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What's In A Name? The Garter Brides Say Plenty

Posted: 03/14/2012 3:10 pm

Ann Blumenthal Jacobs, Patricia Lampl and Tish Rabe are the authors of "Love for Grown-ups: The Garter Brides' Guide to Marrying for Life When You've Already Got a Life," a relationship guide for women over 35 on how to find Mr. Right, marry and find life-long happiness. The Garter Brides are a sisterhood of women who got married later in life and wore the same garter at their weddings! They offer tried-and-true advice on how to have the love and life you want.

When we interviewed hundreds of brides for our book "Love For Grown-ups," we discovered there are as many ways to handle changing your name as there are brides. Let's start with the three authors of the book. Patricia Ryan Lampl decided to continue using her maiden name (no hyphen), Ann's maiden name was Jacobs and now her married name is Jacobs and Tish ditched her long, hard-to-spell maiden name just as fast as she could!

Tish shared her story:

"On my 'Rap Sheet' in our book it lists my full legal name Patricia Annette Saumsiegle Rabe. Every time I see that I can hear my mother's voice from my childhood patiently spelling on the phone: 'Saumsiegle, that's "S" as in "sugar" a u "M" as in Mary, i e "S" as in "sugar"...' By then I was convinced whoever the hapless person was on the other end of the line was ready to hang up. I remember taking the SATs and putting the letters into boxes and running out of them somewhere halfway through Saumsiegle. The teacher just said 'Do the best you can...' When I bought my first apartment, the bank that held my mortgage wrote Patricia Annette Saumsie... on the address form and gave up after that.

"My mother named me Patricia, but they called me Tish right from the start. Fortunately, I loved it. That being said, I still had to tote around the long form of my name, Patricia Annette Saumsiegle whenever I had something formal to write. I found out that 'Annette' came from my great grandmother, which I thought was pretty cool, but put all together my name was just plain LONG.

"One day I decided to legally shorten my name to Tish Sommers. What I didn't realize was that Tish Sommers was the name of the co-founder of the National Older Women's League (N.O.W.). When she died on October 19, 1985, there was a big article about her in The New York Times. My friends and family panicked.

"Within hours family members were calling my mother, wondering how I could have died so SUDDENLY when I seemed to be doing so well!

"No one seemed to notice that THAT Tish Sommers was SEVENTY-ONE (but let's face it, no one ever really reads the fine print in obituaries).

"So, there I was, ready to ditch Saumsiegle forever, when I ran into an old friend from high school, John Rabe, and the rest is name history. Before long, we realized we were serious about each other and I looked forward to our wedding AND finally changing my name. I now use Tish Rabe and the reality is no one can pronounce our last name, Raybee, Rayb, Rahbe, Rowbee, you name it, but at least it's short."

So, when it comes to changing your name, do what's best for you and your spouse -- if you don't want to take his name, he can take yours or you can start over. What have you done about changing your names?

One of the Garter Brides fell in love with a man whose last name rhymed with "jerk" and he'd been teased about it all through school. They wanted to have kids and he didn't want them to go through that, so they changed their name to one from her side of the family.

Tish says, "I have always been impressed that my brothers' wives took on the name Saumsiegle when they got married, especially since they had simple maiden names to begin with. I love my husband, but if things had been reversed and Saumsiegle was HIS last name, I would have tried to talk him into changing it to something easier.

"I can still close my eyes and hear my mother saying, '"S" as in "sugar" a u "m" as in Mary, "s" as in "sugar."'"

Some things, you never forget.

 

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11:22 PM on 03/21/2012
I was married 32 years ago and was going to keep my name. My hubby was happy about it but my dad wasn't so to make him happy, I took my hubbies name but our kids have my last name as their middle names.
My son was married in Nov. and it didn't even occur to us that she would take his name. They are amazing individuals and an awesome couple and they don't need name changes to know who they are or what they are to each other.
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OliviaBolivia27
from the Sosialistisk Venstreparti of Wisconsin
10:35 PM on 03/19/2012
Blegh. If having the same name is so important to him, my husband-to-be can switch over to my name. If I were to take on his, it would feel too much like a patriarchal property transaction, my father handing ownership of me over to my groom. Of course, for a woman to keep her name is still considered somehow alternative or untraditional or strange. Why aren't men ever questioned about whether they'll change their own names upon marriage? The whole idea of it makes me feel nauseous.
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thereasonist
Reasonable, Liberal, Firm yet Loving...
06:08 PM on 03/20/2012
Let me ask you a question...do you carry your mother's or father's last name...

