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Women, Work and Babies: Will the 'Mommy Wars' Never End?

Posted: 06/11/2012 12:33 pm

It's been almost 25 years since Felice Schwartz published an intriguing and inflammatory article in the Harvard Business Review called "Management Women and the New Facts of Life," which was immediately dubbed the "Mommy Track" report. Ms. Schwartz's premise was simple: Professional women are more diverse than we realize and quite different from men. Some focus on careers, while others choose to have families, possibly removing themselves from the workforce for a number of years. Ms. Schwartz wrote:

The one immutable, enduring difference between men and women is maternity. Maternity is not simply childbirth but a continuum that begins with an awareness of the ticking of the biological clock, proceeds to the anticipation of motherhood, includes pregnancy, childbirth, physical recuperation, psychological adjustment, and continues on to nursing, bonding, and child rearing. Not all women choose to become mothers, of course, and among those who do, the process varies from case to case depending on the health of the mother and baby, the values of the parents, and the availability, cost, and quality of child care.

The report came out in 1989 and ignited the famous "Mommy Wars," an invisible but contentious line that was drawn between women with families who worked and those who chose to stay home. Almost twenty-five years later, the "women, work and babies" debate continues. One might argue that the discussions are even more intense since many women are trying to move out of the corporate world to become "mompreneurs" -- women who have children and are figuring out how to start their own successful businesses, offering more flexibility and control over their destinies.

Women have made headways since then, but two recent articles in the New York Times made me wonder just how far we have come and will no doubt spark additional and much-needed discussions on the topic. "Nurturing a Baby and a Business" focuses on several women who developed truly creative and successful online businesses while having children. However, they all felt they needed to secure funding for their start-ups prior to having children. Divya Gugnani, founder of Send the Trend, said,

All of the women I know who went to raise money did it when they didn't have kids. There is total discrimination in the start-up world against women who are pregnant. Making pregnancy and motherhood a focal point of the investment process is an outdated way of thinking.

The article makes the point that the question of children and families plays out very differently for male entrepreneurs, as it always has:

Neil Blumenthal, 31, co-founder of Warby Parker, an eyewear seller, says his family responsibilities never came up with investors.

Every woman entrepreneur interviewed for the article agreed that having the right support in place is essential for a successful start-up:

These women say it takes a village -- a community that includes nannies, in-laws, friends, supportive spouses and baby sitters -- to make it all work. Living within walking distance of the office also helps.

Their "can do" attitude is inspiring even when they all pointed out that choosing this path in life is "not for the faint of heart," but another article clearly questioned whether women should even want to have it all.

The article, "A Pioneer in a Mad Men's World," is an interview with Mary Wells Lawrence, one of the greatest names in advertising history. It will no doubt leave readers feeling confused over her message. Ms. Lawrence, who raised two daughters primarily by seeing them on weekends and speaking with them on the phone during the rest of the week said, "I think women who spend the most productive years of their life nurturing children are unhappy."

Whether she was intending to or not, Ms. Lawrence's statement about motherhood added fuel to the 'Mommy Wars' fire, and left me questioning the direction our country is heading with regards to women, work and babies. What are women to believe? That we can't have children and work or start companies? Or, that taking time off from work (or cutting back our hours) for a few years while having children is a mistake? Or that we must secure financing for our start-ups before even contemplating having children? It's discouraging and simply wrong.

What's the message to women in America, especially young women who are just starting out and trying to plan their lives, which for many, will include work and babies?

I think the message is clear: women are still in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" state of limbo. Women want (and most need) to work, and many want to have families. Isn't it only right to create an environment that will support, encourage and allow women to do both? We need more jobs, flexible hours, childcare options and investors willing to put money behind women, whether they have children or not. We need role models in powerful positions to step up and help push the agenda forward through mentoring, hiring, and speaking out against blatant discrimination against women who have (or are planning to have) children.

Remember this simple fact: women are the driving force behind the economy AND the rearing of the next generation. Nothing less than a sea change is required in how we look at and talk about women, work and babies in this country.

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Barbara Hannah Grufferman is the President of Best of Everything Media, Inc., author of "The Best of Everything After 50", a guide to positive aging, and is at work on her second book, "Fifty Rules: What Every Woman Needs to Know Before Turning 50" which will be published in late 2012. Barbara is the Chief Pundit at FOF, one of the largest websites for women over 45. She can also be found on Facebook, Twitter, and Pinterest.

