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The Religion Factor in a Twentysomethings Relationship

Posted: 08/02/2012 8:36 am

"Because at this point, religion does kinda matter, ya know? We had to talk about it, and turns out, we're on very different pages. So I ended it. I didn't realize I actually cared..."

I didn't realize either, I said to myself, walking a little too close to the petite corporate working girl venting on the phone on a deserted sidewalk. I couldn't believe the conversation she was having at that moment was the same one I had been having with myself for almost a year.

Even though I'm a Jewish girl who went to Hebrew school twice a week for countless years, had a Bat Mitzvah in a Conservative synagogue, went to sleepaway camp, experienced Birthright and joined a Jewish sorority in college, I still never really considered myself religious. The term in itself had a negative connotation in my mind.

Oh, she's weird, she's religious. He's way too religious to ever date. Her parents are seriously religious.

The whole, "Grow up and marry a nice Jewish boy" has never been my family's motto. (Though they certainly aren't against it.) In fact, religion viewed as a priority in the way in which one chooses a husband was far from my understanding. The way I saw it, love, kindness, patience and, of course, a sense of humor all came before religion.

This is probably why my last relationship was with a non-Jew, a goy, as my grandparents would have said. We had been dating for years without a change of heart until a sudden conversation over a glass of sangria threw us off course.

They'd be Jewish, of course. Right? The kids are always what the mother is, I said.

Who told you that? My kids aren't going to be Jewish.

Oh, um, my Dad. I mean, what else would they be?

And that's how the bickering began -- and the first time I even really had marriage on the brain.

After a night of tears and arguing and getting defensive over a religion I had thought I had very little connection to, I did the only thing I could think of. I immediately went to my trusted pal, Google.

How do you raise kids with two religions? Enter.

How to marry someone who doesn't practice your religion? Enter.

What is the success rate of inter-faith couples? Enter.

Scrolling through endless essays and studies and mostly negative comments on the matter, I felt stunned at the volume of threads on a topic I had only just begun to wonder myself. I also felt silly. I didn't know if I was going to marry this guy. Should I really consider breaking up over religion?

And then the little things started to hit me slowly, but ever-so poignantly. Lighting the Shabbat candles Friday night as a kid and sitting down for dinner, no matter how casual. Watching my cousin's husband stomp his foot down on the symbolic glass under a Chuppah on their wedding day. Making latkes with my Mom on Chanukah. I started to get a tingling feeling under my rib cage, in my gut. Was that something I could give up?

Then I started to think about what I would be missing out on if I just up and ended things with the non-Jew. Camping out to marathon old seasons of shows until we were all caught up. Getting into a carefully made, half-tucked, half-untucked bed on the nights I stayed over. Listening to him read a short story aloud because "it's good for our memories." Never feeling embarrassed about asking where Bulgaria is on the map or eating unhealthy amounts of popcorn. Knowing that he could pinpoint my emotions based on a slight facial expression.

Was that something I could give up? For religion?

People say love fades eventually and religion is the foundation that makes things easier for a family. But what if in my case, love didn't fade and was instead the force behind a wonderful home? What if raising kids without a structured religion allowed them to grow up in a world where the guilt from their family (or the culture they were raised in) never burdened them from being with the one they loved?

Whether or not I end up with a Christmas tree-lover, I don't think I'll ever close my heart to anyone. Call me an utter optimist, or a sinner, but I choose to believe that kindness should always be the winning point on a pro/con list.

And anyway, he can always learn the Hora.

 

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08:20 PM on 09/04/2012
Would I break up with someone over my faith... yes, most definitely, but not for the reason you might think. You could be of the same religion and have very different values and ways of practicing. I would break up with someone over that quicker than if we were of different religions but had the same values and respected the differences in each other's religion. I would always teach my children about Jesus, no matter what faith their father was and that would have to be o.k. with my husband. I would also respect his right to teach what he felt was important. That said, I don't see myself marrying any man outside of my immediate faith other than a christian from another denomination or a Jew.
03:02 PM on 09/04/2012
Excellent, well-written essay. I hope many people take the time to read and consider.
11:33 AM on 09/04/2012
Why is it that most people identify themselves with their religion first and fail to recognize that we all belong to one world family? Human values do not depend on, and are not derived from, any external authority. I believe that organized religion stifles the true human spirit. Human values are already present in every heart and only need to be uncovered, rekindled, encouraged and nurtured.
09:43 AM on 09/04/2012
"Raising kids without a structured religion allows them to grow up in a world where the guilt from their family (or the culture they were raised in) never burdens them from being with the one they loved."

Fixed. Not a question.
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Allan Richter
06:28 PM on 08/13/2012
“Whether or not I end up with a Christmas tree-lover, I don't think I'll ever close my heart to anyone. Call me an utter optimist, or a sinner, but I choose to believe that kindness should always be the winning point on a pro/con list. And anyway, he can always learn the Hora.” (Brand)

Henrietta Szold in 1895 already recognized the effects of assimilation. She wrote: ““There is a vast store house filled with treasures…The key is in our guardianship….When we have ceased to be efficient guardians of our treasures, of what use are we to the world.? I fear that in the case of such flagrant dereliction of duty, the 20th century will have in store for us not a Ghetto, but a grave.” (Henrietta Szold, 1859)
02:19 PM on 08/10/2012
Kabbalah is not a religion. 0;-)
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06:30 AM on 08/09/2012
I think it comes down to what religion means to you.

