More

Featuring fresh takes and real-time analysis from HuffPost's signature lineup of contributors
Andy Ostroy

GET UPDATES FROM Andy Ostroy

Jon Stewart Is Definitely A Comedian; Chris Wallace Admits Fox's Bias

Posted: 06/21/11 11:15 AM ET

In the wake of the now-famous televised showdown between Jon Stewart and Chris Wallace Sunday morning there's lots of chatter from pundits on both the left and right that Stewart, as Wallace charged, is dodging his true role as a 'journalist.' To paraphrase Stewart from the interview, anyone who believes this ridiculous assertion is "insane."

I'm not exactly sure where all the confusion lies. Stewart was a stand-up comic for years and now has a comedy show. On "Comedy Central." And like many a legendary humorist before him -- Mark Twain, Will Rogers, Mort Sahl, George Carlin and Lenny Bruce to name a few -- his material consists of politics, politicians and American culture. You will never see anything on The Daily Show, Stewart's nightly program, that is delivered with a serious tone. You will never see Stewart himself analyze and comment on anything unless his set-ups have wickedly funny punchlines. He's a satirist. And probably the best there ever was. But that's all he is. To paraphrase the late Texas Sen. Lloyd Bentsen's famous smackdown of Sen. Dan Quayle in their 1988 vice presidential debate, "Mr. Stewart, I know journalism. I studied journalism for many years. I have a journalism degree. Mr. Stewart, you're no journalist."

It's pretty sad when, as Rogers said, "People are taking their comedians seriously and the politicians as a joke." A society which considers Stewart and people like Bill O'Reilly "journalists" is a society that's in deep trouble. To label Stewart a journalist is offensive to journalists and non-journalists alike. I don't get my news from Stewart. I save that for the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, MSNBC, The Huffington Post and other outlets. I watch Stewart for the same reason I watched/watch Johnny Carson, David Letterman, Carlin and a zillion other comics: to get a biting, funny take on the day's news. Because Stewart makes us laugh about the news doesn't make him a newsman. That he makes us laugh about politics doesn't make him a political activist. He's simply doing his job as a comedian.

Now on the other hand, as Stewart pointed out to Wallace, there are millions of very "misinformed" people who watch Fox News and actually think they're watching an objective news network. They listen to people like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and think they're getting the truth. They're not. In an astounding admission of his network's true bias, Wallace, while discussing other networks with Stewart, said "I think we're the counterweight. I think that they have a liberal agenda, and I think we tell the other side of the story." Wow. So much for "fair and balanced."

Stewart is a true genius. But he's a comic genius. And without even being a true journalist he brilliantly managed to do what no one else has done: get Fox to admit that it's a politically biased television network. I bet Wallace didn't have that outcome in mind when he invited Stewart on his Fox "News" Sunday program.

 

Follow Andy Ostroy on Twitter: www.twitter.com/AndyOstroy

 
 
  • Comments
  • 493
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Highlights
Bloggers
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (9 total)
09:42 PM on 06/29/2011
I came to this posting for an example of the "GOTTCHA" journalistic approach attempting to obscure the central take-away of an event via verbal needle-threading worthy of your best undergraduate memories.
Got what I came for. Central take-away hardly remains, until you think this through.
photo
JoeHilley
NY Times Bestselling Author
10:21 AM on 06/29/2011
Chris Wallace should be glad Jon Stewart is talking about him. You can't buy publicity like this. They spelled his name correctly. Chris should be thankful.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Nell608
03:43 AM on 06/24/2011
Why does FOX invite Stewart? FOX folks probably don't like what Stewart says about them but they don't seem to understand what they're doing wrong. Chris Wallace said something about presenting "our side" which pretty much says the network's journalism integrity is compromised. FOX would avoid much of the criticism if its staff were up front about being a Republican news network; that would at least be honest.

The current "fair and balanced" slogan invites criticism and/or satire. So we need a Jon Stewart to help journalism and journalists maintain the highest standards.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
blknightowl
Independent, forced to vote a straight Dem ticket
06:28 AM on 06/23/2011
I agree. As a person who changes channels often and gets the "news" from many national and international sources, I can appreciate the genius of Jon Stewart, Kathy Griffin and a few other comedians. Most of them have their own stories of Fox News hosts and the clips to accompany them.

I should admit though, I don't watch Fox News. I see their clips, laugh my head off, and wait for the comedic talent to get to the punch line. When there is a punch line. Sometimes, just the clip will do.

