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Posted: 07/24/11 01:17 AM ET

This week, Norway's peace was shattered by homegrown terror; the Murdochs dodged inquiries -- and a pie -- in Parliament; and Michele Bachmann's migraines gave her campaign a splitting headache. In Washington, the "Grand Bargain" on the debt ceiling fell apart, leading President Obama to lament being "left at the altar" and John Boehner to blame the failure on "different visions for our country." But, in truth, neither side is addressing the simple mathematical reality that we will never be able to reduce the deficit unless we prioritize growth. Trying to eliminate our debt by spending cuts that will reduce consumer demand and tax revenues, and prolong the recession, is like deciding to remove the gas tank from a stalled car and hope for the best instead of restarting it with jumper cables. Elsewhere, today is the first day gays can marry in New York so, unlike the "left at the altar" president, same-sex couples will finally be able to tie the knot. Congratulations, newlyweds!

 
 
 

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jenkait
Elizabeth Warren for President!
09:42 PM on 07/25/2011
If I may add, I actually might name my firstborn Arianna...
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jenkait
Elizabeth Warren for President!
09:38 PM on 07/25/2011
I always enjoy Arianna Huffington's Sunday Roundup!

My Dad and I are both fans of her work and enjoy seeing her appear on various political shows. I was fortunate enough to see her speak in San Rafael in March (I made a road trip out of it...I live in Vancouver, BC). Ms Huffington was brilliant and funny, I loved her! I admit at that time I had been a bit nervous about the AOL merge, but I definitely realized she hadn't sold HP to go lie in the sun...she had more ideas, more goals and a lot she wished to accomplish. I respect and admire the woman. I left the auditorium phoning my Dad, who wanted to hear all about it!

Keep up the awesome work, Ms.Huffington!!
09:52 AM on 07/25/2011
I don't know who is the mathematical wizard in the Republican Party, but if USA falls into his/her spell is going to be a disaster... Puerto Rico is their case study- same mathematical equation, no results. So I hope the President's magic wand is strong, flexible, and he does follows Harry Potter strategy.
09:23 AM on 07/25/2011
Unless we have a balance of of Taxes with spending we will never solve the debt problem we have I am sorry but the Republican has been the greatest offender under Republican Presidents and leader ship we have had the greatest imbalance of spending to taxes We can not continue on this path of taxes cuts with increased spending. Tax cut have never created a job nor will they ever we put public debt burden on the work class and have kill our consuming base. Spending cut with out increased taxes will not ever solve our problem
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NRMLUNIT
BOLD AS LOVE
03:59 AM on 07/25/2011
Love ya Arianna
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DrJykell
Truth hunter
01:43 AM on 07/25/2011
Take a look at america---You find political leaders willing to demonize religion on camera---fear mongering about the threat of sharia law being imposed in America and around the world---when the only institutions trying to take over and impose their will on govts is the banking industry..

People are being convinced religion is the evil--pushing ppl to favor harsh policies like war and torture,, and now that white christian extremists get in the news--well it's just one crazy maniac doing this--and he wasn't really christian--which is true about both terrorist actions...

All the while debt is being piled up in this war on terror--which names a jihadist group specifically and the while the bankers are moving in and imposing austerity on populations---How many ppl are beginning to believe austerity is the sharia law--and that industry oligarchs are manipulating all these jihadist and christian extremists into demonizing the only thing that could save us---better governance---most countries don't have a military industrial complex to fundas they rely soley on aid from wealthier nations for it--which is paid back thru resource access--privatized water, power and prisons--construction projects--for multi national corporations...

The american public has lost their govt which is being taken over by bankers thru debt--and their now imposing an austerity program(sharia law) on the population---right under the peoples noses!
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
10:33 PM on 07/24/2011
"""But, in truth, neither side is addressing the simple mathematical reality that we will never be able to reduce the deficit unless we prioritize growth. """

um... mathematically sustainable growth is... 0%. Sustainable growth does not exist in nature. Only for cancer but eventually the host dies. That is not something to aspire to. The debt cancer will have to be kicked down a few notches if America is to survive. And that includes tax increases.

Please don't use math in a sentence then not understand math.

Here's a video that might help. "Arithmetic, Population and Energy": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY .

Probably the best answer to a math deficient education and how discussions about "growth" are meaningless unless we know what growth actually means. It's about an hour. There's math at the beginning but the rest is about the ramifications of this very simple math.
11:50 AM on 07/25/2011
Repudiation of sovereign debt would also reduce the deficit but be very painful for the nation for several years forcing us to live within our means.
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pangborn
09:22 PM on 07/24/2011
Arianna:

Tens of thousands of comments but has anyone taken a hard look at the Federal Budget. Some specifics:

Corporation for Public Broadcasting - $445M
AMTRAK Subsidies - $1.565B
International Fund for Ireland - $17M
National Endowments for Arts and Humanities - $335M
Woodrow Wilson Center -$20M
Title X Family Planning -$318M
DC Assistance - $210M
Assistance to Egypt -$250M
Exchange Programs for Alaskan Natives - $9M
Appalachian Regional Commission - $76M
DC Metro - $150M
Travel Budget -$15B
Vehicle Budget -$3B
Hope VI - $250M
Agency for International Dev - $1.4B
Community Dev Fund - $4.5B
New Starts Transit - $2B
Intercity Rail Grants - $2.5B
USDA Sugar Program $14M
National Community Services Act Programs -$1.2B
11:28 PM on 07/24/2011
What's your point? Are you suggesting we should stop all infrastructure and education spending by the federal gov't?

