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Posted: 06/26/11 01:00 AM ET

This week brought two high-profile examples of what has become the president's trademark approach to leadership -- "the fierce urgency of sometime later" -- as he kicked the proverbial can down the road on Afghanistan and gay marriage. On the former, his limited drawdown plan was derided as "cautious" -- not by anti-war activists, but by a GOP presidential candidate (Jon Huntsman). More evidence that opposition to our near-ten-year incursion there has moved way beyond left and right. On the latter, Obama once again stuck with his half-step positioning, refusing to endorse the then-still-pending New York bill on same-sex marriage while lauding the fight for "change that is lasting" -- a stance that continues to place him to the right of Dick Cheney. In both cases, the president is standing on the wrong side of history -- trailing behind the growing consensus of those he presumes to lead.

 
 
 

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10:46 PM on 06/26/2011
In 2006 the Republican strategist pointed out that the only job the Republicans had going forward
is to "make the Democrats look bad to their constituants" I am sure your party does not appreciate
you enough.
10:43 PM on 06/26/2011
This war only began in earnest in 2009. Since the Bush Jr. let bin laden go, refused to fund it, and took the special forces to Iraq. How come never a blame for the perpetrators?
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10:37 PM on 06/26/2011
I don't agree. He did the best thing he could do right now. When he wins the next election he may rivisit ths situation.
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OR GLEZ
10:27 PM on 06/26/2011
I'M A DEM AND DIDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA THE FIRST TIME AND WON'T IN 2012, THIS MAN HAS BEEN A DISASTER FOR OUR PARTY AND COUNTRY. WISHED HE'D RESIGN SOON. THE REPUBLICANS BEAT HIM IN THE MIDTERMS BY JUST SAYING NO.. OBAMA NEEDS A PRIMARY CHALLENGER, THAT'S MY HOPE.
10:13 PM on 06/26/2011
Arriana, Arriana. You KNOW he has to say those thngs. You KNOW he is for same-sex marriage. The President has to juggle many things (gas, wars, Republican opinions,etc) and doesn't have the luxury of an 'Obama Post' where he can just safely post opinions without consequences as you do. He has to do what is politically expedient for now. Give it some time and try some understanding.
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DruDeadly
Watching history being made!
09:52 PM on 06/26/2011
I don't know. We just have to face reality that no matter who's president, things are easier said than done. I don't think there is any president who has faced more opposition from the Republicans than President Obama. We need to have his back.
09:33 PM on 06/26/2011
The sad truth is that Obama will be re-elected. The corporatist oligarchy is thrilled with him, and won't field anything more than a token challenger.

But it hardly matters. Things won't change in this country until they've gotten worse, but once the American public gets completely fed up with our leadership, we'll demand change in a manner that our leadership will have to respect. That's the way it always happens.
seraphimblade
To fight the war on terror, stop being afraid.
09:54 PM on 06/26/2011
The "last resort" was put in the Declaration of Independence for a reason:

"...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

Hopefully, it does not come to that. But if our government continues to be destructive to our lives, our liberty, and our ability to pursue happiness, we do have the right to get rid of it.
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littleblackcat
11:22 PM on 06/26/2011
The unfortunate truth is that the people do not seem to have the gumption TO DO as the Constitution directs them.
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Larry Andre
A system of morality which is based on relative em
08:24 PM on 06/26/2011
. Obama made it worse along with the Dems in Congress when they controlled everything­. Remember "you cannot spend your way to prosperity­, nor can you borrow your way out of debt". The problem is Obama' s because during his tenure as president the Dems increased t he national debt by 40% already, and it is expected if he gets a second term it will double. That is not proper leadership­. The Dems have had good leadership in the past but not this president. Obama reminds me of a child who will not take responsibility for his actions always blaming someone else. Every president in the past has not blamed their predecessor but knuckle down and move forward. Something different about the child in the White House
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aspertame2
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09:23 PM on 06/26/2011
"Every president in the past has not blamed their predecesso­r..."

(Boggle) I'm hoping someone will find the time to scare up abundant quotes for you. Wow.

