Ari Emanuel

Ari Emanuel

Posted: March 26, 2008 03:55 PM

What Hillary Really Learned in the White House

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The real experience Hillary Clinton gained during her years in the White House has finally been revealed: she learned, just like her husband, how to manipulate words to cover up her lies.

Just as Bill used "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is" in front of the grand jury to mask his lies about Monica Lewinsky, Hillary is now using "sleep deprivation" and "misspoke" and "it proves I'm human" to soft sell her hyperbolic tale of ducking sniper fire in Bosnia. I can't wait to see the video showing what she was really doing in Ireland when she claims to have been "deeply involved in the Irish peace process" (a claim that David Trimble, who received the Nobel Peace Prize for his actual involvement in the effort, called a "wee bit silly").

Do we really want to subject ourselves to this verbal abuse for the next four years?

I'm glad Hillary, when presented with irrefutable video evidence, finally admitted she "made a mistake" about her trip to Bosnia. I just wish she would also finally admit she was wrong about her vote authorizing the president to go to war with Iraq. There is plenty of irrefutable evidence of that too.

 
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If Senator Clinton somehow wins the nomination, she has so damaged her image that she will have lost the respect of most Americans, including most Democrats. I do not think she should drop out of the race, and I think there's still a slim possibility that she could win the popular vote - very slim. But she is still damaged goods. Her negatives are rising among Democrats, Independents, and moderate Republicans, and even if she wins the nomination, she will inevitably be defeated in the general.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 03/30/2008

Does she care? And does she really believe she will have a chance in 2012?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 03/30/2008

Sen Obama does have his work cut out for him...as he well knew from the beginning. It must be the most challenging of balancing acts to TRY to conduct a campaign based on facts and real issues while HAVING to resond to crap that is nothing short of disgraceful tactics. Is he "weak" not to respond to personal attacts...­no, just sidetracked. DO NOT let this campaign be stolen from our scrutiny by distraction, misrepresentation, irrelevant "noise". This one is TOO important. You could fill volumes with the PERTINENT FACTS the media are NOT reporting. The so-called "news media" are reporting, inflaming, and re-hashing so much irrelevant minutae that the real "victim" is the on-going election campaign. The "media" "have no dog in this fight". After the election, they will still continue to report on events and details that numb our interest in real news while allowing them to continue the endless parade of "talking heads" for "our enlightenment". The facts are a matter of record and we owe it to ourselves to seek them out and DECIDE FOR OURSELVES the relevence and validity of any issue or event! Thanks to "good media" like this one and The Hill to name a couple, we have a fine source from which to BEGIN ourquest for the truth while keeping our JUDGEMENTS our own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 03/30/2008
- juangault I'm a Fan of juangault 3 fans permalink

The none-PBS news media has gone commercial. What sells is what's important. From this standpoint, the Clintons help their business in a big way. I think the media will pull strings in her favor to keep the fire burning, to hold market share. She does keep coming with everything that she can. But in the end, I think the black man will outlast the white woman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 03/30/2008
- cinemaven I'm a Fan of cinemaven 22 fans permalink
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How surprising to find an article that's nothing more than a rehash of other articles with no purpose other than to slam Hillary...­. here on Huffpo... who could have predicted it?

Ari, perhaps actually writing an article would be a better idea. This poor excuse for an opinion piece doesn't really deserve the space it's written on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 03/30/2008
- widollar I'm a Fan of widollar 6 fans permalink
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Team Billary are two power hungry creatures who play to their place in the history books! Buba was not all that bad, but his side kick is a real train wreck ,and would not be good for America. The thought of these two egomanics arguing daily in the oval office on how to govern America is a horrible thought!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 03/30/2008
- darker I'm a Fan of darker 40 fans permalink

THE TRICK IS ... TO stop being an immature spoiled brat VOTER .

BE A RESPONSIBLE ADULT.
THIS IS NOT a SPORTS event.