 
 
 

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It's been almost 25 years since Felice Schwartz published an intriguing and inflammatory article in the Harvard Business Review called "Management Women and the New Facts of Life," which was immediate...
It's been almost 25 years since Felice Schwartz published an intriguing and inflammatory article in the Harvard Business Review called "Management Women and the New Facts of Life," which was immediate...
 
 
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08:44 PM on 07/18/2012
What a dynamic topic! Professional women need support in order to help them achieve fulfilling careers while at the same time being a mother. On the other hand, privileged women who chose to stay home to raise their children also face difficult realities-at the end of the day many of these women feel isolated and unfulfilled.

I always cringe when I read something relating to the "mommy wars". This type of media buzz is never helpful for women. Our power is in our unity not in our separateness. My hope is that all women, whether working or not, will support one another to achieve our desired and individual goals and dreams.
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April Pells
12:21 PM on 06/14/2012
Why can't mommies stop griping about their choices? Now, yes, companies that unfairly penalize moms should be punished, but those who gripe that they can't get promoted need to suck it up. If you can't put in the hours that someone else can, why should you get promoted???
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pslcitizen
I intend to live forever. So far, so good.
04:29 PM on 06/13/2012
Why are you enlisting in the war? What are you trying to prove? Just be a parent already.
03:11 PM on 06/13/2012
People should stop judging each other, period. I have worked in high level corporate jobs and also stayed home with kids at various times. Most of the time I worked outside the home, but when my youngest was about to enter high school, a number of problems emerged with her, and I had to make major changes or she'd end up on the street, pregnant, or on drugs (or all three). The handwriting was on the wall, as they say, and my husband had just begun a business that was taking off and had no time. I segued into freelance work so I could take her to her new school, therapy, etc. and made a lot less, but it was something. I'm now nearly 60, so I was not able to go back into my old duties seven years later; that I regret... a very little. My girl is now in college and doing well. If you had told me 20 years ago this would happen, I would not have believed it, ever! My first one did great with me working FT and climbing the ladder; my second was very different in every way. Everyone's situation is different; that's why none of us should judge each other. As for me, regrets are extremely few.
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02:56 PM on 06/13/2012
The so-called mommy war doesn't exist except in the minds of women who perpetuate it because they were fed it. They day they stop it themselves, is the day the non existent mommy wars will end.
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01:06 PM on 06/13/2012
To each their own.
wordsalad12
Caring for innocent life after they are born.
10:53 AM on 06/13/2012
I am amazed at how many (probably) women (and men) on this blog just assume that staying at home raising your kids is not work or a real job. That is exactly how companies think too. So you resent people taking time off for kidstuff. Fine, feel free to take time off calling in sick, or offer to help your coworkers - take a day off to tske care of their sick child while they slog at work, and see how fun that is. Just because people choose to have a family does not mean they are excuses for goofing off. Who r you to judge other folks? Just like people with families should lay off of judging those who choose not to have kids.
11:19 AM on 06/13/2012
Never had time to judge myself or others when I became a single father after the birth of my son twenty some years ago. I was too busy struggling to survive while managing to put in the hours at work.
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farmerlady
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12:03 PM on 06/13/2012
Real jobs have paychecks.

Nothing else even enters into the discussion.
wordsalad12
Caring for innocent life after they are born.
02:15 AM on 06/14/2012
Yes, that is a sorry way to weigh the value of work. if monetary payment is the only way to judge an activity as work, then drug dealers and prostitutes should have the same level of respect as desk jobs, no? what about folks accepting bribes to fiddle with any system? By the same token, are volunteers useless freeloaders, then?
wordsalad12
Caring for innocent life after they are born.
10:32 AM on 06/13/2012
I even have women friends who are working moms who seem to cannot fathom why some of their equally educated friends with equal talent have chosen to stay at home for a few years. Here is the odd thing: they love what the stay at home dads are doing, but are horrified at the prospect of their own man staying at home with the kids, even of the moms cannot/will not. I dont get it :(
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farmerlady
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12:06 PM on 06/13/2012
I agree that this is a barrier that even many women have a hard time getting over.

From what I have seen of men who end up being SAHDs involuntarily, because of job loss or whatever, it is very frustrating for the wife to go to work and come home to a dirty house. These guys do not do a lick of housework. This is why their wives would rather see them go back to work.

