama will apply bandaids and the right will raid the safety net.
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Andy Ostroy
10:39 AM on 10/03/2011
News out this morning: "U.S. factory activity expanded at a faster pace than expected in September as production and hiring increased, the latest sign of resilience in manufacturing despite faltering economic growth."

Economy is definitely recovering, whether you look at GDP, job growth, manufacturing, consumer confidence, housing, etc. But of course, I'm sure none of these little factoids fit your partisan narrative. Fortunately, we have recovery despite no help whatsoever from your party.
one09flat04
Octogenarian
11:19 AM on 10/03/2011
News out this morning: "U.S. factory activity expanded at a faster pace than expected in September as production and hiring increased, the latest sign of resilience in manufactur­ing despite faltering economic growth." Chris Christie was a supporter of the Bush-Chene­y gang that lied us into war, killed 6000 American troops sufferd the worst domestic attack on 9/11 and turned the American economy into a third world status! Who did you say supports Christie? RCW
08:52 AM on 10/03/2011
Great. More clowns for the circus.
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Fred M White
lead, follow or at least get out of the way
08:49 AM on 10/03/2011
Well the more the merrier so it seems though I don't see the attraction of a Christie candidacy. For those who see an outspoken, tell it like he see's it sort of guy, I've seen a bully, short of temper and unable to control his own mouth. One look at his cut taxes for the rich while cutting aid to education puts him right in the same camp of the rest of his 2010 elected republicon governors. He's following the Koch brothers screw the working man/woman template right along with Kasich, Scott and the rest of these wingers...
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yweston
Wild Wild "Proud to Be a Progressive" West
07:04 AM on 10/03/2011
It's amazing...to be a Republican Presidential candidate all you need is a "Big Mouth" and nasty attitude. Christie has a 9.4% Unemployment rate in N.J. and the state's credit rating was DownGraded from AA+ to AA- in August. He can't even get N.J. under control and because he "talks tough"...and no one actually "fact checks" his claims (many are NOT True) just looks good on his YouTube channel. People on the right "love him". Doesn't matter that he has high unemployment and a Down Grade....but these things are paramount in their minds when it comes to Pres Obama. And the National unemployment rate is "lower" than Christies. Plus his poll numbers are dropping in N.J. "Wonder Why"?
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Wallysmom
What Washington needs is adult supervision.
06:46 AM on 10/03/2011
The exact reasons for Christie getting in, are exactly why he shouldn't. 
While the Republicans tear into Obama for being in over his head, not calling up Congressional Republicans on day one and not having enough experience, they see it differently when it's one of their own. It isn't. Christie has only been Governor for 2 years and there is that Bernie Madoff connection. Even his state legislators say he's a lot of talk when it comes to talking with the "other side".
03:51 AM on 10/03/2011
Nobody should be able to run for office while occupying another public office. You cannot do your job while out campaigning. It just ain't right.
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gevan
the pilgrim has landed
04:52 AM on 10/03/2011
Does Rick Perry know that?
11:27 AM on 10/03/2011
Rick Perry apparently knows very little.
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Paul Abrams
02:27 AM on 10/03/2011
None of the Republican candidates has even a spinnable case for foreign policy experience...with the exception of Huntsman. Christie is near the bottom of the pile on that. At least Obama was on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Hillary had been around for several initiatives while First Lady and was on Armed Services as a Senator. Biden and Richardson had vast foreign policy credentials.
This crowd is very similar to the nativist Republican electorate that seems to think all those "out there" are inferior and don't matter.
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Steelsil
Alan Grayson for President!
01:39 AM on 10/03/2011
New Jersey Republican Governor Chris Christie take note: USA TODAY thinks climate deniers and 'birthers' have a lot in common. "One way to deal with a problem is to pretend it doesn't exist. This approach has the virtue of relieving you from having to come up with a solution, spend money or make tough choices. The downside, of course, is that leaky faucets and other problems rarely solve themselves and, in fact, usually get worse if ignored.
Zip Zinzel
If a Nation expects to be both Ignorant & Free . .
07:23 AM on 10/03/2011
GREAT POST!
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Andy Ostroy
07:29 AM on 10/03/2011
Christie's position on global warming/climate change is not what you think. It's actually pretty moderate and supportive
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snesich
06:28 PM on 10/03/2011
Then why did he do the bidding of the Koch Brothers and other big energy interests and comply with their demands that he withdraw New Jersey from the regional plans to reduce global warming, a few months back?