let me guess...
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OliviaBolivia27
from the Sosialistisk Venstreparti of Wisconsin
11:27 PM on 03/20/2012
I was given my father's at birth because that's the tradition in the patriarchy, but now I use both my mother's and father's name together.
isisreptiles
Pro-choice, pro marriage equality
09:47 PM on 03/18/2012
I changed my last name to my husband's when we married, but after a while wished I'd kept my own name. I even thought about changing it back. After my parents passed away, I became estranged from what's left of my family of origin, Now I'm glad I have my husband's name rather than keeping my own, as I want nothing to connect me with my two siblings. In the end it all worked out.
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viennawoods
An optimistic cynic.
01:40 PM on 03/18/2012
I started saying when I was about 5 that I wasn't going to change my name when I got married. That was the 1960's and people were horrified, said I'd have to marry someone with the same last name as me. In the 70's people said, what if your husband wants you to? I said that I wouldn't want to marry him then. In the 80's, I met a man I fell for fast and hard, and on our third date he spent about half an hour trying to persuade a female friend not to change her name when she got married the next year. We actually ended up getting married a couple of months before them, and he likes to say WE didn't change our names. After our first boy was born he asked if I wanted one of our children to have my last name. I didn't need that; both our boys have his last name and they have never minded one little bit that I don't share their name.
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viennawoods
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01:51 PM on 03/18/2012
Forgot to add, my sister got married 30 years ago and did change her name; she is still happily married but told me recently that she now regrets doing that.
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peegan
Silence like a cancer grows...S/G.
11:56 PM on 03/16/2012
My name is long and definitely unusual, but it is me. So when I married it was a a bit of a dilemma for me about changing it. There is history to both my first and middle names, and of course my last name ties me to my parents and my siblings. But I also knew my husband and i were going to have children and i most definitely wanted us to all have the same last family name.So now I have four names, and it is long and unusual, but it is me.
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Earthling1125
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10:35 PM on 03/19/2012
If you wanted everyone in the your family to have the same last name, why didn't you consider having your husband and kids take YOUR name? I'm going to bet neither of you even mentioned that option - and if not, then why not? Why is it always assumed the wife and kids should take HIS name? Why is the man's personal identity so much more important than the woman's?
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peegan
Silence like a cancer grows...S/G.
05:35 PM on 03/20/2012
While for many this would be an option, for us it would not have worked. We probably could have worked around my husband being well known in his field (Personal name/public name), but my husband has a son from a first marriage and I wanted all the kids to have the same name to help solidify the family.
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lisalawless
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11:15 PM on 03/16/2012
Names only have the power we give them. Do what makes you happy. Life is short.
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06:09 PM on 03/20/2012
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Steve Davis 1
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11:11 PM on 03/16/2012
My wife started using my last name, once we were engaged. She grew up Nancy Horney, but gladly become Nancy Davis. No spelling issues, no pronouncement questions, and no jokes.
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Hopalongpoppyseed
May you reap what you sow.
12:00 AM on 03/17/2012
I understand. My wife who was a true 60s feminist, took my name when we got married. When I asked her why she was willing to take my name, which being of French Huguenot extraction, is difficult to spell and pronounce. She reminded me that her name often sounded like that of a 1950's stripper :)) I was and remain honored, none the less.
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MaryinNM
10:59 PM on 03/16/2012
I kept my maiden name until after the birth of my first child. I wanted everyone to know that we were family, and a common/shared last name did that. I legally changed my surname to that of my husband but retained my maiden name and incorporated it as a second middle name. So, when I write my initials, I have four instead of the usual three (no hyphens). It's worked out brilliantly for me.
10:29 PM on 03/16/2012
I'm on the fence. I've had a difficult name all my life, but my fiancé has a simple one. He doesn't expect me to change my name, and there are a lot of cons (LOTS of things to change legally, professional publications and career with current name, only one of me if you Google me!). I wonder if I could 'get away' with unofficially appending his name to mine but not bothering legally. Has anyone else done that? I'm not even sure what that would accomplish though.
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thereasonist
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10:27 PM on 03/16/2012
My wife had to take my last name...it was a no brainer...but a deal breaker...but to each his/her own.
11:26 PM on 03/16/2012
You're joking, right?
09:52 PM on 03/19/2012
If my husband had insisted that I change my name, that sure would have been a dealbreaker for me!
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thereasonist