Choose the most common-sense
candidate who is NOT Republicans all over again. GET IT?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 AM on 03/30/2008
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 260 fans permalink

"she learned, just like her husband, how to manipulate words to cover up her lies."

Another lightweight political groupie who still breaks out in a sweat over 'The Blowjob That Shook The World'.

And now, because your juvenile condescension is supported by facts, you'll provide a list of Bill Clinton's "lies" while President.

You did say "lies" -- as in plural -- didn't you, shill? You DO mean that it was a common, characteristic practice of Clinton to lie as President, don't you?

The list, amateur...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 AM on 03/30/2008

Did anyone notice that Hillary was surrounded by armed GI's as she left the plane?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 03/30/2008

"Sleep Deprived"? And yet she wants us to believe she will show good judgement at 3:00 am and have her wits about her when that horrible call comes on the red phone at the White House?
__________­__________­__________­__________­__________­__________­__

I suggest we all chip in and buy the lady a bottle of Xanex so she get some sleep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 03/30/2008

I have some extra Ambien lying around here somewhere. maybe I should send them to Hilary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 03/30/2008
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Very good point, about the sleep deprivation.
You know, it's hard to know whether Hillary believes her own lies, or doesn't and simply justifies them, i.e. the end justifies the means. I lean toward the latter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 03/30/2008
- WillBFair I'm a Fan of WillBFair 4 fans permalink

Or maybe she learned to help Bill create and pass a national legislative agenda that would reverse the damages of three republican administrations. Meanwhile, Obama has learned to adopt Clinton policies as his own, when he's not reciting ridiculous fanatsies about a friendly republican party, planning parties with dictators, or uniting the country with a kinder, gentler politics, while using republican smear tactics like Carl Rove on meth.
His followers have learned to ignore fanatsies in his speeches that others see through in half a second, overlook his crude arrogance, go into hypnotic trance for his deep voice and sing song rhetoric, and ignore achievement and governing records by dwelling on shallow insults and name calling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 03/30/2008
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Excuse me, could you cite one example of a Rovian smear attack that Obama has used?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 03/30/2008

certainly: the health care flier the Obama campaign passed around, depicting Hillary's healthcare plan as state-run socialism. That type of attack is just like something Rove or other republicans would use.

Or how about when the Obama campaign mocked her and rewrote history, saying that since when does being first lady qualify you to be president. Of course, they ignored the fact that Hillary Clinton is not like most first ladies, as everyone well knows. Because whether you love her or hate her, you have to admit Hillary Clinton is no Nancy Reagan. In fact, Hillary is unlike any other first lady in this countries history. We've all seen the tapes of her fighting Senate republicans in health care reform.

Come on, stop assuming Obama is the leader of a "movement".
MLK, Cesar Chavez were leaders of movements.
Barack Obama is a politician. Time to come down from the clouds now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 AM on 03/30/2008
- donchep I'm a Fan of donchep 6 fans permalink

Reverse the damages? How is giving the house of representatives in 1994 back to the GOP reversing damages? How could she teach Bill ANYTHING if her main agenda of healthcare miserably failed and according to Chris Dodd set back all efforts by Democrats to even put forth any healthcare legislation 15 years. Now that we have the luxury of 20/20 hindsight, it's becoming harder to see a great deal of the good we thought we got from the Clinton administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 AM on 03/30/2008

Willbefair~

It is not "fair" to presume to know what "his folllowers have learned". That is a rather presumptuous statement born of shallow thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 03/30/2008
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Hillary Clinton helped Bill sell Nafta. PERIOD.

There are a lot of Americans who lost their jobs. They should pay attention to the role she actually DID play in NAFTA.

And if ANYBODY is using "smear tactics like Carl Rove on meth," it's Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 03/30/2008
- Mike O. I'm a Fan of Mike O. 9 fans permalink

Typicallly liberal response. NAFTA would have afftected jobs in the US had the labor unions truly represented their workers. Instead, like all democrat fantasies, you must find a bogeyman instead of looking at the real source of your ill: yourselves.