It seems like you want to push us back into the 1800's.
09:19 PM on 07/24/2011
What a bunch ove fighting children
09:10 PM on 07/24/2011
Obama doesn't have to worry about 'being left at the altar'. The GOP has screwed him "premaritally" and his offering up of Social Security to the grand bargain shows little political common sense.
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SoylentGreenIsPeople
You know how to use Google too !
08:34 PM on 07/24/2011
Simple:

1) Conservati­­ves want to beat Obama and figure the higher the unemployme­­nt the better to beat Obama. anyone who becomes unemployed is a liberal, so who cares. Grover Norquist will never be unemployed­­, so driving the unemployme­­nt rate to 50% would be fine with him.

2) getting the deficit reduced by slashing programs while Democrats are involved will make it possible to cut taxes as soon as Republican­­s win back the House, Senate, and White House and the deficit can be increased to $2t annually because Obama proved trillion dollar deficits don't matter.

Look, it is impossible to get any robust job creation going without tax hikes, and where we are now, big tax hikes.

NEVER HAVE TAX CUTS DRIVEN JOB CREATION.

The only robust job creation I can find in the US began with significan­­t TAX HIKES. Unless taxes were already way up at at marginal rates of 70-90%.

The job creation has become weaker as tax rates have fallen over time.

When a nation can't sacrifice to pay taxes, then it can't sacrifice to be capitalist and forgo consumptio­­n to build up the public capital assets a great nation requires.

The general view that reflexivel­­y seeks to cut taxes at every turn suggests a nation in decline, a nation that is consuming its capital before dying in bankruptcy­­.
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DrJykell
Truth hunter
01:19 AM on 07/25/2011
Exactly--The govt needs to create situations that make job creation the best choice---Taxing the wealthy forced them into re-investing profits to avoid paying taxes---How this narrative came to be- tax cuts improve the chances of job creation---really doesn't make any sense---because of you come into money--and at the end of year you know that your accountant will tell you how much your going to be liable for on tax day---unless you invest here--here--and here--to write off as much of your tax liability as you can--The bush tax cuts killed all that--which kills investment and decreases demand(wages)---5 decades of demonizing the price of labor has cought up with America---and what did they replace demand with---credit cards--which now has crippled the economy-govts have shot america's economy in both feet and if you look back at all the misleading info to hide this fact over the yrs--you see an American population that has been taken for a ride--taken advantage of---because they never put two and two together looking thru a maze of cultural and financial divisions put up specifically to confused..
07:38 PM on 07/24/2011
Since 1972, Congress has adopted measures to raise the ceiling debt for only six months 38 times. Why is it so crucial that they not do it again in this tight situation.
07:32 PM on 07/24/2011
So far the only actual plan that Obama has put on the table was his budget proposal back in February that was shot down by 97% of Congress--which includes his own party of course. I've seen nothing laid out, no detail, from anyone on the Democrat side. It seems to be the Republicans doing all the work here--and I'm an Independent who truly wanted Obama to succeed as President. I've listened to both sides, thought Chris Wallac's interview with Geithner today told me all I need to know: "We must get a plan that goes past the election." Pretty clear the reasoning behind that.
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edejan
07:58 PM on 07/24/2011
The HOUSE is supposed to come up with a plan...NOT THE PRESIDENT. After it passes the House and Senate, then he only needs to sign it. Unfortunately thanks to the Teapublicans, the House can't get its act together to create legislation.
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Lark817
expat in Mexico
09:13 PM on 07/24/2011
LOL! How can you think so hard and be so wrong?
06:39 PM on 07/24/2011
How right you are, Ms. Huffington, about the economy and how to fix it. Spending cuts are cutting the nation's throat. Eliminating the egregious tax cuts can help. But increased investments in infrastructure and research will make all the difference in creating jobs. Then the deficit will take care of itself.

The Democrats are on the right track and all the Republicans can do is derail the economy, the people and the president. just my opinion, but a well-thought out one.
06:39 PM on 07/24/2011
What is it about our elected officials that they simply are not listening to the MAJORITY of the citizens of this country? They have been posturing and posing for the last several weeks and NOTHING is getting done.
We, the citizens, have been held hostage to the intransigiencies of our elected government. We have listened, watched, read about the debt ceiling ad infinitum. How much more can we take of these kindergarten shenanigans? Most Republicans, Democrats and Independents are saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
Work on CREATING JOBS - that is what we sent you to Washington to do. You want more revenues in the coffers - get people back to work.
I have been unemployed for 6 months after 33 years of non-stop working and paying taxes. And, I am still paying taxes on my UI benefits. It is so hard for me to make by Cobra benefits payments which are almost $500 a month. And I still have not found work.
What they are doing to the citizens of this country is UNFAIR .
Raise that debit ceiling for at least 2 years - I don't know about the rest of you, but I do not want to go through again in 3 or 6 or 12 months.
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edejan
07:59 PM on 07/24/2011
Agree! Fanned and faved.
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Lark817
expat in Mexico
09:08 PM on 07/24/2011
Agreed again! Fanned and faved.