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Making Deals with God, Superstitions and Karma

Posted: 02/ 2/2012 1:12 pm

I am no stranger to making deals with God. When I was a child, I would promise God that if I didn't get into trouble this one time then I would never ask Lori E. for bubble gum again. And years later, when I was waiting to hear if I got the internship that I wanted, I implored God once again -- "Please, give me this internship and I'll never think a bad thought again." Later when my daughter was driving home in a bad snow storm I turned to God again and begged: "Bring my daughter home safely and I will never ask you for anything else ever." My daughter did make it home safely. She is a safe driver and had excellent snow tires but I couldn't help associating my deal with God as being connected to her safe arrival.

So, was I true to my word? Was this the last deal that I was going to make with God? Was it the last favor I was going to ask?

Absolutely not!

One month ago, I had a mammogram that appeared suspicious. That led to an MRI, a biopsy, and last week to another biopsy. The second biopsy was a surgical biopsy. And here I was lying on the surgical table thinking "Please God just one more favor -- let this not be cancer. I'm sorry that I'm so vain and don't want to lose my hair. I'm sorry that I am not ready to join the pink tribe. I will do anything, yes anything if these biopsy results come back cancer-free. I didn't know what that anything would be.

Results came back on Thursday. I do NOT have cancer. I am beyond thrilled. I immediately made a facial appointment and bought some new clothing. What am I going to do to fulfill my promise to God? I don't know. One thing I do know, however, is that I will no longer promise to make no more promises.

Oh, and one more thing: I have these weird superstitious thoughts that if I'm nice to the nurses, reception staff, etc. then my chances of getting bad news go down. This is very similar to when I was a young adult waiting to hear back from graduate schools. If I was nice to the postman then he would surely bring me good news. I'm not referring to behaving in an unusually different way than I usually do. Instead, I'm talking about just being a little more cheerful and engaging.

And if it doesn't help me get admitted to grad school, etc. at least I'd feel good about being cheerful, engaging and smiling.

In my efforts to make deals with God and engage in superstitious behavior maybe I'm simply trying to ensure my good karma. I now truly understand this word. I have to say that it baffled me for years.

 

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10:08 PM on 02/06/2012
Bartering in the face of adversity with a hoped for personality that might not choose you to receive a more immediate death sentence to garner your servitude or privilege over another suffering the same probability, is not vanity: It is self delusion that one by a god is exalted above another to live longer; more to the point, it is self-love manifest as god.
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09:42 PM on 02/06/2012
I'm glad your biopsy came back negative. My best friend went through breast cancer and I watched her fight for her life. Chemo and radiation is horrible to watch and I'm sure it's even worse for those going through it. The chemo almost kills you while it's killing the cancer. I think everyone makes some kind of deal with something in that situation. Most people just aren't brave enough to admit it.
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06:51 PM on 02/06/2012
Karma is a tough one. My hero, Emerson, called it "compensation." I read that he continued to affirm his belief that we are rewarded for generosity and punished for selfishness to the end of his life. As my hero, I must give him deep consideration, but I have my doubts.

Thank you for your honesty. Superstition, as such, can be found in animals, especially birds; pigeons can be trained to be superstitious. My superstitions tell me when I feel helpless. But sometimes they are just for entertainment--crazy ideas. Wishing on a star. Knowing when and that I am superstitious also helps me see when that is not the case, which is most of the time. My view of life really has no rational place for superstition, but I can be irrational, too. I can fall in love.
09:22 PM on 02/05/2012
What may surprise you is that you cant do anything to get God to come and help you. Whatever "deal" you make...God aint comin. The reason being: He already came. Romans chapter 10: Say not who shall go to heaven to bring Christ down...or go to the deep to bring him up again but faith says that if you beleive he already came (and confessed it) that you would be delivered. In other words it is faith that he already came that causes him to come and help in your particular 21st century problem. And what 'deal' could you make to twist God's arm anyway?? You dont need to twist it because he loved you so much to die for you. He is more willing to help you than you are to be helped.
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07:12 PM on 02/05/2012
See, the power of faith.
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04:09 PM on 02/05/2012
I'll admit to having the superstitious impulse, on occasion. Making a wish on my birthdays when I was younger, for example.

It's interesting to imagine karmic links. But upon any investigation, these don't withstand the test of reality.

Your article shows how these superstitious thoughts are often linked with wishful thinking. This certainly counts against their plausibility. Good article.
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03:18 AM on 02/06/2012
"It's interestin­g to imagine karmic links. But upon any investigat­ion, these don't withstand the test of reality."

the reality of karma is everywhere but one must give up their religious and materialistic beliefs and the ego is not about to do that. few exceptions of course.

the herd effect of not believeing in karma which both the religious and materialists have to a great degree is a human condition.

we can even see it in our movies as now every action movie has a person throwing up from some kind of emotional stress or pain. once one director put it in their movie to add drama to the scene, it is now common place in most action and drama movies.
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12:29 PM on 02/07/2012
The ego is not the issue. It's testable evidence.
You never offer any proof or your supernatural dimensions, researcher. You criticize materialism over and over, offering no proof. What am I to make of this?

Then you say people who have opinions are a "herd." I am a part of a herd effect for believing that computers work?

I wouldn't use movies as an example. Let's talk real world. You see karma, but 8 million children under the age of 5 die every year. What did they do wrong? They are innocent toddlers and infants. Are you saying they deserved to suffer and die? Where is the karma, researcher?

I think this argument shows that your imagining karma in this world is clearly wrong, unless you can refute this point.
03:49 PM on 02/17/2012
Finally, a sensible response. Bad things happen to good people all the time, and ruthless people climb to the top on the blood, sweat and tears of others. People need to do the right thing because it's the right thing to do, and quit acting right because they expect to be rewarded for it.

The closest thing we have to karma is the ever fickle "what goes around comes around" principle, which seems to work best as a punitive measure rather than a reward for being good.

One need only watch one afternoon of the ID channel to learn that often times people who perform selfless acts wind up dead as a result.
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11:29 AM on 02/05/2012
well written article. to reveal this aspect of one's self is very revealing and open to the critics attacks on anyone willing to reveal our deepest fears.

I suspect everyone has been down this road. enjoyed your humor.
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05:30 PM on 02/02/2012
I am amazed at how superstitious americans are. In no other western country is religion such an issue. Most civilised countries are graduating away from the shackles of religion, but not in the usa it seems. For a country that fine tuned the age of 'enlightenment' with the wisdom of great seculists Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, Washington you seem to be regressing in that aspect. This is not a criticism of america. I love america and have many friends there. I just think it a shame you seem to be abandoning the ideals of the 'enlightenment'.
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03:48 PM on 02/02/2012
I try to avoid god(s) at every opportunity. They usually cause nothing but trouble.