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The Buck Stops Here: How the LA County Sheriff's Participation in Immigration Enforcement is Hurting Community Policing and Public Safety

Posted: 02/16/2012 8:11 am

For the last few years, I have been engaging fellow law enforcement leaders in a dialogue about sensible immigration reform. Immigration is an issue that affects our work as cops on a daily basis. But, sometimes I'm asked whether the fact that law enforcement is engaged in immigration enforcement really has an impact on victims or witnesses coming forward or not. The tragedy of sexual abuse of school children at Miramonte Elementary School, a part of the Los Angeles Unified School district and located in a largely poor Latino neighborhood, has, sadly, answered that question once and for all.

The case involves two longtime teachers at the school who were arrested for committing lewd acts toward a number of students in disturbing instance of sexual abuse that occurred over several years. Many of the students at Miramonte and/or their parents are undocumented immigrants. Last week as the abuse story was unfolding, parents at the school told the Associated Press that they were afraid to talk to the police about the case because they feared deportation through the "Secure Communities" program. Alejandra Manuel, the mother of a student in one of the accused teacher's class, said "We're afraid to speak with the Sheriff and be deported. Anything can happen." The mother added, "We don't even want to go to the meetings at the school because they're full of police." (Translation is mine.)

The school falls within an unincorporated section of Los Angeles County that is patrolled by the L.A. County Sheriff's Office (LASO). Sheriff Lee Baca has long been a supporter of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) programs that target undocumented immigrants. One such program was the 287g that operated in the jail. Under an agreement between LASO and ICE, his personnel were trained to do interviews of people arrested, and if the officers discovered that the person was unauthorized to be in the country, they would refer them to ICE for deportation proceedings. The Sheriff later had a spat with ICE when ICE changed the 287g agreements without consulting him and he refused to operate under the new agreement.

However, when ICE began implementing the other program, Secure Communities (S-Comm), the Sheriff was one of the first in line in California to make the program happen. The S-Comm program takes the fingerprints of everyone booked into jail and sends them to ICE. ICE then evaluates them and determines whether or not to request a detainer on the person, which often times ends up in the deportation of the individual.

The 287g program is in place in only about 70 agencies nationwide, while Secure Communities will be in place across the entire country by next year. 287g has always been voluntary and Secure Communities started out the same, but ICE announced last year that it will be mandatory and the Sheriff has been one of the program's strongest proponents. S-Comm was supposed to be a program to target the most serious of offenders, but the figures of those arrested, processed and deported, tell a different story. In fact, the majority of people deported through S-Comm have either committed only a minor offense or no crime at all.

ICE and the Sheriff would tell you that the program has identified quite a few serious criminals. What they fail to acknowledge is that these offenders would have been identified any way through other programs and processes in place. What they don't want to acknowledge is that this program has been an inexpensive way (since the counties, not the federal government, pay for detaining the immigrants) for ICE to claim that the Administration is being tough on immigration enforcement, and to rapidly increase deportations. Since this Administration took over in 2009, deportations have been higher than any previous administration. But the negative impact on families, police-community relations and community policing, that has proven to be a significant asset in reducing crime and violence across our country, have been enormous. And, when a victim or a witness fears the police, the whole community suffers. This is why every major law enforcement association has taken a position in favor of limiting local participation in immigration enforcement. The Major Cities Chiefs Association, assessed the issue, stating, "without assurances that contact with the police would not result in purely civil immigration enforcement action, the hard won trust, communication and cooperation from the immigrant community would disappear."

This point could not be better illustrated than by the cases at Miramonte Elementary School. The number of cases is mind-boggling and many of the parents are fearful of coming forward for fear they will be discovered by ICE and deportation action taken against them. Are the arrested teachers guilty or sexual predators? That's for the prosecution and the courts to determine, but they need victims and witnesses willing to come forward. For the criminal cases to be properly investigated and prosecuted it's simply not an option to have victims or witnesses fear to come forward. The sad state of affairs is that they may very well end up with victims and witnesses afraid to come forward and help prosecute child sexual abuse cases, due to the Sheriff's unwavering and vocal support of ICE's flawed immigration enforcement programs.


