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Women and Work, WOW: Woman-on-Woman Bullying in the Workplace

Posted: 03/ 9/2012 5:25 pm

I've seen it. I've experienced it and dear God I certainly hope that I haven't been guilty of it. Now, though, I feel validated in my observations and personal experience. I'm referring to women bullying other women in the workplace.

According to a survey by the Workplace Bullying Institute, when women bully other women in the workplace they -- get this -- choose other women as their targets in approximately 70 percent of cases. Yep, you read that correctly, 3 out of 4 times women select their female co-workers as their victims. Hello middle school. Is this simply a case of regression to our earlier years of middle and high school? I hope not. I'll return to that later. First I'd like to share a personal story of my own because statistics always resonate more clearly and colorfully when they are illustrated by our own gut-wrenching, heart-sinking, pit-in the stomach stories.

I worked at a place that I loved for several years. I considered myself a cheerful and cooperative co-worker. Despite that, I remember and will likely never forget the disgust that I saw in one co-worker's face every time she had the unfortunate experience of being in my presence. This was the sequence of events. First, she would greet everyone in the room but me, then she would furtively (she thought) glance at me, and then a look of disgust would swallow up her entire face. And, let me say that what she thought were her furtive glances were not so furtive. She looked me up and down from head to toe not once but twice each time she spotted me. Concerned that I might be misjudging this situation, I had both a male and a female co-worker give me some feedback about this woman's reaction to me. They were both painfully honest people who were not inclined to agree with ideas if they did not witness them themselves. They validated me. Yes, they said _____ certainly doesn't delight in your presence.

I tried for years to identify the point at which_____ had identified me as an NOKD (Not Our Kind Dear), but was unsuccessful. I even went out of my way FOR YEARS to smile at her, seek her opinion and do anything that I could think of within reason to foster a kinder relationship. She was not having it. Eventually, I gave up. If she wanted to dislike me I would have to accept it. After all, we can't all like each other, right? So, I took my proverbial lunch box and moved on to another lunch table. And, I kid you not when I tell you that she once told me that there wasn't room at her lunch table for me to join her group. I am talking about women in their forties here. Once again, hello middle-school. I thought that we had parted ways several years ago.

So now back to the issue at large: Why do women bully other women in the workplace? I will offer some suggestions but this I am sure is a skeletal outline. My hope is that we can start acknowledging and addressing WOW bullying, one of the most brutal social dances of all.

1. Is there some sort of natural inclination to return to old and familiar behavior when we experience stress? Do we return to "mean girl culture" where we sink our claws into other women when we wish to maintain our status at work and feel insecure and threatened?

2. Are we so frightened about being imperfect in our multiple roles as wife, partner, mother, daughter and worker that our need to be perfect in multiple roles leads us to demean women who we may perceive as better multi-taskers?

3. Is the idea of the sisterhood a relic and a mythology at this point? That idea makes me tremble with fear.

4. Are women feeling that it is competition rather than cooperation that leads to job promotions and success? After all, men have many more years of engaging in cooperative team sports than we do prior to entering the workplace.

What do you think: Why do women tear each other down at work? Have you ever been the target of a bully at work?


 

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chatnuptime1
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05:21 AM on 04/09/2012
I have had several women I have worked with make the mistake of bully tude me as they were my supervisors. Which fell flat. One I have been at the wrong end of the bully circus most of my life and got a serious attitude to help me get over it. When in the work force and it started.. I would slip them a smile and ask them.. 1 I asked you to give me your expectations before I started the assignment 2. You didn't give it to me. 3. Next time take care of step 1 and you will not be vascilating in my face. 4. This isn't about my work at all it is about you. 5 I didn't come here to be liked, to chat, to get a click. I am here to do a job so don't get any idea's that I give one witt about your social clicks and pressures. I don't. I expect none nor will I ask for it. Amazingly the women got off my back as she was bullying me because she heard someone yapping about my wanting her job. I laughed and said if I wanted your job I would have asked for it when I was hired by stating I wanted a managers job not a gardners job in your shop. I am more then qualitifed for it.
07:14 AM on 04/09/2012
Great advice! Thank you!
12:28 PM on 04/09/2012
supprising how a little chat in the ear shuts the hell out of them !! (ps sent another mail did you recieve ??)
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chatnuptime1
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05:04 PM on 04/09/2012
Sure did esso.. sure did.. check your mail.
12:21 AM on 04/08/2012
After enduring nearly a year of belittlement, knit-picking,
False accusations, unfair work assignments
From my female peers and female manager,
I found it necessary to take a leave of absence.
Not that I wanted to-my physician had to beg me, as he could see how depressed
I had become.
That was the start of the end.
You see, my company gave my job away three days before my return to work date.
11:15 PM on 04/01/2012
I was accused of sleeping with a client contact, by women who did not like me and were managing operations at the client site. I was told that I should leave the client site, hop on the next plane to Chicago because I apparently slept with this client. Not only was it shocking but it could have had the client contact fired. The next week all was supposedly forgiven and the female VP said everything was a "blank slate" but I knew better. It was going to get worse, and it did.