Oh, and name a good leader of the Democratic Party. I double dare ya.
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Larry Andre
A system of morality which is based on relative em
09:59 PM on 06/26/2011
Ok Name a good Democrat leader, It's a while ago but here goes There have been many, how about Thomas Jefferson. LOL
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littleblackcat
11:29 PM on 06/26/2011
There has never before been a President who HAD THE REASONS TO BLAME HIS PREDECESSOR that this President has! No President has ever had his predecessor waste a surplus, start two illegal wars without paying for them, done so much to transfer wealth to the uppermost 2%, and done so much harm to the average person!
No President has ever before had the sheer, ugly obstructionism thrown up in front of him, none before has EVER had the opposition party stand there with their ugly bare face hanging out and declare that their single goal was to BREAK him and make sure he was a one-term President.

NO other President has EVER faced that kind of hatred.
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Larry Andre
A system of morality which is based on relative em
02:16 AM on 06/27/2011
You really believe that load of fertilizer you have just tried to pass off. How about Andrew Johnson just after the Civil War, Warren G Harding, Jimmie Carter, LBJ, Richard Nixon, Get your head out of the hot sand you'll cook what is left of your brain.
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Larry Andre
A system of morality which is based on relative em
02:23 AM on 06/27/2011
Plus your guy has done nothing to stop the wars, he has continued on with the same foreign policy, wasted an additional $4.5 trillion on phony stimulus, come out strong with glowing words prior to negotiations then folded like a cheap suitcase.He has created unrest in the Middle East, started one war with Libya, is secretly bombing Yemen, drone attacks in Pakistan, spending trillions of dollars on programs and plans that have not worked, Incompetence by a factor of 10 explains Obama. Golfs more than any president in history, takes more vacations than any president in history, cannot give a speech without a teleprompter, cannot think on his feet has to have a prepared text. Under his tenure the economy has gotten worse the recession ended in June 2009 but Obama has fostered fear in the hearts of American business so things have gotten worse. And you say he is hated because he is mixed race. He is hated because he is incompetent
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j main
Reality is just a collective hunch, anyways.
08:15 PM on 06/26/2011
The citizens of the USA have been asleep since the '60's and '70's. Now they are waking up because the policies enacted in that time have led to the current situation. Now, everyone is disappointed and worried. Before the state of the country improves, it's citizenry will have to behave in a more evolved manner. To only blame the politicians is tantamount to abdicating responsibility.
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Holymolly
Emotionally intellingent
08:34 PM on 06/26/2011
Yeah righ, tantamount.
08:03 PM on 06/26/2011
Mr. Obama is a political confection...designed to make guilt-ridden leftists assuage their anxieties. The man has no experience, what did you expect?
08:47 PM on 06/26/2011
It has nothing to do with experience, but rather, point of view. He thinks all the political strife is just childish behavior. He's wrong. Some people stand for those policies that are for the common good, and some don't.
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Cory111
Life is truly good...
10:08 PM on 06/26/2011
Hey Horst, how about we talk about your experience.
10:48 PM on 06/26/2011
...luckily for you, I'm not your President.But on a more sober note, someday I hope to become a community organizer.
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FatherKindly
07:51 PM on 06/26/2011
Cuomo for President.
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Holymolly
Emotionally intellingent
08:32 PM on 06/26/2011
He's a sfaccim!
07:39 PM on 06/26/2011
He's the biggest presidential disappointment since William Henry Harrison caught pneumonia at his own inauguration and died.
08:03 PM on 06/26/2011
Best post of the week....
08:42 PM on 06/26/2011
It's a symptom of (unreasonably) high expectations.
06:42 PM on 06/26/2011
I first met Arianna in 1982 when she came to Sacramento to interview Governor Brown and my impression of her was that she was a very bright young reporter. During these years I followed her career and I must say that my first impression of her has not changed. I commend her business prowess, selling her founding nespaper to AOL for three hundred seventy five million dollars. That's a smart cookie, even at times I may disagree with her, I find the above article to be right on the mark. Mr. Obama came into the Presidency promising change, yet some of the changes he made are ridiculous such as the increase in government limousines by 73%-some Obamites may call this peanust- the people in the government payroll that made more than $178,000.00 per year were in the few hundreds and today they are almost two thousand of them-again the Obamites will laugh at this- he and his wife are useing the Presidential fleet of planes more often than if they were taxis, All these travels at a time when the economy is stagnant and the unemployment is rising instead of falling. If these were some of the examples of Obama's cahnge, most Americans would have forsaken this kind of change,
10:49 PM on 06/26/2011
She used to work for Newt Gingrich.
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LastAngryWoman
waiting for godot
05:20 AM on 06/27/2011
I forget what you eat...oh yeah...responses...you feed off of responses...oops...I did it again. Nm.
06:11 PM on 06/26/2011
Our President has turned out to be one of the greatest pitch-men of his time: now the pitch is that "he needs another term to get the things done that he wants to get done."