Stop whining and compete for goodness' sake! If this requires you to negotiate with ou "evil" employer, you know the one who PAYS YOU, then do it! Instead your union bosses told you that your employers were "stealing" from you and not treating you right. Labor became too expensive for the prices that the market could bear and, BINGO, out go the jobs.

Of course it would take a measure of personal responsibility to see this. No wonder you keep blaming others.

I have a revelation for you:

NO ONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU BUT YOU....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 03/30/2008
- SharonB I'm a Fan of SharonB 13 fans permalink

How anyone supporting HRC can speak against Pres. Bush is beyond me. They share the same soul.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 03/28/2008
- Aristedes I'm a Fan of Aristedes 2 fans permalink

Oblamans & Republiguns alike are all busy exploiting this Tempest-In­-A-Teapot! If Hillary made an honest mistake several times in a row so what? She's not perfect? Her memory is not perfect? Is anyone's memory absolutely perfect? Is yours? Is mine? When you're under pressure do you make errors in remembering? I know lots of people who do. So do I. But all you perfect people out there- you never lie, never forget, never jumble the facts, never make a mis-step?
BULLSHIT. This is a friggin' WITCH-HUNT! Hillary has a lot on the ball and a lot of courage, decisiveness & HONESTY to her character. Look at the unwarranted abuse she has been taking for so many years. The misogeny, the hatred, the unproven lies that she's had to suffer for so long. Who amongst you could handle all of this venom & not falter occasionally? You expect absolute perfection from Mrs. Clinton but the reality is that there is no such thing. Her persistence is heroic. There is no perfection short of being a Saint or God. This is a lot of vitriolic foolishness. Better get on with the real problems than jerking off over this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 03/30/2008
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If she had made a slip-up and said she was going to Harrisburg when she meant Pittsburgh, that's an honest mistake. Lying about an occurrence several times in order to bolster her claims of foreign policy experience is not an honest mistake, it's a falsehood. For someone who hammers Obama so relentlessly about his experience, it is distressing to see video documentation of her exaggerating her resume. Also, for someone who demands that Obama always explain exactly what he means and tries to catch him on semantics, her decision to play fast and loose with the facts is hypocritical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 03/30/2008
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I'm an Obama supporter but I don't think it was a big thing that she embellished her story. But you cannot seriously say it was a mistaken memory. It was a calculation to make her look like a C-in-C. It was a simple political blunder in that way I guess it was a mistake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 03/30/2008

Her heroic Bosnia tale wasn't a case of misspeaking. She told this story several times over a period of several months. The amount of detail she includes (corkscrew landing, sitting on bullet-proof vests, running with heads down into vehicles) shows that she intended this to be a calculated story to impress her audiences. Add in her Northern Ireland claims, and a voter, like myself, might begin to suspect her 35 years of experience may be rather shallow if she feels the need to trump up her accomplishments. Add in the absolute hash she made of the health care project in the early 90s that she couldn't even get out of committee despite a Democratic Senate, House, and President and one wonders just how capable she really is. Ready from Day One? With more fables?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 03/30/2008

The list of Hillary's un-worthiness to be POTUS is long and perpetual. I suggest you go to TheHill.comm" and follow the posts of Dick Morris. Not only was he ON the Clinton Staff and knows many of her (and Bill's) shennanagans first hand, but puts out a news letter that itemizes her lies, misrepresentations and outright un-American Activities. Perhaps you think conspiring to get Bill to pardon FALN terriorists to secure her election to the Senate is small potatoes? How 'bout Bill NOW being on the payroll of a Dubai corporation HE helped put together with the leader of that emirate? Do you think it insignificant that a paid member of that corporation living in the White House with Hillary might affect her Foreign Policy? Bill has already been paid $10 million in that job plus a $1 million donation to his Presidential Library. What do you think the Sheik might want in return? "Witch Hunt"? I think the media are nearly criminal in their FAILURE to report REAL FACTS about REAL ISSUES that reflect Hillary's un-worthiness. Lying is a Clinton way of life. Its already in evidence that Bill is a perjurer. These people have NO respect for American Law or the Constitution!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 03/30/2008

My memory isn't perfect but i would know the difference of landing under sniper fire and not. I would also know when I was making s*&t up to impress my supporters.

