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India's Thorium-Fuelled Dreams

Posted: 06/11/2012 2:24 pm

Thorium is to nuclear power what the fifth Beatle was to pop music. It's the nuclear fuel that showed glorious promise in the early days of atomic energy but somehow, somewhere along the way, got forgotten.

I first learned about India's plans to revive thorium power in 2009 when I started writing Geek Nation, a book that explores India's apparent ambitions to become a scientific superpower. I was given rare access to the sprawling hub for the country's civilian nuclear program, the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre, not far from Bombay. Research into thorium-fuelled reactors has been happening on this site since 1955 (a fact made obvious by the feeling of stepping into a time-warp when you pass through the security barriers) and is finally approaching its zenith. It's a project that encapsulates India's dreams to become a global technological leader.

Thorium is the original nuclear fuel. It powered the world's first full-scale atomic power station, built in 1954 in Shippingport in Pennsylvania. And at the time, it seemed ideal: more energy is released by thorium than by the same amount of uranium fuel, which means it creates less waste. It also has fewer long-lived waste elements, which don't need to be stored under such tight conditions or for so long. But after Shippingport was proven to work, uranium became the favored nuclear fuel instead, partly because the properties of thorium meant it couldn't be refined to make weapons.

Today, as the availability and price of uranium becomes a possible barrier to the growth of nuclear power and as nations begin the search for cleaner and safer fuels, thorium is making a comeback, with India leading the way.

"In India, the supply of thorium is at least eight times that of uranium," I was told by Dr. Ratan Kumar Sinha, the director of the reactor design and development group at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre. Indeed, there are millions of tons of monazite -- the ore from which thorium is extracted -- lying on Indian beaches. His team is now working on an Advanced Heavy Water Reactor, powered by thorium, designed to have a lifespan of a hundred years. It is slated to be up and running within the next couple of years. And if it's successful, the government plans to roll it out as one of India's next-generation power sources.

But these thorium reactors represent something more than simply India's ambitions to expand its energy infrastructure. Like China, this nation of geeks is building a formidable expertise in indigenous nuclear technology.

According to the World Nuclear Association, India wants to supply a quarter of its electricity from nuclear power by 2050, up from around three percent now. Sinha's hope is that it might eventually supply half. The civilian nuclear power program also has one eye on the export market -- selling smaller nuclear reactors to developing nations that are desperate for more carbon-free energy.

The country's space program is another example of India's long-term thinking when it comes to science and engineering. Launched in the same year as NASA's first moon landings, the Indian Space Research Organization has gone from a modest satellite-launching project to sending a probe to the moon in 2008. Now, it is planning its first manned mission. G. Madhavan Nair, a rocket scientist and the Indian Space Research Organisation's former Chairman, told me in 2010, "The presence of man in the outer space is going to be one of the major requirements for the future space community." Another veteran space scientist suggested to me that India might also one day need to mine resources on other planets.

It's easy to be skeptical about the achievements of Indian scientists. They haven't made nearly as much of a mark as the Chinese have, and in terms of patents and publications, they still lag behind Europe, the U.S., Australia and Japan. But by the end of my research for Geek Nation, it became clear that this was a nation planning for the far future. And not just any future: a technological one.

For all of the cheap generic pharmaceutical labs, unimaginative IT outsourcing companies and charges of mediocrity against Indian scientific institutions over the last two decades, there is a growing resolve to invest in the long-term growth of science and technology. The government is building hundreds of new universities and engineering colleges, with the aim of more than doubling student numbers. There are also plans for a $250 million neutrino observatory, which would boost India's international standing in particle physics.

Yet no story quite captures India's remarkable power to think long-term quite like that of thorium. Quietly researching this fuel for decades, Indian scientists have waited for just the right moment to build their first thorium-powered nuclear reactor. If the rest of the world believes India to be a sleeping elephant that is finally rising, then this tale reveals just how much more there will be to see when the elephant is fully awake.