Has anyone told those at Fox News that we're not laughing WITH them...?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Darwan Winkler
Where's the Jobs!
07:09 AM on 06/23/2011
Fox New is about to lose a wheel off their wagon soon.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
blknightowl
Independent, forced to vote a straight Dem ticket
02:47 PM on 06/23/2011
I know that needs to happen, but what will become of all of those gullible viewers? For their sake and for the sake of comedic relief, I hope not.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
DocJoseph
A bleeding heart will heal; a cold heart will not
02:47 PM on 06/24/2011
I watched Fox news a couple of times. I don't recommend it - it will likely make you upset, perhaps even nauseated.

One organization, I forget which, had the slogan, "We watch FOX news so you don't have to."

And that's kind of why I watch Stewart and Colbert et al.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
blknightowl
Independent, forced to vote a straight Dem ticket
05:01 PM on 06/24/2011
"We watch FOX news so you don't have to." I've read their site. Love it. Cannot for the life of this old brain remember the name of it.

We need humor and comedians in this day and age, especially with the advent of Fox.

f/f
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Tazzie
11:24 PM on 06/22/2011
I get my news from mulitple sources, that's why I find Jon Stewart and The Daily Show hilarious.
10:14 PM on 06/22/2011
It's not hard to figure that Fox News is unfair and unbalanced when it employs half a dozen potential Republican candidates for president. What other news agency would even think about doing that?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Vic22
"I write to make it right, don't like what I see"
05:13 PM on 06/22/2011
I feel like, whether it be politics, or just every day life, great comedians are the ones that are able to call attention to the absurdities that surround us. The more grounded in truth they are, the more poignant their message
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ceez
Your micro-bio is empty
11:51 AM on 06/22/2011
you can expose fox and friends for what they are but the those hard righties will still believe everything they hear from them.
11:42 AM on 06/22/2011
I watch all three, MSNBC, CNN and FOX. Forget the personalities, Blitzer, King, Anderson, Maddow, Matthews , Odonnell, O'reilly, Hanity and Beck and all three networks do report the news on somewhat a Fair and Balanced approach. The trouble with Stewart's assessement on Fox is he is evaluating the personalites and not the journalists. You could do the same at MSNBC.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
AdamWest1313
Hardcore Agnostic
11:37 PM on 06/22/2011
MSNBC doesn't claim to be fair or balanced. That slogan is what Stewart has a problem with.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
godivademaus
11:11 PM on 06/23/2011
No. Stewart pointed to (this part FAUX cut, but you can view it on Comedy Central) the fact that the FAUX news team gets marching orders. They start with a premise and work backward into the news from there. And, this lack of journalistic integrity shows in Fox's consistently low scores of it's viewers (in terms of being informed).

MSNBC, on the other hand, Stewart depicted as having viewed FAUX news business model, and is trying to present news articles that are of interest to a progressive audience (rather than to absolutely slant the news beyond the truth to make it palatable). I also believe that Stewart more or less said that MSNBC hadn't attained the proficiency in hack-dom that FAUX news network had, but they were certainly attempting to follow the business model.

The slogan isn't the "thing" that Stewart has a problem with. It's one of many things Stewart has a problem with and it's not limited to FAUX. I think it's funny that Wallace is now trying to spin this whole thing when, anyone can view the unedited version and clearly see what FAUX was attempting to do.
photo
HUFFPOST BLOGGER
Andy Ostroy
07:39 PM on 06/27/2011
Hannity and Beck report news in a "fair and balanced" way? Really? Seriously? Wow...
This comment has been removed due to violations of our [Guidelines]
10:03 AM on 06/22/2011
The difference between Stewart and Colbert and "Johnny Carson, David Letterman, Carlin and a zillion other comics" is that Stewart and Colbert focus mostly on politics, with Stewart's show in particular focusing almost entirely on politics. And they don't just tell jokes about the latest political headlines and the people that make them, they editorialize about them as well. In other words, in my humble opinion, they're bloggers - humorous left-leaning political bloggers whose comments and opinions are heard instead of read and whose blogs are half-hour shows on cable TV. And just like other blogs with a huge following, their shows are a strong and influential force in the realm that they're covering. People from all sides of the political spectrum acknowledge this power and influence. I just wish that one of these days Stewart and Colbert will acknowledge it too.
02:37 AM on 06/23/2011
Actually, I thought Stewart did admit as much in the interview when he said something along the lines of becoming a comedian because he wanted his voice heard. I think his point is that although his viewers will be influenced by his comedy, they do not expect him to be factual or impartial, whereas any organization billing itself as news IS claiming to be factual and impartial.
05:53 AM on 06/23/2011
We DO expect him to be factual, though. His and Colbert's shows expose lies and factual inaccuracies and point out the truth. That's how those shows made such names for themselves, why Stewart and Colbert are seen as more than just comedians, and why their work draws calls of journalism.
09:22 AM on 06/22/2011
is it a big deal if fox admits they are a biased network? we all know this already, how does their admission help? the fox sheeple will listen to fox lies anyways.
08:51 AM on 06/22/2011
Steward uses I am a comedian to cover up his bias. It is ok to push a progressive agenda if you are a comedian. I like to watch different news. Each has it liberals or conservative opinion shows. But the one that gives more of the news is fox. Wallace said as much. Steward cut his interviews with Paul. He cut a lot of interview to make his progressive point but cuts anything that goes against his agenda that is fact base or shows his bias.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Hopster1
09:18 AM on 06/22/2011
To steal from Jon Stewart, "You're Insane!" Where was Jon Stewart's bias on the Anthony Weiner scandal? Where was his bias when he slammed Obama for Guantanamo still being open? Where was his bias when he ripped the adminstration for staying in Afghanistan? Also, Jon Stewart has repeatedly told his viewers to go on-line to see the FULL interviews of people like Ron Paul and does so because he has to cutoff his interiviews because of time constraints on his 30 munite show.