Your post kind of reminds me of the video of the Britney fan a few months back. You know the one, "why don't you just let her alone??"

And jerking off over Hilary? ewwwwwwww

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 03/30/2008
- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 47 fans permalink

HRC is a shape shifting, insincere creator & purveyor of worthless spin. She's no longer W-Lite. She's a base of W full strength with a myrid of most toxic new ingrediants which now make her far more dangerous & toxic to progressives & than John Sidney McCain, formerly the most toxic candidate for POTUS #44. Both HRC & JSMcC were briefly cones of W a short time ago. Both were fortified with the most toxic new ingrediants a day or so ago. Her Hillaryship gained access to the most toxic ingrediants which are much more dangerous & toxic than the ingrediants McCain has used. It's most doubtful is she can be induced to end her quest to become the Dem's candidate for POTUS #44. The things which Sen Reid so glibly spoke of 1 or 2 days ago which he said would settle who would get the Dem's nomination were nothing more than soap suds, vinegar & water. That won't even slow down his Barackship or her Hillaryship. The soap suds have been washed away by the DLC & the progressive wing of the Dems in an accidental episode of cooperation.
Both the door & door frame that Katie tried to bar has been chopped into kindling for the Dem's fire of acrimony. The intense fire burned any balm the DNC were cooking in their kettle of cooperation to a crisp & the kettle is dry now. Both the kettle & the balm are gone into acrid smoke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 03/28/2008

On FMLA, Debra Ness, President of the National Partnership for Women and Families, the organization that worked for years on the issue, said "Hillary was instrumental in getting the Family and Medical Leave Act signed into law...Hill­ary brought her work and experience on behalf of children and working families to the campaign trail in 1991 and 1992 and knew the importance of getting this legislation passed immediatel­y."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 AM on 03/28/2008

To you Trinidad707 I offer this excerpt from an article published on FOXNews.comm" March 28, 2008 written by Dick Morris and Eileen McGann:
Just this week, former Democratic Congressman William Lacy Clay, one of the original sponsors of the Family Leave Act, challenged her claim that she played a major role in passing the landmark bill. Hillary Clinton “never had anything to do with it,” he said. Clay pointed out that the bill had been passed several times by the Democratic Congress before Bill and Hillary ever arrived in Washington, but was subsequently vetoed twice by former President Bush. It was a no-brainer that Clinton would sign the bill — as he did just 15 days after taking office. And, during that time, Hillary’s official schedules never mention the words “Family Leave Act.” Her tight calendar in those two weeks included lots of health care meetings, attending the funeral of Thurgood Marshall, joining the president at the National Prayer Breakfast (her schedules notes: no formal role for the First Lady), attending a week-end session at Camp David with her latest new age guru, and hosting a dinner dance for the National Governor’s Association. But nothing about the Family Leave Act that she worked so hard to pass.

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Once again, Hillary's "memory" is self-serving and historically inaccurate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 03/30/2008

Oh please, Ari. You're an agent. Lies, intimidation and greed are your stock in trade. Hardly the first agent to be a hypocrite, but give us a break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 03/28/2008
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Yeah, he would take a stand against his very brother for his own gain. What do you know of diligently inquired and committed beliefs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 03/29/2008
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"Sleep Deprived"? And yet she wants us to believe she will show good judgement at 3:00 am and have her wits about her when that horrible call comes on the red phone at the White House? Which is it, Hillary? Maybe it's sleep deprivation that prevents her from acknowledging that she had a part in the creation of the war in Iraq, too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 03/27/2008
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Thank you TheIndepen­denceParty for pointing out the obvious disconnect between the "I'm ready at 3AM when the red phone rings" and the "gee I'm just sooooo tired, I haven't had enough sleep and I didn't mean what I said..." rhetoric from this unworthy candidate.