If one is going to be a stay at home parent of either gender there needs to be agreement about the chores.
wordsalad12
Caring for innocent life after they are born.
10:28 AM on 06/13/2012
I have worked in places where new moms are barely respected and considered a drag on the bottom line, and i have also worked in majority-women workplaces where career women in power/high positions ( with/without children of their own) treat women in junior positions (with far lesser salaries / frills/ perks than the "powerfrau"s) with the same indifference, disdain, disregard and lack of empathy as their male counterparts in power positions. This includes single mothers, divorced mothers, moms of kids with special needs and so on, not just women who choose not to have families. They also treat with the same disdain men who consider families and parenthood more important than a career ladder. It seems to indciate that this has nothing to do with gender but everything to do with power and manipulation towards purely personal gain.
10:20 AM on 06/13/2012
I don't see an argument here. If you want to be a stay-at-home mom then do so; if you want to be a mother and have a career then go for it; just understand the pros and cons of each before you do it. Why should that put women at odds?
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farmerlady
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12:14 PM on 06/13/2012
Some women feel that SAHMs are holding down the rest of us by insisting that "mommyhood" is some kind of real or respectable "career option". It isn't a career and shouldn't be confused with one, and when the new, younger wife rolls through the door the former SAHM will find out just how optional gainful employment really is. Of course, by that time, our good conservative little woman will have set other women back decades with her whole "mommyhood is my career" song and dance.

Mommyhood is unpaid manual labor and if some women don't consider themselves to be worth more than that, then fine, but they should not and must not muddy the waters by calling it something else.

No woman ever needed a college degree to have babies and do housework, in fact no woman even needs to read or write to do that and there are many places in the world where girls are denied education on the basis of exactly this reasoning--a woman's destiny is motherhood and cleaning, so she doesn't need school.

Every SAHM who calls mommyhood a "real job" is empowering this state of affairs. They should be ashamed of themselves, not crowing on blogs about how great they are.
02:12 PM on 06/13/2012
No, I agree being a sahm is not a career. It's definitely a choice. I don't have anything against women who choose to stay home and be with their children and tend to the house, but I'm not willing to help pay for that choice.
05:23 PM on 06/13/2012
Wow, what an inflammatory comment. How can you say that raising children is not a "real job"? Does that mean that a being a nanny or childcare worker is not a real job? I'm not saying it is better or worse to be a stay at home mom, but attitudes like yours are completely unnecessary. Women who stay at home are not holding back women who work. Feminism was about having a choice to work or not to work. You've clearly gone too far to the other extreme.
02:00 AM on 06/13/2012
I am a stay-at-home-mom. I choose to be a stay-at-home mom. If you had asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up when I was still a child, I would have told you "mom". I still went to college because I place high value on education and I do plan on going back to work in a few years, once my children are in school. But right now, for my family, having a parent home with the kids is the most important thing and I am so thankful that I am able to. Being a stay-at-home mom does not make me less valuable, my work is not unimportant. These "mommy wars" are not going to end until everyone can stop worrying about the other person and instead merely focus on themselves. All women, and men, are valuable, whether they are out of the home working or staying home to raise their children on their own. I respect the right of other parents to have a career outside the home, I simply ask that my choice to stay home is also respected. Motherhood/parenthood isn't a one size fits all type of thing. We are all individuals with our own hopes and dreams and goals. No one person fits into the same exact mold as another.
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blue rylie
I'm Prochoice Because I'm a Mom
07:08 AM on 06/13/2012
Well said. I'm current a stay at home mom and student. I've been a working mom, a single mom, and everything in between. It's all about what works for the individual family based on their situation, beliefs and goals. The working moms and the stay at homes have so much to offer each other in terms of support when we stop focusing on each other's "jobs" and start focusing on each others strengths and level of commitment. My working mom friends are no less dedicated to their family than I am, and I am no less capable than they are. We all contribute to our family, our community and our society...we just don't always do it in the same ways. I always say there's more than one path up the mountain, and I certainly think that is true of both parenting and career. I think we all need to find our own path, but we can support each other in that goal along the way even when taking different paths.