There is a quote that Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has borrowed twice from the legendary wartime British Prime Minister, Winston Churchill (both times in speeches to the Indian Science Congress, the nation's biggest annual science meet), which sums up his country's ambitions quite neatly: "The empires of the future are going to be the empires of the mind."

 
 
 
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12:17 PM on 07/02/2012
The greatest failure of humanity: the opinion. The comments on this page are mostly exhibits of this.

Guys, gals, people abroad - effective policy is found through measurement, not thought up. It takes a nation of brilliant researchers to figure out firstly what a brilliant energy policy should look like. Then, the technologies that will best accomplish the desired task need long-term research to develop - the kind of research that only national research programs will choose to undertake.

Science is a process of finding answers that reflect reality. It uses the scientific method to counteract public and personal biases, in the search of one thing: the truth. India will be among the first of the nations to implement the scientific political process to solve the problems that the free market has no hope of getting around to doing. Energy independence, energy economics, and energy local and global effects are only among the first of many issues that will be handed into the trusting hands of science.

India, continue boldly into the 21st century with the best of human values, leading your people with truth, and the power of unadulterated science to find that truth. We shall watch the dreams of your most brilliant people become the beautiful reality of tomorrow, and all of us in the scientifically deprived United States will watch with praise and regret, as we sluggishly realize the painful mistake we have made all of our nation's life.
09:59 PM on 06/25/2012
The Indian government first needs to set its priorities right. There is a lack of direction in policies which has slowed progress. To build '....empires of the mind' you need men with vision, which sadly seems to be lacking in the country.
10:41 AM on 06/18/2012
Hasn't anyone even considered the beneficial political implications?

If IRAN was using Thorium no one could complain !
02:02 PM on 06/15/2012
Looks like the nuclear apologists are all over this one!

:-)
02:15 AM on 06/20/2012
I wish you'd get informed and stop arguing based on incorrect information.

India's choice of reactors is based on its past experience, and based on maximizing its breeding ratio in order to boot up a self-sustainable fuel cycle. Once the fuel cycle is self-sustaining, then obviously India then has the room to switch to LFTR tech like Sorenson's designs. But everything first depends on getting that fuel cycle going first.
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SKSagar
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12:17 PM on 06/14/2012
I was there at the book launch of `Geek Nation` and bought one, duly signed by the author. I had not yet started reading it, but yesterday after reading this blog and some of the responses..I read the chapter on `Brain Power` - Nice..Articulate.. Informative - which deals with the subject in question.

I agree Thorium is a good choice and scientists and engineers in India seem to have developed a substantial expertise in its use. It has all the positives, except maybe one or two such as the requirement that it needs to be bombarded with subatomic particles until it decays into uranium-233. It has many plus points such as available in abundance, more release of energy for the the same quantity, dealing with wastes is nowhere as thorny as in a Uranium reactors, and above all safety.

Elsewhere in that Chapter the author has stated that the fear of nuclear apocalypse has been replaced by the fear of climate change. Here I do not agree, and in this context I support the use of Uranium reactors too and hope no more uranium goes towards nuclear Arsenals.
04:56 PM on 06/14/2012
"I agree Thorium is a good choice and scientists and engineers in India seem to have developed a substantial expertise in its use."

Based on what? A sixty year old reactor design that they are building?

None of the "pluses" amount to any economic advantage. All of the minuses add up to pretty much exactly the same risk that you have with uranium fueled reactors. The rest is basically the fanboys praising a technology that wasn't given a chance to blow up in real life because nobody has used it, yet.
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03:35 AM on 06/15/2012
As per my new formula based on past interactions with SJ which invariably ended reminding us of a certain play by Shakespeare:
@ SJ (and similar closed minds) :
Agreed… Be happy.
@ Others :
There is nothing `sixty year old` about it except the material – The Thorium idea - The design always takes care of the latest technology, developed in this case by the Indian Scientists, and now being taken seriously by Scientists from France , Japan and Canada.
If someone can say it is not economical… we must look into that someone`s calculations and check for errors.
As far as `risk` is concerned… It’s a question of taking care of it in design. Its there in every venture… What are Engineers there for?
I am not in the line, but I suppose if we require a continuous generation of energy at a predetermined constant level, we must begin at a slightly higher level and then apply controls in a way that the `multiplication factor` is always close to unity.
Even taking care of external forces is a measure of design…a proper assessment of these forces at their maxm.. How frequent …and consequently what should be the safety margins considering Importance factors etc.