I fought back when my health couldn't do it for me: I hired a trainer and got my health back. I ended up doing my first triathlon. I lost a ton of weight. The women who put me through hell and back - the ringleader hired a trainer and lost 40 pounds just months later. I could not believe what had happened; I ended up taking the fall in the end but I am now making more money than the old boss, the one that wanted me on that plane, will ever see in her career.

Catty women just look like catty women. What goes around comes around. Sadly.
07:31 PM on 03/19/2012
I am a victim of work place bullying and my bully is my manager. It's even come down to the point where they have warned me they will fire me if my work does not improve. I do not understand this. I work my butt off and usually my metrics are better then anyone else's in my department and most people I deal with on a daily basis are more then happy to deal with me again. I have complained to HR and they don't do anything but tell me she can do what ever she wants. I was like excuse me? How is that fair? This woman has been there for 20 some odd years and she is in her 40's. She has never been married and has no children and seems to be miserable all the time. Before she ever became my manager i tried to be polite and extend the courtesy of respect and, it was not returned so I just avoided her. Then they put her in charge of me and I wanted to run. I have done research and looked up laws in the state of NY and still cant find anything to support my claims of bullying, a hostile work environment and a way to at least bring this to light. There is not enough time to explain all the details but does anyone have any suggestions?
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05:39 AM on 04/09/2012
Oh yes I had one that screamed at me on the casino floor because she could not get ahold of me on the radio. The battery they gave me was dead. They had an emergency clean up and with so many call ins we were short ten people. The supervisor was doubling work loads for everyone and as missive as a rabid mouse doing it. She got all hot and bothered and in my face in front of customers and told me about how she was going to write me up and stuff and I looked at her took oof my key belt, uniform top I had a sweater on underneath no worries.. dead radio and clocking card and quietly put them on the table while customers and workers were gawking. Smiled and said to her quietly.. Well mis Boss this is a right to work state.. I have a right to work and be happy, respected, and handled with dignity that is. You failed on all counts. I have a right to walk out that door too. there are my things. have a good day. And walked out the door of the casino. HR. Called my house and told me they paid me for the whole day and I was to report back in after a paid leave of absence for a week and hope like crazy I wasn't gonna quit. Customers were Irate with the display that went down I guess
12:22 PM on 04/09/2012
your quite right,as much as it would have been great to shove the keys etc up somewhere the sun has never shone,quite often it pays to do as you did,it makes them look real pillocks,especialy in front of a load of onlookers !! GOOD ON YOU !!
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05:52 AM on 04/09/2012
News got around to the union dogs and they chased this ugly episode to top bosses and were all over it like bees on wax. Her very public explosion set off a chain reaction in the union but instead of returning to that hotel which was blighted by poor managment they gave me a straight trasnfer to their sister sight a much younger hotel and much finer place. I stayed with the company with my telling them that I will not put up with mess from anyone. I can get a job in anyone of these hotels don't think for a minute I will stand for abuse. So the next time she yammers at you about firing you make sure she does it publicly in front of others.. It should not be hard if she is a type a run at the mouth type. Tell you you'll run on your record. and sue for wrongful work termination. Have plenty of witnesses to see the melt down. That is an added bonus in your favor. HR in my case had all those customers buzzing around so much they feared it would go to news. Vegas is viral that way It was bad enough that the Union stepped in before the door slammed behind me. Public melt downs by management is something union reps froth at the mouth for.
12:36 PM on 03/19/2012
As a scientist, I'm often the only woman working with a staff of men. Now in my 50s, I have semi-retired and moved on to part-time jobs. Most recently I took a job as teacher/technician/sales person in a sewing shop, working with an all-woman staff. The shop owner had a particularly difficult personality. She was brilliant, a perfect mentor for those learning the trade. I took advantage of all the training offered, and made every effort to be at office meetings and contribute my knowledge of sewing and computers. But then I noticed that the meeting schedule changed to my off-days. I mysteriously became ill (only me) after a staff party at her house. Housekeeping and closet-organizing chores occupied more of my time than that of other employees. My creative spirit was slowly crushed. Two years later, after tolerating her bullying, I realized I was lucky to get fired for "undermining" the operation. I should have seen the writing on the wall when a few months after opening the shop the entire staff (sans moi) threatened to quit. Shortly afterward, everyone was her best friend again, and I was the ogre for not joining the quitters. Starting and running a business is not easy, and my hat is off to those who try and even more to those who succeed. But an intelligent self-starter needs to also be a coach for those who support their business and help it to become successful.
viciousvirago
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06:13 PM on 03/18/2012
I don't know why, really. I never had a problem with the surgeons I worked with, and some were women. If anything, we stuck together, because we were outnumbered 50 to l when it came to trauma surgery.

