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It was a bumpy week for the GOP frontrunners. Mitt Romney struggled to make voters comfortable with his Mormon values while uttering the M-word only once in a 20-minute speech. Rudy Giuliani was forced to come clean that he had provided taxpayer-funded chauffeur service to his then-mistress earlier than previously admitted. And Mike Huckabee was put on the hot seat by HuffPost's coverage of his role in the release of a serial rapist who went on to rape and kill at least one other woman. And yet Huckabee has surged ahead in Iowa. So, does this mean that voters are more troubled by a different Jesus and sex-on-the city than by an attempt to fudge the ugly facts of a terrible decision?

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TOOO
Warning: Rabid Monty Python fan!
10:26 PM on 12/09/2007
Can we now call him Rudolph, the Red-faced Politician?

(Yes, you can use that.)
09:32 PM on 12/09/2007
Your rhetorical question "So what does this mean" quite simply means that the "Party of Values" is waiting, hoping, & PRAYING that someone (must be Republican, of course) with Values will emerge. Ain't Gonna Happen !
06:24 PM on 12/09/2007
"So, does this mean that voters are more troubled by a different Jesus and sex-on-the city than by an attempt to fudge the ugly facts of a terrible decision?"
I hope this is a rhetorical question on your part, because for the folks who support the huckster, a lie is not a lie if it can be placed in the context of religion. Facts mean little, its all about the person, he is an elmer gantry at his worst. Religious extremists, either christian or muslim are are a pox on any society. The huckster really is an extremist, a shallow one at that, but an extremist never-the-less!
06:24 PM on 12/09/2007
Oh Arianna! You are such a Liberal!
:D
06:09 PM on 12/09/2007
WIll Ron Paul's followers be able to support the pro-war Republican candidate in the primary?
Will Mike Huckabee's religious followers be able to get behind Ghouliani or Romney? I doubt it. I see a low GOP turnout in 08. The GOP will have to count on suppressing Democratic turnout and election fraud like 04 and 00... but more of it.
03:33 PM on 12/09/2007
I have no objecton to Rudy making Judy Nathan a well kept woman while he was in office. But the tax payer provided security guard thing riles me. How do I get a publicly funded security guard for my girl friend? She wants it & she deserves it, damn it.
stevesrant
Here I am stevesrant.
01:03 PM on 12/09/2007
"So, does this mean that voters are more troubled by a different Jesus..."
Of course they are! This country was founded by - and still resonates with - thirteen colonies, each of which was aligned with a particular sect of Christianity. The incredible power (and diversity) retained by the States is the legacy of this fact. Eighty percent of Americans call themselves Christians, while only fifteen percent claim no religious affiliation. I think that we users (and bloggers) of Huffpost forget that we do not represent the dominant mindset of America. Rather, we are the liberal, even (gasp!) radical minority.
12:49 PM on 12/09/2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlF2YcnWUio
Worth seeing - direct and without obfuscations - criminals in the White House (and Congress and Rupert Murdoch media)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlF2YcnWUio
11:37 AM on 12/09/2007
I think it's a little premature to say that Huckabee surged despite the exposure of the Wayne Dumond story. That poll was taken at about the same time Huffington Post broke the story. It is unrealistic to think that Republican voters in Iowa are that tuned into the internet and alternative media. No way would this news about Huckabee and Dumond reach them so quickly.
11:13 AM on 12/09/2007
You were very good in bringing out the information on the (highly questionable) rapist parole. Now Huckabee actually stated that he chooses Jesus as a Vice President. That a Christian would consider that is even more questionable. If they believe that Jesus is King, then how can they so demean Him? Better Huckabee had said that he would seek the guidance of Jesus if elected, both for himself and for his Vice President. Religion wars are well into development in Europe where the Muslim faith is now at about 50%: they just kill those who don’t want to be Muslims, in their normal practice; they are not evangelists in the Christian sense. It seems we have come to a juncture in political life where all factions are represented. Arianna, is there a happy medium running for president or has an inside destructive force finally pushed the governments of the States and municipalities to a point of inciting high emotional tension among the citizens, high enough to make change, whether the right one or not?
11:07 AM on 12/09/2007
I wonder why the mainstream media pundits are giving Huckabee a pass on his religious beliefs. Can this country elect a person who flatly refuses to believe in evolution. Surely, his religious views, contrary to what he says, will affect his policy decisions were he to gain the White House. Bush objected to federal funding for stem cell research that could have conceivably developed the science to cure several of my major medical afflictions. That was a direct result of his born-again evangelical background. And will the mainstream media pundits ask Romney if, for example, he is knowledgable about the Mormon "magical garment" worn by adults in that community? Does Romney wear such a garment under his business suits? My goodness, what kind of possible president are we listening to?
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10:40 AM on 12/09/2007
I think it means that very little attention was paid to the Huckabee matter in the MSM.

There is a WONDERFUL piece by Eric Alterman in the new issue of "The Nation" that describes the way the MSM has been handling Republicans with kid gloves and sticking it to Democrats by telling falsehoods and half-truths.

He gives several quite dismaying examples. The most depressing one is a comment by somebody at the Washington Post that rationalizes that rag's publishing crapola about Obama being a Muslim (with no effort to be factual) by saying that so what if the piece is one-sided, that is GOOD because it gives OBAMA the opportunity to set people straight when he responds to the crapola. (how really swell of them to give Obama this "opportunity!"). Only they didn't call their stuff "crapola." SHEESH, that is the kind of stuff that Democrats are up against.

No wonder--given that kind of basic structure of these corporate-driven garbage-pushers-- that the startling revelations about Huckabee and the murderer were given little space or attention in the MSM.
10:08 AM on 12/09/2007
I would like to know how Huckabee can go from 3% to 30% in two weeks?
WITH NO MONEY?
He has no campaign workers and is broke.

Someone please answer this.

WTF?

Ron Paul raised 5 million in one day and is up to 11 million in 2 months, yet they ignore this...
All the other contenders ask him after the debates, whats his secret.
They can see what the MSM cant?
WTF?
I know the campaign wants this obvious ignoring to continue,
This has ALWAYS been Rons tactic..
He drops the bomb right before elections.
He uses their biased views against them as a campaign tactic.
Lemons into lemonade if you will.
He has done it several times.
But I still get annoyed at the coverage of losers who have not campaigned or made money.
They do not deserve attention.
Ron is the only candidate to put his donations to his campaign up on the web in "real-time."
You can click and see what his campaign is worth.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
09:46 AM on 12/09/2007
I'm so VERY proud, Arianna, of being allowed to even just contribute as a commenter here at HuffingtonPost, BECAUSE of all it's accomplished of late and because of the nature of this site from the days of it's origin.

Let there be NO doubt left in the industry, that in addition to having become one of the greatest FREE SPEECH havens of OUR time, HuffingtonPost HAS made it a 'mission' to restore some integrity to both the words of prevaricating politicians and THEIR journalist sychophants, that would hide TRUE facts and make up their own.

If ever again I imply I might have had enough, Arianna, please - please take it with a grain of salt, and KNOW it's just not so.


Thank you ALL at HuffingtonPost.
09:46 AM on 12/09/2007
Huckabee is popular in Iowa because he is from a farming state. It won't play out that way in non farming states.
As for the poll showing Huckabee in second nationally....that is a result of Republicans dissatisfaction with Romney and Guilliani. It is a protest vote and won't last.