@SJ again:
Best wishes
cosmicdart
paragon of paradigms
05:52 PM on 06/12/2012
I think that India should concentrate more on its space program than on nuclear reactors. With a space program they could build orbiting platforms that collect solar electrical energy that's converted to microwaves that are beamed to earth to operate power stations. It would only take one big bad nuclear power plant melt down to ditch India's entire nuclear power industry. The only nuclear energy source that they need is the Sun. The Sun is safe for it doesn't melt down. India should join with Japan and Germany to build solar platforms for them too.
12:31 AM on 06/13/2012
What happened to that moment of clarity on the other thread, cosmicdart? Already gone?
cosmicdart
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10:15 AM on 06/13/2012
I'm not saying that they shouldn't build thorium reactors, but rather that in time orbital solar energy platforms will most likely make nuclear reactors obsolete. If we could somehow skip the nuclear option for our future energy supply and go directly to solar that would save a great deal of money and reduce the danger of a nuclear environmental accidents. Technology for building solar platforms is advancing to a stage where it should be economically feasible although it's not there yet. Nuclear reactors are only temporary fixes. The Sun is the safest, and the only nuclear reactor that we'll ever need. India may have no choice but to build a few reactors so they should try to build them as safe as possible as they work towards a safe and clean solar future.
02:45 PM on 06/12/2012
As the old farm saying goes: "There's no substitute for human stupidity".

We were on track to eliminate combustion power by 2000 (and most global warming) in 1962...
http://tinyurl.com/6xgpkfa
But, Nixon fumbled it (12 min in here)... http://tinyurl.com/73p7ler

And the promise of Thorium power, especially in molten-salt reactors, is coming back, finally. Too late to avoid some real environmental tragedies, but that's how humans work...
http://ThoriumRemix.com/2011
http://tinyurl.com/8xmso5v
www.thoriumenergyalliance.com
www.itheo.org/articles/announcing-thec12-shanghai (be there Huff, or be square)
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03:21 AM on 06/13/2012
And then there was a tsunami wave, Fukushima happened and Germany decided to get rid of their nuclear reactors... and it works just fine for them. Meanwhile, we are spending $6 billion+ on a single new reactor complex, making it economically completely non-viable. If not for the government loan guarantees, nobody would invest in that piece of garbage.
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06:18 AM on 06/13/2012
Using Fossil Fuels is not just fine,
What is the carbon/toxic footprint legacy of solar/wind????
03:28 AM on 06/14/2012
Mr. Swift, consider that Fukushima reactor #6 is fine. Know why?
It's backup generators was placed above the tsunami level, as all the others should have been.

So talk about Fukushima is talk about the Japanese govt's lax regulation, land use and TEPCO's decades of cheating on designs. It's not talk about "nuclear power". Check the 17 Oct. 2011 New Yorker piece by Osnos to see in its last paragraph, the absurd negligence that allowed homes, businesses, LNG terminals & nukes to be built in known tsunami zones.

Today, they're retrofitting other reactors that might suffer such threats, and one utility is indeed pursuing Molten-salt reactors, which don't explode or need anyone to shut them down.

For the German political naivete or just lack of responsibility -- the ~50 megatons of new CO2 emissions to be caused by German nuke closures will, each year, cause more emissions than all the fuel burned by all the aircraft in all theatres, by all sides, in all the years of WWII. Now that's a real problem. An unnecessary one at that.
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09:44 AM on 06/12/2012
When India is no longer considered one of the most religious countries in the world and when they face the issue of over-population, then what they do can be taken seriously.
11:03 AM on 06/12/2012
^What an odd comment. Religion has nothing to do with anything in this article, and India's population growth rate is down over the last decade.
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06:27 AM on 06/12/2012
You know you've played WoW too much when you see the word "thorium" and immediately think about mining it in Un'Goro Crater and Silithus.