I'm Jewish with a non-practicing, Catholic father. We were raised Jewish and I always knew that I wanted to raise my children Jewish. The few times I dated Jewish boys didn't work out and my current (and most likely final) boyfriend is an atheist. To me, it doesn't matter what religion my partner is or isn't, as long as I can raise my future family Jewish. And my boyfriend understands that. When I worked for a Jewish organisation, he would come with me for events and show his support and ask questions. He helped me cook for a Passover seder a few times as well. He accepted my Jewish traditions, even if he didn't believe in them.

However, I have a Catholic friend who had an atheist boyfriend. They were together 6 years and he wanted to marry her. He would go to church with her but just didn't believe in God. She kept holding back until she realised that it is important to her to be with someone who doesn't just support her faith but believes it as well.

So it comes down to with what you and your partner are happy with. Some people can make it work without compromising what is important to them, others needs it all or nothing.
hfpf
Wake up World.
04:35 AM on 08/08/2012
You don't have a "Bat Mitzvah", you become a "Bat Mitzvah". When you understand the difference Ms. Brand, it will be apparent to you what decision to make regarding an interfaith marriage.
06:36 PM on 08/05/2012
Two points I would make. First of all, the author of this article has a very
superficial idea of both Jewish committment and identity. Perhaps, had she
had a stronger idea of both, she would not have been dating the gentleman
in the first place. Secondly, the idea of raising a child in two religious tradition
is horrible. It is confusing for the children and sets up a fault line within the family
should be decision made by one of the children later. The best policy is to
make a decision which religious tradition should be followed as a family
and stick to that decision.

ALAN LEVIN
FAIR LAWN, NJ
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08:38 PM on 08/06/2012
One parent has to give up their religion? That's insane. What's so hard about practicing religions separately? The child can observe both practices and decide which one he or she wants to practice. There is no right or wrong religion. Personally, I think it's all bull.
06:28 PM on 08/16/2012
Many people that don't have a "religion", care less on the matter. But if it comes down to that, then it should be the one that is the True God and not some religion, but a relationship.
12:36 PM on 08/05/2012
Thanks, Anna, for sharing your thoughtful story that shows the push and pull that goes on in our heads and our hearts -- and doesn't end up with a clear answer, just like our lives! Just wondering -- if the conversation had gone differently about how the kids would be raised, would that have made a difference?
08:37 PM on 08/04/2012
It's hard, but...break it off. The older you get and if you got married, the more mad at yourself for doing this for "love" which has now taken a back seat as you say and "religion" has taken over.
04:00 PM on 08/04/2012
I have found that people who date and marry outside of their own culture, religion. status, etc. aren't concerned enough/attached to their background. I am from a generation that rarely did that. I was more comfortable with my "own people: Jews". Everyone does what he or she has to do! I never could marry any one who said HIS kids aren't going to be like me, Jewish! You could be an outsider in your own home! Or it could work out well for everyone....take your chances!
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Mike G NYC
09:17 AM on 08/04/2012
Instead of breaking up over religion, try breaking up with religion.
02:41 AM on 08/07/2012
Now there's a sound idea.
06:31 PM on 08/16/2012
"try breaking up with religion" We need a relationship with God, not a religious walk.
09:45 AM on 09/04/2012
Relationship with God is different from relationship with church. Human companionship is necessary. Religion is not.
02:07 AM on 08/04/2012
A lot of inter caste marriages are happening in India. The funny part is whether boy or girl , it is the Hindu who converts to the religion of their partner before marriage and never the other way around! Sometimes I wonder whether Christians and Muslims marry Hindus to further their religion and not for love! And when a Christian marries a Muslim(very,very rarely) it is the Christian who gives up his or her religion! Never the Muslim!
11:23 AM on 08/25/2012
That is bcause hindus do not follow their traditions or attempt to transmit their beliefs to their children. They are very ambivalent .
03:32 AM on 08/28/2012
I married a Hindu ... and converted. I was married in an Arya Samadj ceremony and there was no official "conversion". I simply believed in the tenets of Hinduism and the breadth and depth of a religion which is more philosophy than rigid rules and dogmas. Reincarnation answered a lot of questions for me as I retained images of past lives as a child. And the concept of karma seemed so much more logical than a "Day of Judgment". The power of the images of gods and goddesses as loving couples was a revelation.

In the twenty years I lived in India, not a single person attempted to influence me in any way. The tolerance of the Hindus is unique. In the early days of my marriage, my mother-in-law ... who spoke not a word of English, installed a small picture of Jesus in her mandhir .... her personal shrine. I was profoundly touched, This is what true spirituality is.

Jai Hind!
10:44 PM on 08/03/2012
Simple, when it comes to religion, don't push children into any particular mold. Wait until they are in high school, give them the facts, as you see 'em, and let them decide what is right for them. When it comes to religion, there is no one religion that fits all individuals and children must have the ability to decide which religion or no religion they want to follow.
07:27 AM on 08/04/2012
What faith do you ascribe too? If none, then I can see where you're coming from....which(IMO) is not a good idea.
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08:44 PM on 08/06/2012
"Let the kids decide what they want to practice? Heathen! They shouldn't be able to choose!"
08:01 AM on 08/04/2012
you have no idea what you are talking about