Did you ever hear of "Actions Speak Louder Than Words?"
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zachviking
you took my joy.. I want it back
12:00 AM on 10/03/2011
I think Mr. Ostroy is correct. This is the best time for Christie to strike. He is unpopular in NJ and probably won't be re-elected. Its hard to run as a candidate thats lost his last race. Second, the current GOP field is weak. Third, if he does not run, he may be looking at 2020, if the GOP candidate wins in 2012. Fourth, he will have more serious competition by then. we'll see if the Bush name is still mud by then. Aside from Jeb, rising GOP stars, Jindal, Nikki Haley, and Mitch Daniels may be looking to take a shot at the title.
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Wallysmom
What Washington needs is adult supervision.
06:49 AM on 10/03/2011
He'd wipe out Jindal, Haley and Daniels.
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zachviking
you took my joy.. I want it back
04:02 PM on 10/03/2011
He may be a better campaigner than those people. But they have better credentials with the conservative base, especially in social issues where Christie would have some problems. Plus, if he were to lose re-election for governor (which is a real possibility given his poll numbers), it would be tough for him to make a case that he should be Governor after losing. Jindal, Haley, and Daniels will have easy re-election bids.
11:56 PM on 10/02/2011
Isn't there anything else you could write about?

Seriously, this guy isn't budging. Please stop wasting your/our time with this drivel, and start paying attention to things that actually matter. I'm certain there is a ton of history for the current crop of GOP contenders to research and report.

/rant
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Andy Ostroy
07:30 AM on 10/03/2011
Um, you can always skip over my meaningless drivel, ya know....
11:39 PM on 10/02/2011
Christie has not even a prayer of being elected, no matter what the media columnists say. And how's he going to get around the fact that he has stated--REPEATEDLY--that he's "not ready" to be President? The guy is a schoolyard bully. And not very smart.

And Jeb Bush? You've got to be kidding. If this country votes for a third Bush, we're over.
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kemstone
Just another opinionated nobody.
10:31 PM on 10/02/2011
Well argued but wrong on two counts. 1- The "getting" is not "hot" for Christie right now. When it comes to social issues, he's far too liberal for the Republican base (i.e. center-right) and he'd fizzle out faster than Perry. 2- There is no way Sarah Palin is going to run for president. All she wants is money and attention without having to do actual WORK, and running a campaign would be too much hassle, not to mention the damage it would do to her brand after being crushed at the polls.
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Andy Ostroy
07:31 AM on 10/03/2011
Are you kidding? Do you think the majority of Repubs who go into the voting booth are not moderate? Why do you think the GOP leadership is kissing Christie's ass so much, because they;re too stupid to know a Michele Bachmann or Rick Perry is their ticket to the White House!?
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snesich
06:34 PM on 10/03/2011
The majority of Republicans aren't "moderate". Not by a long shot. Why would a "moderate" join the Republican party anyway? They haven't been moderate since the days of Rockefeller, Scranton, Javits and Mathias...and that was a long, long, long, long, long time ago...

The modern Republicans are EXTREMELY conservative. But, most of them are pragmatic and smart enough to realize that they can't ultimately elect their "dreamboat boyfriend" who is "free, cool, and independent". That won't fly with "the parents", i.e. the general electorate. So, ultimately, they marry the nerdy accountant who can give them the nice house in the suburbs and private schools for the kids...while they close their eyes, in bed at night, and think of someone else...
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kemstone
Just another opinionated nobody.
06:47 PM on 10/03/2011
I hope you're right about there being some kind of "silent majority" of moderate Republican voters, but you wouldn't know it by watching Fox News or listening to conservative talk. Just look at how they ripped Rick Perry to shreds just for suggesting that a child of illegal immigrants who does well in school ought to have the same chance at going to college as everyone else.