F&F
11:35 AM on 06/13/2012
You are so right.
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Juli3
09:33 AM on 06/13/2012
You keep missing (ignoring?) one very pertinent & unavoidable point. You keep saying you *chose*. The reality for most is; there *is* no choice!. You work or you go hungry. God Help you if you need to pay for daycare. Why do you insist on perpetuating the myth that women in general have a *choice*? That only hurts women & the families they are trying to help provide for.
02:05 AM on 06/14/2012
I am well aware of the fact that there are many families where the choice to stay at home or work is made for them, I am not belittling that. One of my best friends is a single parent working full time at a low paying job she absolutely hates and who struggles EVERY MONTH just to make ends meet. I know there is nothing she would love,more than to be able to stay home with her little boy but she can't. She struggles all the time with feelings of being an inadequate mother because of that fact. Other parents have made her feel that way when it is definitely not the case and this is exactly my point. People need to stop focusing on what other families are doing and instead focus on their own! The value of a parent does not rest solely on their employment status or lack thereof, it saddens me that it has come to this in our society today. Those of us who do have the luxury of choice should not be looked down upon either. Yes, I may have made the choice of staying home, but I never said our life was comfortable. My husband brings in just enough to keep us housed and fed, but there is nothing left over after that. We gladly choose to live like paupers because in OUR family we think it's in the best interest of all to have a parent at home. Why should I feel
10:19 PM on 06/12/2012
No parent should have to choose between career and family, rather male or female. Our society makes us choose because of how our work environment and economy is set up. Women usually suffer in the career department and men usually suffer in the family department. Until there is some type of change regarding this we will always have these wars, as well as welfare (which is also supported by this environment but no one wants to admit). I am always amazed at how women often comment on these blogs that they have to work to make it. With me it is the complete opposite. I want to work and continue my career but cannot afford to. After school care for my children is $15 an hour per child and I have three. It is $400 a week in the summer – and that’s the cheap care through the school. By the time I pay that, gas, clothes, and other expenses, I had no check! I literally had to resign and now work from home freelancing. Since doing so, my family has literally saved thousands a month! Here’s something to ponder: I wish I was rich enough to work outside the home!
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Mollyannie
Thinking "I can't" guarantees failure
08:21 PM on 06/13/2012
While it may be true that you had little by way of money left over, at least in your situation--and that is definitely depressing--if you had continued to work, you would have had no gaps in employment resume, no gaps for social security computational purposes, you would have been gaining experience and seniority. Depending on what your job was, this may have been valuable. In a few years, your children would have gone to school and childcare costs decrease.

I do not intend to sound like I am slamming you or cricizing your choice, I am not. I dont know your situation. I just wanted people to consider other things than just the paycheck if they are having to face such a decision. A big vaiable, of course, is what the job is and how much potential earning power is at stake down the road.

Best wishes.
09:46 PM on 06/12/2012
Nothing less than a sea change is required in how we look at and talk about MEN, work and babies in this country.
11:20 AM on 06/13/2012
As a guy who managed to raise a child from birth as a single father I agree
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farmerlady
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12:15 PM on 06/13/2012
Now this is a real contribution to the discussion.
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Medusa Sant
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08:18 PM on 06/12/2012
In the fall and winter I sometimes pick up a part time job to get myself out of the house. I always make sure to tell the workplace that I have a kid, so I can take as much time off as the women that actually have children. Every week someone is missing a day or hours late because of some child related occurrence. So when I'm sick of scrambling to cover the shifts, I take a day off for a massage and pedicure and chalk it up to Juniors (insert child related excuse here.)
09:47 AM on 06/13/2012
I hope you end up with quintuplets.
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Medusa Sant
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10:57 AM on 06/13/2012
HA! That would be the day.
wordsalad12
Caring for innocent life after they are born.
10:35 AM on 06/13/2012
You tell lies at ur workplace? Sure, fake an illness and take a day off, but why risk being found out to invent a kid for extra perks? Do you think parents with real kids love having sick kids to take care of and lose out on the advantages of having a stellar work record?
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Medusa Sant
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10:56 AM on 06/13/2012
So its okay to fib about being ill, but not about having a kid. Okay, got it.
I could care less about a stellar work record, I dont need to work at all if I dont want to. I do it to occupy myself.
06:49 PM on 06/12/2012
My mom made far more than my dad for the first half of their marriage, carried a bigger title, and a larger salary. Both my parents made an effort to do their share in carpooling, attending my sports games, and were there for me when I needed it. My mom was critisized by non-working mothers frequently as they wondered if she was able to spend enough quality time with me. There is no doubt I maintain a much more solid relationship with both my parents than most. And, when I went off to college, those same mothers envied mine for her ability to continue and enrich her life without her kid, and be incredibly passionate about her career.

I was particularly fortunate to have two parents who continuously conveyed the importance of me being an independent, financially responsible career AND family driven young lady. The issue at hand should be about companies (no matter the industry) AND couples working together to make parenting something that can co-exist with career. It's not about just making better work places for mothers--it's about making better work places for fathers too. Plus, it seems that all too often we spend time criticizing or analyzing a mother's work/parent balance, and not enough time questioning why many dads don't spend more time with their kid. "I'm paying the bills" doesn't cut it. My mom paid just as many...and that enabled both my parents to be present in my life.
11:40 AM on 06/13/2012
Wonderful. You are very lucky.