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(SANTIAGO, CHILE) A surprising number of the conservatives I've met here -- starting with President Piñera -- talk about the goal of eliminating poverty in their country by the end of the decade. The number of U.S. politicians -- including liberal ones -- eager to have that conversation has been dwindling, even as the number of Americans living below the poverty line has been growing (it's now 1 in 7). Piñera exudes a sense of urgency, as though there is not a moment to waste. His line of attack mirrors the approach he took with the trapped Chilean miners. His experts offered him three different strategies to try to get them out. Do all three at the same time, he ordered. "That," he told me, "is what I would do if it were my children in the mine." How different things might be here if our leaders took the same approach to the millions of Americans trapped by the economic crisis.

 
 
 

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(SANTIAGO, CHILE) A surprising number of the conservatives I've met here -- starting with President Piñera -- talk about the goal of eliminating poverty in their country by the end of the decade. Th...
(SANTIAGO, CHILE) A surprising number of the conservatives I've met here -- starting with President Piñera -- talk about the goal of eliminating poverty in their country by the end of the decade. Th...
 
 
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WillofthePeople
Do YOU consent to toxic govt? Change ur thinking!!
10:56 PM on 12/19/2010
The time has come for all of us to STOP trusting politicians completely. How about a governing system without them... with REAL TRANSPARENCY and ACCOUNTABILITY... one in which all of us are "EXERCISING our RIGHT to CONSENT" to have REAL "governing by the consent of the governed" instead of this bogus bs system where we are obstructed from doing so. Google "RIGHTtoCONSENT" to learn and teach it. Read the testimonials to see how others are resonating to it.
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dlo2
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09:06 PM on 12/19/2010
We have lapsed into a nation that is too quickly taking on the characteristics of what the third world looked like in the '80s with increasing socioeconomic disequilibrium and a plutocratic society evolving into a tiny middle class, apathetic internationally oriented elites, and a burgeoning lower class of people losing hope... who are without jobs, without health care and without sufficient food...and a water supply that may increasingly become less potable. Much of our past social stability in this country had to do with rising expectations and the sense that if one worked very hard and sacrificed, wealth and opportunity could avail itself to every American. The light is dimmer in this era and the elite is going to have to rethink its priorities...(the domestic situation in particular): what society will become should hope dwindle and social unrest climb in the next years among those who might have had opportunities in other times. We are all linked and the fabric of humanity, whether the strands are cotton or silk, must blend and coexist together...harmony and balance will mean not only our national survival but the nurture and feeding of each one of us. The well-being of our fellow Americans is, in essence, the well-being of each one of us.

Chile is doing well with its enormous export business and they are wise to recognize that trickle down to their poor rural and urban inhabitants will not stabilize society..more is needed.
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MaryBethC3
09:58 PM on 12/21/2010
I'm so glad I returned to this article and read your post Excellent. FANNED & faved
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Tierce
We need less government! That empowers the ppl!
08:07 PM on 12/19/2010
If we all work together, things will turn out well for all of us. It is a big challenge to change the "Winner takes All" mentality that permeates this country and as well as the common person making that change it is a must that the leaders of our Government and the leaders of our financial system come to terms with the fact that there is an abundance and plenty for all.
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Electroguy
Somewhere in the middle, but now leaning right..
07:49 PM on 12/19/2010
Poverty is bred when people are not educated. It is nurtured when people are given handouts and entitlements. And it becomes full bloom when people are allowed to live without, at bare minimum, giving back what they have used.
Men learn through adversity. Yet when 'adversity' is 3 squares and programs that support you at a poverty level, but do not ever encourage you to get out of it, then many will not leave it. I would not call what we do for poverty 'helping' as much as much as I would call it 'putting blinders on, throwing cash at it, and hoping that it becomes someone elses problem...'
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Krisgi
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07:48 PM on 12/19/2010
Piñera has guaranteed his own political longevity with the miners. It´s the spectacle that sells. But poverty is not about dragging people out of a hole only once: it´s about keeping them out, generation after generation, by changing every single aspect of a nation´s economic structure and functioning. It´s a long shot at best.
06:51 PM on 12/19/2010
The article makes an interesting comparison between US and Chile. Having seen first hand for decades the true cost of poverty I find that the public perception of poverty and the reality are far apart. Until the public understands that poverty, especially intergenerational poverty is a crushing experience and more than a stubborn unwillingness to pull one's self up by the boot straps, we can expect little change. Putting aside the human costs for a moment, the societal costs of wide spread poverty are crippling and if we ever hope to become competitive in the global economy we are going to need to utilize all our resources and that means human resources. The number of people who never make their contribution due to the shackles of poverty is something we can no longer afford. Just to start the class size in k-6 needs to be limited to 12 as bodies leave school during high school the minds have quit years before due to failure to engage them early on.
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offred
A biocitizen is 3/5 of a corporate citizen
06:05 PM on 12/19/2010
Is there a candidate that will bring us the War on Poverty 2.0?

Lyndon Johnson occasionally did some things right, except for that whole Vietnam-staying the course thing.
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WarriorLemming
An avalanche On Republican's B*llsh*t Mountain
05:45 PM on 12/19/2010
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Piñera exudes a sense of urgency, as though there is not a moment to waste. His line of attack mirrors the approach he took with the trapped Chilean miners. His experts offered him three different strategies to try to get them out. Do all three at the same time, he ordered. "That," he told me, "is what I would do if it were my children in the mine."