That silliness aside, I am anxious to see how thorium-fueled power works out. It would be nice to be able to have nuclear energy that's not so filthy and less capable of being used for aggression.
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11:25 AM on 06/12/2012
I was thinking Searing Gorge :P
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07:24 AM on 06/13/2012
Oh, that got changed in Cataclysm. Searing Gorge is now all mithril. And Dark Iron can only be mined in BRD and MC.
12:31 PM on 06/12/2012
Nuke ower is cleanest energy per kwh available by far and have nothing to do with nuke weapons.
11:20 AM on 06/13/2012
That's only true if you don't add in the externalized cost for cleanup. So far nobody has had to pay that cost.
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Cut on the bias
06:00 AM on 06/12/2012
Thorium reactors, the nuclear power industry version of bait and switch. Thorium needs uranium or plutonium to start and sustain the reaction. Thorium reactors claim to be able to "burn" nuclear wastes. So we end up with the same elements being used in the reactor. When you figure the carbon footprint of nuclear power, the mining , processing and transportation of fuel, is where the carbon is found. They like to only talk about the carbon footprint of the reactor itself, but without the support structures, no nuclear power can exist. We have true clean energy in solar and wind and wave power, why choose the over priced and hazardous thorium reactors?  Thorium is not an environmentally safe alternative type of nuclear energy, Norwegian report says - Bellona

Don't believe the spin on thorium being a greener nuclear option | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Health/Environment Issues Linked to the Nuclear Fuel Chain -- Section B

extensive greenhouse gases

India rejection of nuclear power.
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balamo
08:32 AM on 06/12/2012
well said! thanks for the critique!
12:13 PM on 06/12/2012
It's going to take an awful lot of windmills and solar panels...........

Solar and wind are diffuse......

It's like trying to use a bunch of little streams to make up for electricity that will no longer be generated from Niagra falls.........

I don't know what that is so difficult for some people to get.....

Solar is fine for a home..., but probably won't work for heavy industry.........
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01:10 PM on 06/12/2012
Go ask Germany how its working for them. They are 20 percent renewable today, 35 percent renewable by 2020 and 100 percent renewable by 2050. You obviously can't stand the concept of energy democratization where millions of homes and businesses are selling their excess renewable energy capacity into the grid over the internet in the future. Many parts of Europe are already heading this path away from top down centralized energy controlled by a few. If you want to know how this is already working, then read the Third Industrial Revolution by Jeremy Rifkin.
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
08:39 AM on 06/13/2012
Electricity works the same no matter where it is generated.
11:25 PM on 06/11/2012
They are just using a stolen Candu design. The Candu can burn thorium no problem but natural uranium fuel is much cheaper.
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10:22 PM on 06/12/2012
I am sure you are privy to all research from every country.
11:01 PM on 06/11/2012
As for the theoretical advantages of molten salt reactors... based on what I have read, India is building a heavy water moderated thorium reactor... which is a rather conventional design that has absolutely no advantages over modern uranium fueled plants.
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09:56 PM on 06/11/2012
While Shippingport did - eventually - use some thorium fuel experimentally, it isn't even slightly true to claim that thorium was the "original nuclear fuel". Indeed, fundamentally it can't be. Thorium is not fissile, and can only be used as part of a breeding reactor process that starts with uranium. And it's that breeding process that makes the difference; uranium could produce far more energy per ton of fuel also if it were used in a breeder like the IFR. But essentially the price of uranium is not close to prohibitive; the bigger challenge for India is access to that uranium, and even that is largely a matter of the desire to avoid future cost shocks. And that's a lesson that the folks who support building gas power stations would do well to remember - if they are at all interested in the long-term effect on consumers in the general public.
05:32 AM on 06/12/2012
Uranium is only need to start the reactor. In fact it doesn't even need to be uranium. Almost any fissile material will do, even spent fuel from existing reactors. Once started, the reaction will create it's own uranium 233 to sustain fission. If used in a liquid core reactor, fission 'contaminants' can be removed without stopping the reactor, thus keeping potential bomb material inside to burn up. This takes care of proliferation issues. And the amount of waste is less than 1% of existing solid core reactors.
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03:27 PM on 06/12/2012
You sound like you're trying to disagree with me, but nothing you say contradicts my points. While I'm keen to see a molten-salt thorium reactor, I don't think the proliferation argument is real for any power reactor - it's a concocted argument that simply falls apart in the light of reality.
04:46 PM on 06/13/2012
So how how much uranium (or plutonium) is needed to "jump start" these reactors?

