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Not Everyone in the 1% Deserves 'Occupy's' Scorn

Posted: 10/31/11 12:44 PM ET

I think its very dangerous, and quite frankly unfair, for the Occupy movement's "99%" to vilify the "1%" as if everyone who falls into that elite income group is (a) corrupt (b) greedy (c) selfish and (d) insensitive and indifferent to the needs and struggles of the poor and middles classes.

Let's get something straight: America is a capitalist nation. Our economic structure is such that there are going to be extremely wealthy people and a helluva lot more who aren't. Those who don't like this system are free to move to another country like North Korea where everyone is piss poor and living under a brutal dictatorship. America's problems aren't about rich vs. poor per se, but about those who care vs those who don't.

The Occupy protesters, in summarily indicting as evil everyone in the 1%, are doing a major disservice to the movement and their long-term cause. At the risk of sounding like a conservative, this broad stroke demonizing of everyone who's rich is class warfare and it needs to stop. There are plenty of kind, decent, generous, very wealthy people who also happen to care about the poor, the sick, the needy, the less fortunate. People who donate millions from their incomes annually to fund all sorts of social, health, education, environmental and child welfare programs, and whose money also goes to political organizations to fight for the little guy. People who've spent a lifetime in public service trying to make things better for those who need help. People who could've financially enriched themselves in the private sector but instead chose meager government salaries. George Soros is in the 1%. The Kennedys are in the 1%. Nancy Pelosi is in the 1% as are Alec Baldwin, Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn, George Clooney and all the notorious "Hollywood liberals" who are as bleeding-heart as you can get. Their wealth has not stopped them from giving a shit. To the contrary, it's provided valuable resources and a greater platform through which to help. These people are among the best friends and benefactors the poor and middle class will ever have. So it's terribly misguided and counter-intuitive to lump them in the same bucket as the self-serving cads who only care about lower taxes, less regulation and protecting corporate largess.

To be sure, there are many gross inequities in America's economic system which have justifiably been the focus of the Occupy protests. The income gap between the rich and poor is the highest in 80 years. The wealthiest 1% have seen their incomes increase 281% since 1979 while the poor and middle class have earned just 16-25% more. The CEO-to-worker pay ratio is around 350-1. Corporate America has been rewarded with astounding tax breaks while shipping millions of jobs overseas. And no one on Wall Street has yet to be penalized for creating the worst financial crisis in 85 years.

But that does not justify an across-the-board vilification of everyone in the 1%. There's nothing inherently wrong with being rich in America. What's wrong is when you use this wealth to disenfranchise and subjugate those who aren't. There are certainly plenty of legitimate gripes the Occupy protesters can and should be angry about. But it would be very wise not to alienate the very rich, connected and influential people who are among its biggest supporters and who it will need in the weeks and months to come.

 

