Hillary's acting like a grown up, and so should you

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Today I heard an incredibly snarling comment from a woman who is still incensed that Hillary is not the nominee. In her opinion, Hillary was cheated out of the nomination, Barack can never get elected because he is black and more importantly, according to her, American will never accept a black First Lady, and who cares if McCain appoints the next Supreme Court because look what happened when the Court appointed our president in 2000!

Huh?

The last bit is completely incomprehensible, and her second and third points a sad comment on the continuing racism in our society, but the first is an example of the inability of some otherwise mature women to act like women and not little girls.

I'm sure you all remember some child from your school days who manipulated all of his or her friends, and sometimes teachers, by pouting, crying, and generally making everyone around them miserable if they didn't get their way. This is the image I am reminded of when I see this complete unwillingness of some of these die-hard Hillary supporters to accept the fact that she did not run a winning primary campaign, and the contest is over.

For heaven's sake, act like a grown up. Grown ups accept that when you play in the big leagues, you can win big but you can also lose big. Either way life goes on and you move on to the next challenge. Pouting prevents you from dealing with the next thing life is going to throw at you, and makes you look small and immature. Hillary herself is acting like a grown up, and supporting Obama for the sake of this country's future.

She's done a remarkable thing by opening a door for women that was never realistically there before, and she, and her supporters, should be proud of that. Heck, I didn't even support her and I'm proud of that! Unfortunately, that pride, and that accomplishment, are diminished by this continual whining over shoulda/woulda/coulda. If you are whining, you are not acting like the grown woman you are.

For the sake of this country we need to act like grown-ups, get over it, move on, and get President Obama into the White House.

Today I heard an incredibly snarling comment from a woman who is still incensed that Hillary is not the nominee. In her opinion, Hillary was cheated out of the nomination, Barack can never get electe...
Today I heard an incredibly snarling comment from a woman who is still incensed that Hillary is not the nominee. In her opinion, Hillary was cheated out of the nomination, Barack can never get electe...
 
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- ebbtide I'm a Fan of ebbtide 16 fans permalink

Hillary and Bill have not acted like grownups througout their despicable and disgusting camppaignh.

Indeed,k they6 have beenn actiing like the narcissists they are,, convinced that they are leader of the party and not the choice of the people, Obama,.''

please stop it.. Hillary and Bill are becoming p[asse, Through the grace of the nominee,m who beat them both, Obamja, they6 are afforder a place on the stage but you and they should remember, if it were not for the grace of Obama, they would NOT be on stage, terying to recapture their control ofver the party.

They both are has beenbs. Where they go from here is not my concern, but I will fight them both wherever they go; to the end for their desp[icable and disgustibng campaiign.,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 08/27/2008

All this discussion, all this discussion about Hillary and Bill. Hillary didn't win. You bank on a large state with 20 electoral votes and skip 5 smaller caucus states @ 7 electoral votes a piece and this is what happens you win 20 but the other guy won 35. He's ahead. He planned and he executed, the other just figured hi-power husband, famous last name and I am a guarantee. Now it's all about trying to delegitamize the victory of the person who didn't have a big name so he had to fight for everything. No disrespect to Hillary but I believe she,Bill and her big name supporters are purposely trying to screw Barack. The supporters making noise are simply a bunch of racist people hiding behind the notion that Hillary was the better choice is leading the charge. She was robbed. She got 18 million votes? well 36 plus million votes were cast and who got the rest. Barack Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 08/25/2008

I wonder how many of the the posters here preaching unity were screaming anyone-but-Hilary only a few months ago. hmmmm....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 08/24/2008
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 109 fans permalink
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I wasn't! I was talking about Obama, because I was inspired by him, but at the same time I was also talking about how I would have GLADLY voted for Hillary should she win the primary season!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 08/25/2008

I am an adult. I chose to vote Green this election. Good luck in Nov. ya'all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 08/24/2008
- gro I'm a Fan of gro 3 fans permalink

And why are the repugs upset Hillary wasn't Obama's VP choice?
It's obvious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 08/24/2008
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 109 fans permalink
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Um.... Because they were DESPERATELY hoping to have her as the Veep, so that they could mobilize the base even more than they can with a Black Man as the presidential nominee???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 08/24/2008

I can not understand the Hillary people who will "protest" vote. What they are saying to me is that they would rather put up with another 4-8 years of neocon rule. Why not deal with an adminstration that would be far more likely to work with them. Obama simply could not have Bill looking over his shoulder all the time. I will wait and see how strong Hillary actually campaigns for Obama, if she calculates that she could win in 2012 if Obama loses I think she is very mistaken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 08/24/2008
- mesut I'm a Fan of mesut 4 fans permalink

...."She's done a remarkable thing by opening a door for women that was never realistically there before, and she, and her supporters, should be proud of that. Heck, I didn't even support her and I'm proud of that! Unfortunately, that pride, and that accomplishment, are diminished by this continual whining over shoulda/wo­ulda/could­a. If you are whining, you are not acting like the grown woman you are. "

very good point....it makes me wonder how well Sen Clinton would fair if she ran in 2012.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 08/24/2008
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 109 fans permalink
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Don't you mean 2016? Cause Obama's still gonna be running in 2012, this time for RE-election, and I just don't see it happening that people in the party would throw out a sitting president for Nominee!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 08/24/2008
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First thing that should stop on this wonderful blog is (Answering back or acknowledging the obvious McCain hacks) comments.

