Do We Really Need A 'Faith-Based' Initiative?

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I nearly spilled my cornflakes this morning when I read an Associated Press story asserting that U.S. Sen. Barack Obama planned to not only expand the "faith-based" initiative but apparently allow religious groups taking part in it to receive tax money yet still discriminate on the grounds of religion when hiring staff.

Obama's staff quickly clarified things. They insist he won't back tax-funded religious discrimination. That's good to know, and I look forward to learning more the specifics of the proposal. They say the Devil is in the details. When it comes to the faith-based initiative, I'd rather just let the Devil have the details, along with the entire initiative.

No, I'm not a fan of the faith-based initiative. That may seem odd, as I am a Christian minister. Let's just say I come from the old school and take what these days is becoming an unusual view: Religion should pay its own way in the world. If Pastor Bob wants to start a ministry, good for Pastor Bob. Let Pastor Bob's congregation pay for it.

The problem with the faith-based initiative is that it's a euphemism. We used to call such things "taxpayer-supported religion." Of course, no one would support it if it were called that. After all, the idea of taxing people to pay for religion is scary. It's what got folks so riled up back in the colonial period. No one wanted to pay taxes to support some other person's religion.

No one wants to pay them today, either. Yet increasingly we are being asked to do so. Eager to appear faith friendly, candidates in both parties are increasingly upping the ante for how much they plan to dole out to religion if elected.

Under the Bush administration, the faith-based payoff reached new depths in venality and cynicism. Staffers in the White House faith-based office appeared at political rallies alongside House and Senate candidates in tight races, implying that the right vote would lead to a cascade of new money for religion.

But it never did. There was no new money. Disillusioned faith-based staffer David Kuo pointed out in his book Tempting Faith that Bush never proposed any new funding for these programs. He just sliced the pie slightly differently to reward some of his fundamentalist allies, virtually the only sub-group that still sticks by his sinking presidency.

Under Bush, money poured into "abstinence-only" sex education programs that study after study has shown are not effective. Grants were given to groups based on how well connected they were and the theology they espoused, not how effective they were.

The final kick in the head came when John J. DiIulio, the first White House "faith czar," blithely admitted in his book Godly Republic that there is no evidence that faith-based groups do a better job than their secular counterparts. Of course, none of this mattered to DiIulio. He was still for keeping the funding spigot on full blast.

If we have to have a faith-based initiative, one that does not allow proselytism on the taxpayer's dime and that is free of religious discrimination, it's better than one that does these things. Still, I wish a presidential candidate would have the gumption to ask what has become a forbidden question: Do we need a faith-based initiative at all?

The Rev. Barry W. Lynn is executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State in Washington, D.C. (www.au.org)

I nearly spilled my cornflakes this morning when I read an Associated Press story asserting that U.S. Sen. Barack Obama planned to not only expand the "faith-based" initiative but apparently allow rel...
I nearly spilled my cornflakes this morning when I read an Associated Press story asserting that U.S. Sen. Barack Obama planned to not only expand the "faith-based" initiative but apparently allow rel...
 
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- KingCranky I'm a Fan of KingCranky 2 fans permalink

Obama will be the best Republican President since Bill Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 07/01/2008
- pithy I'm a Fan of pithy 10 fans permalink

I'm a born-again Christian and am so SICK of religion filtering into every policy discussion! I think it's a highly private matter between me and the God of my understanding.

What I've observed of religion mixed with politics is just pure hypocracy. Supposed Christians flocking to this war-mongering administration, supposed Christians cheering Ann Coulter and the disgusting things she says - supposed Christians in favor of locking up everybody, cutting poverty programs, torturing anybody the administration deems an enemy - whether there's a shred of evidence or not - and on and on.

it's all BACKWARDS to me!! I've never yet met a Republican that I thought was a good Christian because of their obsession with money and getting theirs, to hell with anybody else.

Faith-based initiatives are just wrong on every level.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 07/01/2008
- jneems I'm a Fan of jneems 13 fans permalink
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Well said, pithy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 07/01/2008
- ema I'm a Fan of ema 23 fans permalink
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Thank you for your opinion. i think it's high time that WE THE PEOPLE (whether Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Pagan, atheist or undecided) come together and say that religion is private. That is the way the founders intended it and for good reason!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 07/01/2008

Yes, we do. If the current promise of young evangelicals with their "christian" goals of fighting poverty, aids, hunger, etc is to be believed, this young and motivated constiuency needs a vehicle to tender that good work. I am the last person to champion faith based anything, but I believe Obama knows how to approach these groups in a way to galvanize folks and harness their humanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 07/01/2008
- Danny I'm a Fan of Danny 5 fans permalink

yes to young evangelicals/catholics/muslims/buddhists/jews/etc. doing good, but not on my dime. Let their congregations pay for their good works. That's the way it used to be, and that's the way I prefer it. Obama has to distance himself from this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 07/01/2008
- colleen2 I'm a Fan of colleen2 5 fans permalink

"this young and motivated constiuency needs a vehicle to tender that good work."

First of all, after 60 years of watching churches I don't believe for a MINUTE that fighting poverty and AIDS is a serious goal for any of these folks. I think that proselytizing, criminalizing abortion and fattening their own pockets are their main goals. For instance I'm failrly certain that Pat Robertson did not help any poor folks with his yearly half a mil.
Second, they HAVE a vehicle, their church, and the bible tells them all to tithe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 07/01/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1632 fans permalink
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The vehicle you are looking for exists. Tell them to go collect money from individuals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 07/01/2008
- Henry I'm a Fan of Henry 20 fans permalink

The answer of course is NO. There is nothing prohibiting people of faith giving! Why would it have to be money taxed (I thought they hated taxation) on the people, run through the government (with this obvious friction of inefficiency and a moderate amount of corruption) and disbursed "fairly" to a group of "do-gooders" approved by that hated "government"! Sounds a bit fishey.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 07/01/2008
- Malkintent I'm a Fan of Malkintent 3 fans permalink

well put. I think religion has already caused Obama enough problems (the two preachers from his now-former church). Of course, it hasn't exactly helped McCain either (the two preachers who's endorsements he had to reject after first seeking them). Hopefully, we will someday have an election where religion will be kept private (like it used to be).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 07/01/2008
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