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12:46 AM on 03/20/2012
@Leigh...good for you..whatever works for you and your husband.
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Lulo
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10:03 PM on 03/16/2012
Sort of off-topic, but related: Mos American women I have met who have changed ther last names when they married a Hispanic male (I am one) soon dicover just PRECISELY what most Hispanics mean by "racism" and "prejudism". It is interesting to hear the stories some of them tell at parties and get togethers.
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Rheinbear
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10:00 PM on 03/16/2012
When we married I happily took my husbands name. Didn't give it a second thought. However the man I married was an immigrant from Germany and when he received his American citizenship he changed his last name to my maiden name. The decision was made out of his respect for my father, but I do have to say I was happy to have it back.
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Sheriff J W Pepper
09:42 PM on 03/16/2012
too much pride in name = get a life
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Earthling1125
Respect Nature - we are lost without her
10:39 PM on 03/19/2012
That's exactly how I feel about men who insist wives forfeit their good names.
techjockey
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09:40 PM on 03/16/2012
We both changed our last name when we married.
It was a great way to start married life.
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Earthling1125
Respect Nature - we are lost without her
10:39 PM on 03/19/2012
LOVE that idea! Good for you!
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NikitaAhn
Peace is its own reward.
09:33 PM on 03/16/2012
This is an interesting issue for me for a few reasons - I legally changed my last name at 16 when I was legally adopted into my family. I had been in foster care on and off all my life, and consistently for two years previous to my adoption, so when my parents adopted me (a miracle, considering my age - teens almost never get adopted) I GLADLY took their name. I hated my surname with a passion. Not for the name itself, but for who I associated it with - my highly abusive parents (specifically my stepfather, who had beaten and raped me for years). Shedding that surname and taking on the name of the people who had taken me into their family, loved me, supported me, and finally healed that terrible wound that comes from being a child without a home was cathartic and empowering and moving. It made me feel like part of a real home for the first time ever, and I cherish my name with all my heart now. Which is why I will never change it - I had to go through hell to get this name (and all it represents) - why would I give it up for tradition? And anyway - I'm gay, so that adds a whole level of complexity! Luckily my long-time GF hates her surname for many of the same reasons, and she has said that she wants to change it so she'll probably take on my name.
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janinei
peace and love to all
11:25 PM on 03/16/2012
That is so cool, I am so happy you have found love and can share such a special name!
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NikitaAhn
Peace is its own reward.
01:13 AM on 03/17/2012
Thank you! I think it's pretty cool, too. My family is the world to me - without them, I shudder to think where I'd be. When I came to them at nearly 15 years old, I was deeply traumatized, acting out, had run from group homes and foster homes and lived on the streets, and I was suicidally depressed. I had decided that no one was ever going to love or care for me, and had tried to convince myself that I no longer wanted a family - that "family" was just an illusion and I was better off on my own - because it hurt less than yearning for something I thought I would never have (or worse, believing that family was real and that I simply wasn't good enough for one). They saw past all the anger and pain and fear to the girl underneath, and no matter how much I pushed them away they just kept loving me and giving me chances and telling me that nothing I could do was going to change the fact that I was a part of a family now. Finally that sunk in and I let myself trust someone again, and it turned my life from a living hell or uncertainty and grief to one of acceptance and support and kinship.
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NikitaAhn
Peace is its own reward.
01:14 AM on 03/17/2012
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That was all I needed to flourish, and in a year I was caught up three grades, off all meds, and my depression and PTSD was well on its way to being manageable instead of completely overwhelming and consuming. The day of my adoption hearing, when I officially got to take my parents' name, was like the culmination of all that - the seal that said I was finally home and that I would never have to face the world alone and adrift again. To me, that name means making your own family, choosing the people you let into your heart and letting them love you and support you no matter who has hurt you before or how frightened you are to let someone close. It's the perfect name for my GF and I when we (hopefully soon!) can legally marry, because she too comes from a background of abuse and her surname carries the memories of that pain. When she takes my name, it will represent all the same wonderful things it meant to me when I took that name - family of your own making, love after pain, and unconditional support and trust. We've been together for 7 years next month and we have a life together that is built on love, trust, and mutual respect - a family of two - and my surname is a perfect fit for our relationship.

The best part is, my surname is Haim, which means "home". How wonderful is that?