I'm starting to wonder if those who will make excuses for him no matter what will be telling the rest of us 20 years from now that "we really need to elect Malia and Sasha" to finally accomplish what Obama speaks so beautifully (if vacantly) about.
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Cory111
Life is truly good...
06:16 PM on 06/26/2011
He will have another term to continue cleaning up Bush's mess.

You lost the last presidential election and you will lose the next one. The good news is it will help you to become a good loser.
07:07 PM on 06/26/2011
The problem isn't Obama. Nor was it Bush. Nor was it Clinton. The cause of our economic malaise is deregulation. We are 40 years into the roll back regulations era and it is bad for business. Well, it's great for corporate profit taking. But it just does not trickle down.

Fair and balanced regulation is actually good for business. Want proof? Anybody remember the 1950s?
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Larry Andre
A system of morality which is based on relative em
08:19 PM on 06/26/2011
I was going to say get your head out of your a** but I will say get your head out of the sand. Obama made it worse along with the Dems in Congress when they controlled everything. Remember "you cannot spend your way to prosperity, nor can you borrow your way out of debt". The problem is Obama' s because during his tenure as president the Dems increased t he national debt by 40% already, and it is expected if he gets a second term it will double. That is not proper leadership. The Dems have had good leadership in the past but not this president.
10:02 PM on 06/26/2011
You may or may not have a point, however keep in mind that Obama is far from unique in this respect.

George Bush said almost exactly the same thing for the 2004 elections.

In Bush's case he spent that next 4 years digging the biggest hole in America's economy ever done to that point... and... he pretty much insured that the President to follow him would have to spend even more to dig us out of that hole.

The economic policies of the Bush administration... looking the other way while encouraging Financial Instrument regulators to do the same, participating in reducing financial oversight and regulation... decreasing our tax base by close to a Trillion dollars during his ''reign'' (increasing the wealth of the wealthy while bringing the middle class to their knees) and simultaneously starting two wars, one of which was based entirely on lies... the other of which could have been over in months if we'd sent 50,000 Marines in - gotten Bin Laden - gotten out. Those wars have cost us Trillions... and to this day, because they were started in such an ill-advised fashion, we have still not been able to end them safely.

Bush required two terms to create this mess we're living with... at least give Obama the same length of time to clean it up.

Or do you believe it takes less time to clean up the spilled milk than it did to knock over the bottle?
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littleblackcat
11:34 PM on 06/26/2011
Excellent comments. Thank you.
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DustyMills
A liberal tree-hugging Oregonian...
05:49 PM on 06/26/2011
I think far to often, we allow the politicians & the president to set policy.......and that's because many people just sit back, happy that someone is taking care of it. What so many people fail to recognize is, this is our country, it belong to the people, not a few hundred politicians who happened to get themselves elected.

The state of the nation leads directly back to us.....if we have allowed our elected officials to do whatever they want, without saying one word to them whether we approve or not, then we condone their actions.

I am dumbfounded that Americans can't seem to get themselves organized online to flood the oval office & members of Congress with messages when any matter of national importance is being legislated......our politicians need to really know how the people feel, and not by some poll that speaks on behalf of a thousand people, but from millions of people.

Let's get organized.