Barry Yourgrau

Barry Yourgrau

Posted: May 16, 2008 06:18 PM

Mike Huckabee: Minister and Street Thug

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So Mike Huckabee makes a wisecrack at the NRA convention about Obama frantically trying to get away from a gun being pointed at him.

This is what passes for a Christian man of peace today in this charming country we find ourselves in. Spy magazine ran a marvelous caption years ago, I recall, under a picture of Kissinger: "Henry Kissinger, Socialite and War Criminal." Now we have Mike Huckabee: Christian Minister and Street Thug.

Huckabee should not just apologize, he should be forced to turn in his collar.

But alas as someone else pointed out, Christians are often the ones who don't seem hip that theirs is supposedly a religion of peace.

Why would anyone who isn't a corporate baron, a religious nut or a bug-eyed Xenophobe vote Republican? I can't think.

I've just come back from a couple weeks in Italy. Bella paese. I was in Rome when the new mayor was elected: a former young Fascist street fighter. Berlusconi is not only back running the country, he is doing so in partnership with an anti-immigrant party that's positively rabid.

Huckabee's spout-off today has a touch of that strain of Italy. Il Duce's street fighters would get a kick out of it.

But Jesus (pardon me, my blood is still boiling) -- Jesus would vomit.

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- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 490 fans permalink
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Was this "joke" set-up beforehand? Was it scripted? Or is it the window into Huckabee's soul? Either way, Huckabee should be barred from any future political office.

A must-read: http://www.igpub.com/barbarous.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 05/19/2008

I'm an Obama supporter but I have to say, for a moment, I forgot that Obama will be the first African American Democratic Nominee for President, but saw it as a lame joke by a gun nut to other gun nuts about a non gun nut. Thoughtless? Yes. Stupid? Yes. But I think the context is what's important here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 05/18/2008

Huckabee's remark, coupled with Hillary's ominous assertion that she is staying in the race so she'll be ready if "anything" happens between now and August, seems at best to be an open invitation to all the nut cases to take action. It seems at worst to suggest that someone is already plotting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 05/17/2008
- riley85 I'm a Fan of riley85 2 fans permalink

If anyone dares say anthing negative about Obama they are either labeled a racist or it gets blamed on Hillary. People are getting sick of this fanatical response to any criticism of Obama. Some of us could care less if he is bi-racial. He is too inexperienced, soft on crime, controlled by corporate big shots, plays dirty Chicago politics, and chose a radical church to find himself. Many reasons to not like Obama.
Anyone asking Huckabee to turn in his collar should remember Obama's past and present pastor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 05/17/2008

If you can't acknowledge what's wrong about Huckabee's comments, all the more ominous for Obama, and additional evidence that this country needs to change through change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 05/19/2008

I want to defend Huckabee. He made a dump joke. He meant no harm. Don't forget when the Reverend Wright story broke, Huckabee was the ONLY republican or DEMOCCRAT who said Obama should not be judged based on what Wright has said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 05/17/2008
- dana94591 I'm a Fan of dana94591 5 fans permalink
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Yeah, dumb but very dangerous!!!! That I will never forgive!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 05/17/2008

Given the history of assassination and attempted assassination of Presidential candidates and controversial political figures during the Presidential primary season (RFK, MLK, George Wallace) and assassinations of political leaders, including Presidents, in this country's history, and Obama being the first Afro-American candidate with a prospect of winning the Presidency -- Huckabee's "I'm-sorry­-for-givin­g-a-signal­-that-assa­ssinating-­Obama-is-O­K" before a group known for its love of guns, a group that attracts mercenaries and other violent types, may not be good enough and well be criminal. There is little difference between Huckabee's remark and signaling crazies attracted to the that group that assassinating Obama is perfectly alright.

Huckabee needs to be arrested and investigated by the Justice Department to determine whether his remarks violated laws that prohibit threats against federal officials and candidates. I watched his remarks and came away believing he was signaling to people who might be inclined to assassinate federal officials or candidates that such action has his, and McCain's, approval of such action.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 AM on 05/17/2008
- Doofus I'm a Fan of Doofus 25 fans permalink
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It's got to be pretty frustrating for the good reverend that
the country will have a president named Obama before
it will have one named Huckabee. What's left but the
chance to make lame gun jokes before a gang of
true believing gun aficionados.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 AM on 05/17/2008

The apology was a non sequitur. The most salient effect of Huckabee's remark was endangerment, not offense or disparagement. Had he uttered it to the annual convention of baby carriage manufacturers it would have been bad enough. Saying it in front of the NRA and in front of its banner, coming from a recent candidate for president, and going out to a group of people nationwide who in some cases may not have the intellectual or cultural wherewithal to recognize it as a mistake is to risk communicating permission--or a suggestion. Mr. Huckabee himself meant no such thing, of course, but he is a leader in a party that includes people whose views he is partly responsible for shaping. This is not about political correctness. This is hard, cold, gritty realism about American political and cultural life. Be careful out there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/16/2008


Quit cryin'.

Sen Kerry never apologized for calling millions of Americans either criminals or terrorists merely because they owned semi-automatic firearms capable of holding large capacity clips.

Remember Dukakis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 05/16/2008

apt handle dude.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 05/17/2008

In my estimation, the title of minister erroneously infers a certain detachment from
the shallower bits of human folly. There are men and women in this world for whom
compassion is a calling. They have no title. They are the true ministers.

Mr. Huckabee please go home. You are no longer part of the conversation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 05/16/2008
- Skepticat I'm a Fan of Skepticat 59 fans permalink
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Given the number of nutbars out there - Huckabee was being even stupider than I would have believed possible. This is the guy who wrote "Kids who kill" - and should certainly know better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/16/2008

His next book should be I assisted in putting the guns in the hands of "kids who kill" for the sake of the NRA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 05/17/2008

huckleberry's not stupid, This was calculated - how could it be otherwise? He's sending a subtle message.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 05/17/2008
- NegSpin I'm a Fan of NegSpin 2 fans permalink

You almost have to excuse the guy. If he had any sense in the first place he wouldn't be a Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 05/16/2008

I can't for the life of me see the humor in that statement. Anyone who even thinks that way is a sick, sick individual. I feel sorry for them

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 05/16/2008
- dana94591 I'm a Fan of dana94591 5 fans permalink
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Thank you! It is so nasty and dangerous!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 05/17/2008

I think it was just an off the cuff comment which went horribly wrong. He should appologise however he is still one of the republicans who I have a modicum of respect for (despite his views)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 05/16/2008
- gigi09 I'm a Fan of gigi09 4 fans permalink

I always thourght that you respect people for something special, like morals, character, and wisdom...I can't imagine respecting for someone just because they are a republican...pretty shallow!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 05/16/2008
- jpetaluma I'm a Fan of jpetaluma 2 fans permalink

Mike seems like a pretty nice guy, right? Well, there are many stories. One is that his son hung a dog, that dog died, and Mike had the investigating officer on the case fired. This was when he was governor of Arkansas. There are other very, very nasty accounts about this man. All that decent man of God crap is just that crap. I bet anything that the noise Mike responded to was staged so he could have his funny little evil moment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 05/17/2008
- 4wehttam I'm a Fan of 4wehttam 14 fans permalink

I really thought this guy was a pretty decent person. I guess I was mistaken. What a shame all they can attack Obama about is on personal issues and not his actual policies.

UNITED WE STAND.....­..........­..........­....Let's not fall for their lies and scare tactics this time around. This is OUR time to take a stand and say NO MORE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 05/16/2008
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