I think this never ending democratic disaster will end by revealing exactly what the Clintons are really made of - parisng, exaggeration and just plain lying. But the sad part is that the Clintons don't care what it will do to the Democrats' chances of winning the election. It is all about them. It's "personal" as HRC said. But not the "good" personal that we all would hope for. It is the selfish "personal.­"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 03/30/2008

Time to say good-night, Hillary.

Someone else (OBAMA) will get the phone at 3 am.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 03/30/2008
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When she gave her explanation of "misspeaking" and being sleep deprived and that she's just human (which looks less and less true), you could see she was angry. She was caught and she couldn't wiggle out of it. She was snippy and dismissive.

I don't want her anywhere near the White House. How can we trust what she tells us. She's very fond of embellishment.

Peace in Northern Ireland, negotiating open borders, etc.

She's even damaging herself for her future in the Senate. I used to think she'd make a great Majority Leader. I think she'll be lucky to be re-elected to the Senate after burning the party like she has.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 03/27/2008
- Aristedes I'm a Fan of Aristedes 2 fans permalink

Maybe she's just human. Are you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 03/30/2008
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What exactly is that supposed to mean, Aristedes? Please stick to actual debate points and not inane personal attacks. And how is "maybe she's just human" a response to Bluesue's claim that she has been caught multiple times attempting to take credit for things she was only involved in peripherally? It may be human to embellish, but we hold those running for president to a higher standard, especially when those embellishments are used to try to convince the American populace that you're qualified for the job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 03/30/2008

That's your opinion and that's fine, you're entitled. Now, aren't we entitled to find out what Barack Obama learned in the Illinois State Senate? Go to: http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=837197
The article, at www.marketwire.com is entitled:
Mar 27, 2008 14:55 ET
Illinois State Archives Letter Raises Questions About Obama's Records Claim
Archives Claims It Never Has Been Asked to Maintain Records From Obama's Days as Legislator

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 03/27/2008

The Clintons have only one child correct ? Bosnia according to Clinton was unsafe. So let me ask you, what type of parent and how good of judgement is it to take your only child into a war zone ? A war zone where she states she bobbed and weaved and corkscrewed, etc. I am just wondering if Chelsea made that 3 AM call, asking her if she could shopping in Iraq, that she would say of course dear. Her Judgement as a parent really should be called in question,. I am sure she loves her child more than anything, but her judgement as a parent does not seem to be up to snuff, how can her judgement as President be any better. If this were anyone elses child, Department of Child and Family Services would charge the family with willful endangerment of a child.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 03/27/2008

FYI, according to Wikipedia:

"Funding
"Judicial Watch receives funding from mainly conservative sources. In 2002, Judicial Watch received $1.1 million from The Carthage Foundation[8] and a further $400,000 from the Sarah Scaife Foundation. Both foundations are Managed by Richard Mellon Scaife. [8] The year before the Scaife Foundation gave $1.35 million and Carthage $500,000.[­8]

"In all, between 1997 and 2002 Judicial Watch received $7,069,500 (unadjusted for inflation) in 19 grants from a handful of foundations. The bulk of this funding came from just three foundations – the Sarah Scaife Foundation, The Carthage Foundation and the John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.[8],"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 03/28/2008
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It has nothing to do with opinion...­.the fact is that Hillary lied about her arrival in Bosnia....­.sure all politicians exagerate and embellish, that's for sure....bu­t this is such an obvious blatant lie, that to come back with: well, Barack Obama did this and he did that is just silly and over reaching. How can anyone defend Clinton on this one? You can't!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 03/30/2008
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