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03:53 AM on 11/03/2011
Edit those out Andy... there's a couple of them for your displeasure
03:48 AM on 11/03/2011
This guy has a classic complex... something along the lines of knowing what's best for those "beneath" him yet still being "among" them. He's read too much Shakespeare.
03:38 AM on 11/03/2011
Be careful how you want to argue with this guy... he has the capacity to "direct" the dialogue how he sees fit.
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07:57 AM on 11/02/2011
Andy Ostroy writes:
"There's nothing inherently wrong with being rich in America. What's wrong is when you use this wealth to disenfranchise and subjugate those who aren't."
Exactly, Andy. BTW, that is the core issue of every OWS complaint. Thanks for agreeing with us.
You understand, as we do, that wealth = power = control. Every decision that affects our lives is made by someone in power who is either wealthy or controlled by wealthy interests. Every single one.
Our lives are not much different than a Serfs existence, where the Lords make all decisions.
One decision the Lords will never make is to surrender their power and control. They believe their wealth justifies their Lordliness. So they will ooze out just enough trickles to occasionally dampen the masses, but that's it.
And it's really good to know that you get that, Andy. Because it makes no sense for a national protest movement to focus on this wealthy person, or that one. That would diffuse the message that there are only two economic classes...the Lords and the Serfs. So very sensibly, we focus on that. It's called Targeted Messaging. We learned that from the Lords.
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SocratesSiddhartha
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02:49 AM on 11/02/2011
Got to give it to you Andy you are perfectly in sync with FOX news(-iness)'s via your "vilification of everyone in the 1%".
You should be proud to be mirroring their party line, stay classy.
12:54 PM on 11/01/2011
I think the reference to North Korea is a little extreme. Putting controls or constraints on capitalism (or "the market") is not socialism.
Given that "the market" is nothing more than people, the market (left to its own devices) will often reflect the worst in human behavior. Why? Because it only takes a few. If a few do it, the rest will follow (or lose market share).
The recent real estate fiasco is a good example.
Fannie/Freddie didn't start the real estate fiasco. They didn't need to. As a GSE (government sponsored enterprise), Fannie/Freddie were thought to have the backing of the US government. They were the "gold standard" for investors. But Wall Street wanted a share of that huge $4 trillion real estate secondary market (mortgage securitization), and they couldn't offer a government "backstop" like Fannie/Freddie. So how to gain share? Well, they worked with shady loan originators to entice homeowners with lower rates and standards. (Fannie used to have fairly strict loan origination requirements.) And then they sliced and diced the loans into "tranches" (don't even ask). And paid off rating agencies to convert the tranched securities into AAA-rated investments.
As Fannie/Freddie started losing market share, they loosened their standards and started to copy Wall Street. They went big on making Alt A (no doc) loans.
This is the way the market works
Does anyone really think this is good for the 99%?
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12:10 PM on 11/01/2011
Its not how much money the so-called 1% has that is the core of the problem, it's how they got it and how they use it. And for the writer of this article to try to narrow the question down to this is another disservice to the American people that even bother to think about what is causing the destruction of this country. It's called the 1% because it has to be called something. And the majority of that 1% certainly does NOT use it for the good of the country. And I personally don't consider people that use their wealth giving a little of it back to the people that made them wealthy in the first place as being 1%. But sadly, the people that really give back is much less than 1% of the 1%.
12:05 PM on 11/01/2011
I didn't get the impression that OWS was vilifying the 1%. I think their point is to promote the rights of the 99%.
08:58 AM on 11/01/2011
Who are the 1%? In general, when we malign the 1%, we are referring to what Marx called the "Rentier Class". This class is made up of those who's income is based on a large amount of profit-income generated from property income, and received as interest, intellectual property rights, rents, dividends, fees or capital gains. This does not include the majority of the lower wealthy or upper middle class, only the top 1%, because it is the top 1% that holds the majority of the worlds wealth, and the property they own is that of nations natural reasources and major industries. When you hear "bring an end to the minimum wage." or "Increasing the minimum wage would hurt the economy." or "Child labor laws are too strict." or "Bring an end to EPA regulations, they're hurting job creation." you are hearing the true intentions of the Rentier class. They have invaded our government, and turned it against us. They are disolving our social safety nets, and our middle class. They are pricing education out of the reach of the poor, working, and middle class. They are NOT CREATING JOBS...not because they Can't, but because they have found that they can keep more profit, deliver substandard goods, and all with less people doing the labor! The OWS movement is not Anti-Capitalism, nor is it Anti-Corproation. It is Anti-Corporate Greed!!
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02:22 PM on 11/01/2011
No one wants to malign those who use their profits to grow their companies (and make more money) in this country. The problems are those who take those profits and hire outside our country, create more profits, and never give back to the country that allowed them to make all that money. All along, they take advantage of tax breaks, exemptions, credits...anything they can do to suckle off of the taxpayer teet.
08:22 AM on 11/01/2011
I like what you had to say until you decided that progressive rich are good guys will conservative rich are bad guys. Soros is one of the largest supporters of socialism and/or marxism in the world. The conservative rich donate as much as the progressive rich. The problem is progressive want more government control and conservatives want less. You can demonize and glorify the rich because they agree or disagree with your agenda. All the people you named picked where they donate, as do the other rich. One is good ands the other is evil depending upon your agenda. All should have the same choice to donate where they choose not where the government decides they will donate.
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07:57 AM on 11/01/2011
So its OK to be a rich Liberal, but not a rich Conservative? If you give away most of your ill gotten gains to politically correct causes you are taken off the hot seat. Georgo Soros is a hero, but the Koch brothers are villains.

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. The Marquis de Lafayette, who was one of the first French aristocrats to call for Republican changes to Louis XVI's government, was also one of the first sent to the guillotine.

Class warfare is class warfare no matter how it is depicted.
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12:12 PM on 11/01/2011
Lafayette was not sent to the guillotine. He died of complications after pneumonia in 1834.

As you say, those who do not know history, . . .
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12:25 PM on 11/01/2011
Mea Culpa. Please excuse the faulty memory. Lafayette was tried, convicted, sentenced and imprisoned as a Royalist, but not actually sent to the guillotine. He was released by Napoleon in 1797.