 
 
 
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Viper1st
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05:22 AM on 02/19/2012
The Tragedy is expecting Federal, State, County & Local Law Enforcement to "Coddle" 11.2 million illegals, unauthorized to be in the USA, living as fugitives from DHS/ICE, by some Mexican national.
07:09 PM on 02/18/2012
Venegas is really reaching here. Secure Communities only checks immigration records of those BOOKED. Not attending a PTA meeting, not reporting a crime, etc. This whole line of rationalizing illegal immigration is very, very dubious. They produce NOTHING in the way of proof. We're just supposed to take the word of those who condone illegal immigration. I'm sure Venegas would prefer Baca be more like LAPD chief Charlie Beck, a corrupt suck-up to his open borders mayor.
11:48 PM on 02/17/2012
Arturo,
As an ex police chief you should familiar with the definition of the word "criminal". These are not undocumented immigrants, they are CRIMINALS who CHOSE to break our laws. We are supposed to be a nation of laws, not a "nation of only the laws that I choose to agree with". As a law enforcement officer you should know the difference.
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nasknit
Freedom isn't free.
01:45 AM on 02/18/2012
Thank you very much! Apparently, obeying the laws only apply to American citizens, per Arturo.
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markspence
01:16 AM on 02/17/2012
How is being an illegal alien and the parent of a child who is an abuse victim any different from a parent who has an arrest warrant out on him?
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BiggpussJr
pissin em off one comment at a time.
02:31 PM on 02/16/2012
The case involves two longtime teachers at the school who were arrested for committing lewd acts toward a number of students in disturbing instance of sexual abuse that occurred over several years. Many of the students at Miramonte and/or their parents are undocumented immigrants. Last week as the abuse story was unfolding, parents at the school told the Associated Press that they were afraid to talk to the police about the case because they feared deportation through the "Secure Communities" program. Alejandra Manuel, the mother of a student in one of the accused teacher's class, said "We're afraid to speak with the Sheriff and be deported. Anything can happen." The mother added, "We don't even want to go to the meetings at the school because they're full of police." (Translation is mine.)

So they said go ahead and abuse the children as long as they get to stay.
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andreabeth7
08:14 PM on 02/16/2012
I bet their illegal status is not going to stop them from filing lawsuits.
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BiggpussJr
pissin em off one comment at a time.
05:50 PM on 02/18/2012
I believe you are somewhat right, it will be a LAWYER that ENCOURAGES them to file. But I hope that their "reasoning" behind not coming forward sooner is explained and displayed properly.
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FranklySpoken
I cannot believe you said that…
01:29 PM on 02/16/2012
So the author, a former Police Chief (political appointee), feels that he should get to pick which laws should be enforced? He has no problems with: illegal immigration, identity theft, driving without a license or insurance, tax avoidance, etc.

I agree that illegal alien families have put themselves at risk through their criminal behavior. I would suggest that they return to their home countries, where they can be safe. When their US born children turn 18, the children can return to the USA.

The US taxpayers cannot afford the flood of illegal aliens. They swamp our schools, emergency rooms and jails. They have managed to severely depress the wages of blue collar workers across numerous industries.

ENFORCE the law. Fix & fully implement E-Verify. Fine and imprison employers who employ illegal aliens. Most of the illegal aliens will self-deport.
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special38x2
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07:29 PM on 02/16/2012
That was my sentiments exactly when this broke...so disturbing that parents would let this happen, they've set themselves up for failure.
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Snake1994
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01:05 PM on 02/16/2012
We can't have people stay here illegally just so they won't be afraid to report crimes. It's called enforcing the laws which was being done in Arizona until the justice department stopped the Sheriff from doing so. Anyone to be found in the country illegally must be removed until we can get a handle on the situation. We can't pick and choose who can stay and who has to go.
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12:20 PM on 02/16/2012
Arturo Venegas, Jr., I am sorry for what has happened to the children if true. But you have to understand that if their parents did not break the law by coming here illegally this would never have happened. If these people would stop breaking the laws of this country, my Sister would be alive today. You see Arturo, she was killed by a Mexican man who was deported 3 times before he got behind the wheel of his uninsured unregistered car with a stolen licence plate. He T-boned her car while she was on her way home from getting diapers for her 2 month baby girl. I miss my sister very much and if you ask me (and I know you won't) if they are here illegally they should be sent back to where ever it is they came from. Mexico, England, Canada, China, Japan or anywhere else, just get them out. There is a right way & a wrong way and it seems like you are more than happy with the wrong way.
Arturo wrote "In fact, the majority of people deported through S-Comm have either committed only a minor offense or no crime at all."
They came here illegally which in and of it's self is a crime. Section 8, Title 1325 of the U.S. code clearly states that. I wait for your response Arturo.
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04:25 PM on 02/16/2012
F & F....gladly #12.
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07:51 PM on 02/16/2012
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12:04 PM on 02/16/2012
change to "how illegal immigrants are Hurting Community Policing and Public Safety".
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special38x2
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07:30 PM on 02/16/2012
Exactly...
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PharmaCan
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11:50 AM on 02/16/2012
You need to get over yourself and your racist views on law enforcement.