But I've heard it and seen it and been the object of one surgeon's ire in this way: she spread a rumor that I was sleeping with every male in the hospital: orderlies, surgeons, nurses, you name it. Why? Because she did not have my skills and was denied a promotion. I cannot help that I was born with a very high i.q. and very good looks (at that time, at least). Women savage each other because of the same reason men to: they wanna get ahead and they don't care what it takes to do it. The 'women solidarity' thing: wishful thinking, unfortunately. I happen to like women (no, I'm not a lesbian) and enjoy their company.
08:07 PM on 03/14/2012
People who bully should just look in the mirror....they are seriously lacking in self-esteem....it's not about you...it's about them....whatever hate they are aiming in your direction is really a measure of how insecure they feel about themselves...if you are secure and happy with yourself, you leave other people alone....Analyze her: what does she lack? A happy secure relationship? A secure job position? A nice wardrobe? Money? A nice slim figure?
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06:09 AM on 04/09/2012
More then likely she lacks self esteem and is hoping like crazy that she can manipulate her a pet to bolster it with. Don't give her one. Don't even give them the idea that your the least bit peturbed by their annoying behavior because that is why they do it. They want something to effectually give them the I am better then you feeling and look at you slink and cower and whatever else you may do. Tantamount to a face to face stare down challenge of alpha vs beta you see animals do with some smack and snarl but once the fense is no longer between you that staring and snapping is no more. Don't give a bully a fense by showing a reaction to their antics that just causes them to up their game. I just give em a second look in the eye and move along on the job don't say nothing unless they need an answere and let them embarrass themselves like crazy trying to get a reaction.. Remember they want a pet someone that will make them feel better for all that posturing. Intimidation and noise is their game. Just stear that noise and antics in a public place quietly so that they can't corner you. Pretty soon they will give up. Or get struck down by their own supervisors.
01:17 AM on 03/14/2012
What is there to say? It is true, bullying happens, there are lots of catty women and caddy men. I think Stopexcuses nailed it, the women I call "base humans" will always be jealous of others; especially others who seem to not only have it all together, but be humble as well. It is silly, but hopefully, if you are the target, you recognize it and do a great job of pretending you don't. Eventually, the evil doer shows thier character to enough people to be outed or, you determine that you are among a clan of evil doers and you make an exit to bigger and better things.
11:20 PM on 03/13/2012
Like it or not, women and men can behave similarly. Workplaces are full of drama and intrigue and bad behavior, including bullying. Your story is like hundreds I have heard in my work as a conflict consultant. I find it helpful to remember that, if it can be done by someone, women are not above it.
Kathleen Bartle
Conflict Consultant
http://www.kathleenbartle.com
08:24 AM on 03/13/2012
Wait..can this happen at part time jobs too? I wanted to get a part time after highschool so I have some money I can save. Now I feel worried this will happen. Even though this female bullying is in highschool and middle school all the time..I at least thought I would be free from it at a job..guess I was wrong. Any advice for a girl whos entering the buisness world and may have to soon deal with this?
09:18 PM on 03/13/2012
Don't let fear stop you! Be kind to everyone and hopefully they'll reciprocate!
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06:12 AM on 04/09/2012
Ya stand your ground look em in the eye smile at them with teethe and walk away saying nothing. That says I know what your doing, I am not impressed, or scared so move along. I am young, new on the job but not stupid.
08:34 PM on 03/12/2012
I agree. Where I work there are onlty 3 or 4 men.The rest are women. I try to keep to myself. If one wears something one day, then the other will wear something similar or almost exactly like it. It is bad enough that the media will always judge women according to weight, what type of dress they wear, their hair ; but women do the same thing to one another. Instead of each one bringning their uniqueness to the table, the only bring competion, and jealousy/
11:26 AM on 03/12/2012
Thank you for raising this important aspect of bullying at work.