One study estimates a start up inventory on the order of 3000 kg/GWe (U-233, U-235, or Pu-239), and enriched to 20% U-235 or 12% U-233.

http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.enconman.2007.07.047

The enrichment technology used to create all this start-up fuel is a proliferation risk, is it not? How do LFTR proponents propose to mitigate this risk … with a centralized production and global enrichment facility? What problems to you foresee in such an approach?
09:23 PM on 06/11/2012
The author left some important details about which type of Thorium fueled reactors would offer a safety advantage. A molten salt reactor with Th-232 to U-233 would operate at near ambient pressures and already exist in a melted state, so there wouldn't be any high pressure steam to drive off fission products.
10:54 PM on 06/11/2012
The pressure inside reactors are not the actual safety problem in case of an accident. The decay heat after loss of cooling is. As far as I know, the decay heat problem is no different for molten salt reactors. You still need a very costly passive cooling structure in case of an accident. You may not lose the reactor, but the cost for building one is the same as in case of light water reactor.
05:35 AM on 06/12/2012
Decay heat is not an issue either. Use of a drain plug and holding tank will allow the molten core to drain into the tank under gravity to cool. The cooling structure can be as simple as air cooling via a heat exchanger. Very inexpensive.
03:16 PM on 06/11/2012
I recently did a review of India's life sciences industry... there is absolutely nothing unimaginative about it. They are producing growth rates of 20 and 30 percent year over year and have grown into major players the last few years. Sadly, many of these companies are closed to foreign investment... otherwise I would put my money into them any day. They are also supplying a large fraction of the really essential drugs in this world, especially to developing countries. The cheap Indian made antibiotic I took, once, cured my infection just as well as any high priced US product did.

As for thorium, it is not clear why a higher natural abundance of thorium is an actual economic factor in operation of reactors. Uranium is dirt cheap. So cheap, indeed, that it does not make any dent in the actual cost of operating nuclear reactors.

As for the radiation problems with thorium reactors... they are slightly different from Uranium reactors. So we replace one set of problems with another... it is not clear to me why this would make reactors safer. The current safety record of these reactors is only great because there are none. As soon as we start building hundreds of them, accidents will happen, like in any other nuclear facility.

That India is interested in nuclear technology is easily understandable from technological, political and sociological points of view. But that alone does not make Indias decision to go nuclear an economically rational choice.
05:39 PM on 06/11/2012
This reactor isn't really any safer than any other pressurized water reactor. This reactor uses plutonium to generate neutrons to turn the thorium into uranium-233, which is fissile. The real safety benefits come from using thorium in a molten salt reactor, which is what is being done in China and was done in the United States in the 1960s and 1970s.
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05:42 PM on 06/11/2012
Yes. If something goes wrong it stops working, and can't e.g. melt down or whatever.
09:12 PM on 06/11/2012
It makes sense economically because the price of nuclear energy is only lightly linked to the price of fuel. Also as they learn more they will deploy technologies that produce a variety of energy products beyond just electricity.
10:56 PM on 06/11/2012
"It makes sense economically because the price of nuclear energy is only lightly linked to the price of fuel."

No, actually, that's why it DOESN'T make a difference. We don't have high fuel prices for nuclear reactors with either fuel.

The only other "energy product" from nuclear power is heat. You can, if you want, heat buildings with it. Reactors for chemical processing are probably an economic loser, anyway, as most chemical processes don't require a lot of low temperature heat, and many that do, are couples do other processes in the same plants that provide this heat, already.