Why should Latinos be exempt from following our laws? Why should Latinos be allowed to pick and choose which of our laws they will respect and which they will ignore.

You do understand, don't you, that you are advocating either favoritism for one ethnic group, or anarchy? Your views are better suited for a lawless country like Somalia than they are for a nation of laws.

What part of illegal do you people (those who support illegal immigration) simply refuse to understand?
11:35 AM on 02/16/2012
law enforcement enforcing the law.
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inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
11:33 AM on 02/16/2012
Oh boy!! Another bunch of silliness that blames the plight of illegals in America on our laws and not on the illegals for coming here in the first place. This argument is getting so profoundly tired.
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09:38 PM on 02/16/2012
Fanned :)
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11:31 AM on 02/16/2012
It's good to see someone writing about the problems in Los Angeles, including the Sheriff's Department with an eye towards making the county a better place to live for all. Perhaps the writer would be interested in taking an unbiased look at the problems in the Counties criminal justice system/ or the crime reward system as I remember it. I found out that public defenders are not required to obtain a statement from the accused. They do offer an incentive to all accused, "just plead no contest and get out of jail by tomorrow." Those who plead not guilty get to spend months imprisoned, only to find out the public defenders tell clients - as they told me- "Don't expect us to help you.We, the attorneys, decided that everyone accused will be found guilty of something". They were also quite open about covering up instances of police abuses and errors. While I received an Honorable Mention 20 years ago for a paper I wrote suggesting changes to the criminal justice system that were adopted by numerous communities in America, I still feel disgust anytime I reflect on my experiences in the hell hole of the Los Angeles Criminal Justice (Crime Reward) system. I hope it has changed for the better, but I don't have any faith that it has.
11:29 AM on 02/16/2012
mr.venegas,what is like to be above the law,to be able to pick and chose what laws you will follow?
10:10 PM on 02/18/2012
maybe a barber in Conn. see other article on post.
08:52 AM on 02/16/2012
I feel that this country has allowed illigal immigrants to stay in this country for political reasons, to help the farmers and other companies with low paying workers to they can save money. Because of this, the situation has become out of control, and now all these issues are arising which affect the citizens of this country. It has gotten so big that no one knows how to fix the problem.

I myself came to this country like others in the past and became a citizen by going through the legal channels. I do not understand why the Latin people are not able to do the same thing. To me, the law is the law, being here illegally is going against the law. If we allow the Latino population to stay here, then why not do it for other people who want to come to the USA too ! We all have to live by the rules that this society has put into affect.
01:16 PM on 02/16/2012
You are wrong and yet again this is another example of how people that come here forget where they come from. Just because you became legal does not mean you have to give your back to other people you were once in their shoes think of the means it takes to leave ones country to make a sacrifice just to come here and be treated horribly
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BiggpussJr
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02:29 PM on 02/16/2012
Criminals are TREATED that way. This country is FULL of LAW ABIDING American's who came from Central and South America. If you come the right way you are treated the right way. But SNEAKING in and THEN NOT ASSIMILATING at ALL they are treated like the criminals they are.
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BeasTT
02:40 PM on 02/16/2012
How is Linda wrong ? She is not obligated to help anyone but herself, do not blame the faults of those who came illegally on other people.

If you come here illegally, you know you are breaking the law. Stop crying, you deserve to be treated horribly.