Case in Point: 2Nurselady.. Look how many comments she got for the trash she spew.
Obama people are better than that.

Ignore them & they will go away (Or feel stupid after a while and give up).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 08/24/2008
- Johnnn I'm a Fan of Johnnn 2 fans permalink

Using the rantings of an illogical person is no way to start.
And I am tired of hearing the race thing as any kind of excuse.
There is no law that says American voters have to support the party nominee. For President,
you support the PERSON you feel can best do the job. Supporting the party nominee no matter who it is is one of the reasons our track record of who we elect as President is less than impressive.
I still don't know what to expect from an Obama Presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 08/24/2008

The reallity is McCain=Same old neocon BS
Obama/Biden=A least a chance for the lower middle class and working class
Think about it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 08/24/2008

Hopefully you KNOW what to expect from Mc Cain, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 08/24/2008

I think they are now angry that they have nothing left to be angry about! The VP selection is over and Hillary has moved on, and away, from them. Now? They have nowhere to direct their anger at their own lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 AM on 08/24/2008

The grown up thing is to remind the country that the mess that America has become is the result of Bushy and Cheney's politices, the compliance of the RNC and the people who voted them into office.

The duty is on all Americans to vote for people who won't be doing a Bush third term.

Incompetence must be voted out of office. And the time is right for diplomacy, economic reconstruction from the bottom up and holding corporations responsible for the billions that they havde cost tax players with their negligence and corruption..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 AM on 08/24/2008
- fpie I'm a Fan of fpie 11 fans permalink

I was opposed to running Obama from the start because of the difficulty of getting a black man elected. That said I think he will make a great president and I'm more impressed (& hopeful) the more I see.
But it's still going to be hard to get him elected. Besides racism there is the bumbling press and worse the Republican election theft machine that has been very successfil in recent years and has never been better tuned and ready. Now is not the time to bicker and make protest votes. The future of America and the world hang on this election. There is no next time! If we let the Republicans win this, steal this or finagle this one it's going to all be over but the crying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 AM on 08/24/2008
- Tayo I'm a Fan of Tayo 4 fans permalink

You hit the nail on the head! I'm astounded that some people still don't realise the dire nature of our national situation. Who cares about Obama' skin color as long as his core belief is in sync with the core belief of the majority of Americans? We are in trouble. This is not the time to give in to petulant acrimonies. I agree: Hillary is acting like a grown-up and it's time we all did!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 AM on 08/24/2008
- Lindy222 I'm a Fan of Lindy222 10 fans permalink

I've been mystified by the comments about Obama not at least vetting Hillary and not consulting Bill and Hillary about possible VPs.

Re that first point, as I understand it, Hillary asked not to be vetted unless she was going to be picked. Well, that's an obvious non-starter.

Re consulting them for advice, given their -- and in particular, Bill's -- unhappiness that Hillary lost, how uncomfortable would that have been? If Obama had asked (and none of us really knows if he did or didn't), but if the news came out that he did, I can picture these Hillary supporters being enraged at how disrespectful THAT was!

These women are really, really sick. I find it hard to believe they were really Dems. They are perpetually to be aggrieved and insulted.

You know, if anyone hurts Hillary's chances in the future, it will be these women. Who's going to want to deal with them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 AM on 08/24/2008
- 2Nurselady I'm a Fan of 2Nurselady 2 fans permalink
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The 'GROWN-UP" thing to do is to stand up in opposition to the wrongs of the DNC, the RBC, Barack Obama, and the sexism that took place in this election. That, for me, will be a vote for McCain, even though I am a lifelong Democrat.

Barack Obama could have brought the Party together. He chose not to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 08/24/2008
- RebaG I'm a Fan of RebaG 2 fans permalink

Someone once said "There are no victims, only volunteers." Go ahead volunteer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 08/24/2008
- Janco54 I'm a Fan of Janco54 2 fans permalink

You aren't a lifelong Democrat - if you were you'd give a damn about your country and not even consider voting for McCain.

Obama will bring the party together - without all of you "lifelong" Democrats". He could bring the party together faster if all you "lifelong Democrats" would get over yourselves and come along for the ride.
Oh - and if you vote for McCain and he wins - remember - no bitchin' from any one of you for four years! You make the bed - you lie in it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 08/24/2008
- ceu I'm a Fan of ceu 6 fans permalink

So your method of fighting sexism is to vote for a man who feels that there's no need for laws insuring equal pay for equal work (women just need more education), who wants to overturn Roe v Wade, and who has so little respect for women that he calls his wife a trollop - and worse - in front of reporters? You won't be punishing the DNC or Obama by voting McCain into office; you'll be punishing ALL American women for generations. How can that be a good or just thing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 08/24/2008
- Softnsweet I'm a Fan of Softnsweet 9 fans permalink
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2Nurselady,

I wish people like you stop lying to yourself. Evidently, you did not really read all of Ann's post. We know the real reason and so do you. You people have made me sorry that I am a woman. I am sick to death of your whining and I know that men are. You swear that you are voting for McCain, then do that and stop posting and looking since you already know where you vote is going.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 08/24/2008
- Softnsweet I'm a Fan of Softnsweet 9 fans permalink
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awww because he did not want Hillary as VP? She did not want the spot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 08/24/2008
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