The point being that revolutions tend to eat their own eventually.
03:39 AM on 11/01/2011
I totally agree with this. There are many super-rich Americans who heavily invest their time and money in philanthropy. Ironically, many of them are icons of the Left - Bill and Melinda Gates, Warren Buffet, et al - who leave their extremely lucrative and profitable careers in the private sector to focus on helping those that need help, so I think it is unfortunate that OWS is often creating more a perception of war against the upper-class rather than war against cronyism, which is what I know it is really about. Arbitrary assaults on "the rich" Could serve only to demonize those that can benefit the movement the most. It is the crooks who should be demonized along with their pals in Washington who facilitate the theft through crony-capitalism, and not all - maybe not even most - of the rich are crooks.
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02:14 PM on 11/01/2011
It is mainly people on the right or people that haven't taken the see OWS as an assault on ALL of the 1% AND people like ANDY that perpetuate that falsehood. The 99% just want the all of 1% to play by the same rules as everyone else. Steve Jobs was not a philanthropist but he made things that people wanted. He didn't make his money selling junk securities and betting against what he sold to people as AAA products. Would you like the "slogan" to be "We are the Honest citizens" "Hang the Crooks & Liars"? It's not as catchy.
03:24 AM on 11/01/2011
Thanks mom...can I have a cookie.
12:45 AM on 11/01/2011
The greedy are being vilified. A corrupt system that benefits only 1% of the country is being vilified. If you're not being greedy and and arent corrupting the system then you're not being vilified. I don't think the movement would object to adding a few significant figures to their title either. If you're not part of the problem, and it doesn't seem like you are, then why not become part of the solution?

While we're on the subject of vilification, why is it ok for the whole movement to be vilified over the actions of relatively few?
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07:51 AM on 11/01/2011
I'm not sure what protests/demonstrations you've been witnessing, but have you gone down to any of the sites? The overriding message/theme at all of them is that the rich capitalism and corporations are 100% evil. While I agree there are major inequities and problems, this sort of broad stroke indictment of everyone NOT in the 99% is wrong.
12:01 PM on 11/01/2011
So you're saying you've gone to every protest everywhere and polled every one of the protesters? Do "100% of the protesters" specifically state that "100% of rich and corporations are evil" or are you just extrapolating because they don't have footnotes on their placards itemizing which ones aren't evil? You're painting the protesters with a pretty broad stroke yourself and you're generalizing just like they are.

And I do actually think our "capitalist" system is corrupted, broken, needs reformed, and is the source of many of the major inequities and problems afoot today. In a real "capitalist" system, we would have hundreds of suits in jail with major banks and investment firms bankrupt or FDIC owned; instead they got bailouts and bonus checks and the protesters are going to jail.

None of this means that all of the businesses and individuals within the system are evil but the ones working the system and defending the status-quo are.
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12:42 AM on 11/01/2011
"What's wrong is when you use this wealth to disenfranchise and subjugate those who aren't." Exactly. And the #OWS movement is not against the rich. It is against the policies which allow corporations to exert undue influence over legislative policy, move jobs and money off-shore, lobby for massive deregulation to drive profits higher at the expense of our environment, play fast and loose with our investments, hike our banking fees, rate jack our credit cards w/o just cause, foreclose on our homes because they don't respond to loan modifications and short sale offers in a timely manner receive government support and bailouts and then sit on record profits while they slash employees and give themselves obscene bonuses. The Enron, WorldCom, Silverado, AIG, Goldman Sachs sagas have gone by for decades, largely unpunished and Americans are furious when the solutions offered to fix our economy is to cut social programs.
You are correct in stating that there are many of the nation's wealthy who are generous and concerned citizens and no one is going after them. So far I haven't heard Pelosi, Penn, Clooney or the Kennedys griping about being held hostage by the 99%.
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Andy Ostroy
07:53 AM on 11/01/2011
Jeez, your post is exactly the problem. That last sentence says it all. So much hostile and resentment of the rich by this movement. Thanks for proving my point.
09:35 AM on 11/01/2011
Actually I don't think she proved your point at all; in fact she refuted it quite ably. The OWS movement, such as it is, is clearly understood by anyone who has anything to do with it, to be about the greed of the Wall St financiers and the richest of the rich who directly caused the economy to collapse and then sucked the marrow out of the corpse. None of the wealthy who you named in your article remotely fit the description. The movement IS called Occupy WALL STREET, not hate the rich.
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12:47 PM on 11/01/2011
No, she refuted your argument and earned a F&F in the process.