In typical FOX News style just because YOU claim Jon Stewart uses I am a comedian to cover up his bias doesn't make it so. Especially when there is a mountain of evidence to the contrary.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
NamSpurs
01:02 PM on 06/22/2011
As Jon Stewart pointed out...you are one of the "misinformed" fox viewers.
08:47 AM on 06/22/2011
I love Jon Stewart and the Daily Show, but I must disagree with some of what you said. It may be have been hyperbolic, but you stated, "You will never see Stewart himself analyze and comment on anything unless his set-ups have wickedly funny punchlines. He's a satirist. And probably the best there ever was. But that's all he is." Jon took a very impassioned stance on the 9/11 First Responders' Bill, even going as far as to have on some ill first responders' as a panel.

Further, yes, Stewart's sketches and bits ultimate point is comedy and satire first, but his political interviews are, in my opinion, first rate (Obama interview, notwithstanding. Not one of my fav's.) His ability to have a civilized discussion with people with whom he disagrees, to be able to debate their points without shouting at one another, is not only better and and more dignified than the evening talking heads (Matthews, Hannity, etc) but is on par with the quality of the Sunday morning interviews (Scheiffer, Russert, etc).
08:21 AM on 06/22/2011
Sorry Andy. When you get your news from a comedian, you are going to end up looking like a joke. The opposite of having a liberal agenda is not having a liberal agenda. Stewart is crowing that he got Wallace to admit Fox News has a political bias. He's lying. But Stewart is a comedian. What's your excuse? Whether or not you believe Fox News has a political bias, you must admit that you are misrepresenting Wallace when you claim Stewart was able to "get Fox to admit that it's a politically biased television network." Think about it. If one side of the story is "liberally biased" then the "other side of the story" includes everything that isn't liberally biased. You assume that means a conservative bias (because of your own bias) - but Wallace's actual words include the possibility he meant Fox tells the unbiased story.
photo
AspenPinetree
Never wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and o
08:31 AM on 06/22/2011
Is that you Chris?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Hopster1
09:30 AM on 06/22/2011
Umm, Stewart isn't doing the crowing, it is other people. Also, you are mincing words. The very reason there is the idea of a liberal bias is because FOX News CREATED the idea to validate their existence and to allow them the ability to be CONSERVATIVE BIASED.

It was the FIRST LIE FOX NEWS created and they used the "If you say a lie enough times it becomes the truth" method. It worked so good that they keep doing it.

And please, the "possibility" he meant Fox tells the unbiased story? If you believe that then I got some nice Florida oceanfront property for you.
11:23 AM on 06/22/2011
Sorry you missed Stewart crowing, but I assure you he did. Google it. Separately, I'm not arguing about whether or not Fox has a bias. I'm simply pointing out that Wallace's words are being misquoted and misrepresented here and elsewhere. Basic fairness you know...telling the other side of the story.
01:56 PM on 06/23/2011
"The very reason there is the idea of a liberal bias is because FOX News CREATED the idea..." ? Not even close. Liberal media bias has been debated publicly for decades. For example, the publication of The Media Elite back in 1986 raised a lot of eyebrows by pointing out the majority of journalists surveyed voted for Democrats. Fox News didn't even come into existence until the mid 90s (1996 I think). Fox has definitely capitalized on the idea, but they didn't create it.