I was quite an emotional experience watching the miners being rescued and to see their President waiting for each to surface I could hardly hold back the tears. Yes, if our President Obama would show so much concern and visual involvement for those effected by the economy and unemployment it would make the world of difference. That's the man I saw campaigning but he been tamped down or emotionally withdrawn since 2008.
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MaryBethC3
05:41 PM on 12/19/2010
Who'd a thunk it. America the beautiful could take a big lesson from Chili. As we prepare to give tax hikes to millionaires and billionaires, we own the distinction of being #1 in child poverty in the industrialized world.

As we extend the Bush tax cuts to the wealthiest, our children remain hungry, bold measures to help the middle class are non-existent, and our elected officials shrug their shoulders and say "We couldn't help it. They made us do it."

I don't buy. I will never buy it. I'll never forget.

President Pinera is a noble leader.
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captnEarl
08:17 PM on 12/19/2010
we as a people can take lessons from at least parts of most countries and peoples on earth ..we the US are not blessed with ALL knowledge and wisdom..are not always right and for sure don't always do the right things both at home and abroad.

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MaryBethC3
09:54 PM on 12/21/2010
thanks and back to you. You're right of course......it seems others are doing better and better these days than the US or is it me?
04:53 PM on 12/19/2010
It was the previous generations that brought us social security, medicare, medcaid, food stamps and welfare for poor families. The baby boomers (and I am one) who are in power are too selfish. I only hope the next generation has more compassion.
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06:53 PM on 12/19/2010
Ronald Reagan and his supporters were NOT boomers and that is where the greed became sanctioned.
04:07 PM on 12/19/2010
Just look at the tax bill, American leadership has no desire to seriously help the disadvantaged. In fact quite the opposite is true.
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PBMac
07:58 PM on 12/19/2010
This is it in a nutshell.
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Electroguy
Somewhere in the middle, but now leaning right..
08:00 PM on 12/19/2010
You cannot lump all people at the poverty level into the word 'disadvantaged'. That is the fallicy that removes the word 'responsibility' from their lives. Some are disadvantaged by fate, many by their own personal hand. A person who drops out of school, is not disadvantaged as much as they are irresponsible.
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demar
03:58 PM on 12/19/2010
This is a link to the Democratic Party platform of 2008. Liberal, progressive, moderate, blue dog, conservative, DLC. Does this document represent what we would like to achieve? I am tired of politicians telling us what to believe in. I want politicians to do what we agree on. Enough polls. Let's pay close attention to the nomination process and construct a party platform that we hold our politicians to.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/5580817/2008-Democratic-Party-Platform-Renewing-Americas-Promise
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MaryBethC3
05:44 PM on 12/19/2010
X2 Fanned
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captnEarl
08:19 PM on 12/19/2010
now this is something I fully agree with

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Guitarsandmore
devoted father, community activist, musician, reti
03:14 PM on 12/19/2010
Well said. The trouble with American politicians is that when it comes to war, poverty, medical insurance, losing homes, etc. THEY HAVE NO SKIN IN THE GAME. To them it IS a game. My solution is that as long as we are at war, every politician in congress has to have a close relative fighting. And I mean FIGHTING, not sitting in an office is safety.
As long as there is one American without health insurance, then EVERYONE IN CONGRESS doesn't get health insurance. they can buy their own.
No skin in the game, and we are having a chess match between politicians who have nothing to lose and everything to game.
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unfoxworthy
We:ScottOlsens,the misfits,out to change the world
04:03 PM on 12/19/2010
Dennis,
This will never happen without the American people taking to the streets and shutting the country down like the French did.
I agree with your premise, but we should take it one step further. No Govt employee (as a public servant) is given health insurance better then his (or her) lowest compensated constituent.
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Piraticalsimian
I went to college AND the school of hard knocks
05:15 PM on 12/19/2010
Unfoxworthy: you are absolutely correct!
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offred
A biocitizen is 3/5 of a corporate citizen
06:06 PM on 12/19/2010
That's why they call it PLAYING politics.
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Realbluesky
03:11 PM on 12/19/2010
I just don't get it. If I was a wealthy businessman, I would want the middle and working classes to do well. If they were doing well, it would be better for business. But this country has it upside down. Everything our politicians do is for business interests to the detriment of the less fortunate. Henry Ford had it right. He paid his workers a wage that would enable them to buy his product.
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ashleypell
You don't need a PhD
03:29 PM on 12/19/2010
Everybody doing well is no longer the game. The very wealthy are intent on creating an American aristocracy with a few of them at the top and the rest of us groveling for crumbs.
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MossyOak
03:46 PM on 12/19/2010
I firmly believe this to be the case. Right now you have two choices: go for broke and take it all, or go broke and give it all up.
03:56 PM on 12/19/2010
There's certainly plenty of greed to be found among our fellow citizens, but I'm coming more and more to the conclusion that many of the very well off are victims of their own propaganda. For many years they've been telling themselves (and all the rest of us) that we live in a great meritocracy. Excellence and hard work produce wealth and ineptitude and sloth lead to poverty. Some of my aquaintances who've been successful with their own small businesses get really passionate on the subject.

It's human nature. If someone has done well, he wants to think it's due to his superior virtues. It's easy for them to be blind to the twin facts that: 1) They may have caught a good break which made all the difference for them and 2) Many who are smart, talented and hardworking did not catch such a break.
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Venicelady
Ignorance is NOT bliss.
09:49 PM on 12/19/2010
Or, they inherited their wealth.