I've been speaking with targets of workplace bullying for over a decade, yet I'm still taken by the raw emotion of a female bullying target who tells me "I'll never work for another woman again" and proceeds to describe her experiences using terms that would put any man on the NOW hit list! This is a very real, troubling, and multifaceted phenomenon.

I attempted to sort it out in this commentary, "Female-to-female workplace bullying: Homespun theory on an imperfect storm": http://newworkplace.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/female-to-female-workplace-bullying-homespun-theory-on-an-imperfect-storm/

David Yamada
Professor of Law and Director, New Workplace Institute
Suffolk University Law School, Boston
08:00 AM on 03/13/2012
Thank you so much!
07:58 AM on 03/12/2012
boy, thats terrible, i never had anything like that happen to me, i feel bad for you,i have no ideal why this woman was like that, but you can sit at lunch table anytime.
07:47 AM on 03/13/2012
Thanks. That is so sweet.
01:25 PM on 03/13/2012
have a great day barbara!
02:53 PM on 03/11/2012
THANK YOU BARBARA. For having the courage to write about this. I have been through a nightmare and am still in shock. Please continue to bring awareness to these issues, especially where workplace bullying is concerned it is out of control. We need laws to protect just as we needed domestic violence laws and sexual harassment laws.
07:47 AM on 03/13/2012
You bet I will!
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chatnuptime1
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06:20 AM on 04/09/2012
Oh and not reacting to them is absalutely a killer for them. Denying them the site and sound of an unpleasent confrontation will get them bored of you very quickly. Bullies like emotional crutches. Don't back down or a way and don't snap. A calm good natured look and passing them by. It just robs them of their emotional fixation of trumping their card at your expense. Being deaf most of my life stole alot of bullies their reach on me as I paid them no heed. Didn't hear their sound bites and when I saw it gave them a no impact look. basically that made their entire act a waste of time and they looked like a fool in front of others. But sexual harrasment don't even put up with that one time. Report that immediately.
02:43 PM on 03/11/2012
Most certainly numbers 1,2 and 4 our the answers in a nutshell. Women are always cognoscente of the beauty within other women. We seem to notice it even before men. We take inventory of another woman right away and depending on how we value ourselves, well that is the reaction we will have.

In my opinion it is a constant that having a -hater- female take notice of inner beauty or -a light- within another woman will become problematic for the target almost immediately. Women notice how others walk, talk, the simple gesturing that is unique to a woman, the voice, tone and style. It reminds them of what they themselves may be personally lacking.

The nail in the coffin of a good harassment campaign being launched against the target is the tightly kempt areas of her personal life. Being young and physically beautiful while having a family and keeping things on track in that area of your life, while simultaneously being fashion forward and stylish in your wardrobe, choice of vehicles, home, and even foregoing the trashy smut talk within your workplace is simply a no no to a hater female. The cherry would be having a relationship that is working out for you and then keeping all of your -business- personal and not broadcasting anything to the vulture predators within your toxic environment is the last straw.

Conducting yourself within a positive and intellectually capable manner is an insult to hater females.
07:49 AM on 03/13/2012
Love your points!