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Beau Friedlander

Posted: September 14, 2009 07:31 AM

What 'Bin Laden' Is Saying About Glenn Beck

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An unverified audio recording of Osama bin Laden has emerged on Islamist websites. The tape may provide proof that the shaggy figurehead is still alive. The audio message set to video, replete with 9-11 imagery, serves no other discernible purpose.

"To the American people, this is my message to you: a reminder of the reasons behind 9/11 and the wars and the repercussions that followed and the way to resolve it."

In broad strokes the familiar message here is that the US needs to get out of the Middle East. Bin Laden once again pointed to the US support of Israel as the main cause of it's problems in the Middle East, and more specifically at Secretary of Defense Robert Gates continuing on with President Obama, which indicated that Obama was really a puppet of Republican agenda, and specifically Bush policy in the Middle East. One supposes this might have been funny if bin Laden had better timing.

The other notable statement from the tape: President Barack Obama is "a vulnerable man who will not be able to stop the war, as he promised, but instead he will drag it to the maximum possible extent." Regardless who said it -- whether the voice on the tape is Osama bin Laden or an al Qaeda supporter -- the statement is true.

The full transcript was not available when this post was filed, so it's hard to discern the true import of the statement, but recent events here in the States have served to make the president look vulnerable for sure. Maureen Dowd was not the only person to hear in Rep. Joe Wilson's "You lie" outburst, the subtler underpinnings of a race war. My colleagues and I heard it. In fact, Megan Carpentier was sufficiently bothered by a lynching comparison I made regarding Wilson's bragging rights post-address, that she sent a late-night email pointing out the same unspoken word Dowd cited: "boy." You lie, boy. That subtlety grew to larger proportions in my mind. The fear is that it will grow in the darker, angrier parts of the popular imagination as well.

Folks, we are a hop skip and a jump away from real trouble here. The specter of violence is clear enough. Osama bin Laden, if that was him (doesn't matter if it was just a garden-variety US-hater), pointed out that the president is vulnerable. What did he mean? Al Qaeda is a literal-minded group. The chances are reasonably good that the tea parties and the birthers and the Joe Wilson comment are somewhere at the root of the purported bin Laden comment.

Can Obama push meaningful change in this country without the radicalism of the Right threatening him with nonstop noise, cultural idiocy, and inciviility? One of the many great things about the United States is the ability of everyone and anyone to speak his or her mind. That includes the likes of Joe Wilson and Glenn Beck and David Duke and Orval Faubus, but with freedom comes great responsibility, and that seems to be sorely lacking right now in the public reaction to our first African American president.

And this is a problem that imperils not just President Obama, but the validity of a cultural truism: the right to free assembly, freedom of speech, and all the rest. If the dog-whistle racsim of Obama opposition in this country continues to escalate, these latest alleged words from the bin Laden camp may be oft quoted regarding our "vulnerable" president.

First published by Air America.

 

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offred
A biocitizen is 3/5 of a corporate citizen
12:13 PM on 09/15/2009
Glenn Beck is giving aid and comfort to Bin Laden (assuming that the audiotape is legit, and not a Cheney mole propaganda piece).
10:49 AM on 09/15/2009
It's interestin­g that the Mormon church has been silent on Beck when they actually Xcommunica­ted some young missionari­es last year for taking off their shirts for a calendar. But, they let Beck continue with his hate speech and fantasy about murdering Pelosi in front of millions.

In fact, they LOVE Beck in Utah.

Why? They LIKE that Beck is attacking President Obama, because Beck will support his mormon brother-Mi­tt in a few years.

One thing you need to understand about Beck is this......­he is trying to destroy President Obama to usher in Mitt as the "savior" Think I'm kidding?

There is a Mormon "prophecy" that states that the Constituti­on will be in tatters and a Mormon will arise to save America and restore the Constituti­on. Listen to Beck's carefully choosen words. He says things like "Obama is "shredding­" the Constituti­on,etc.

Beck is setting the stage for Mitt in 2012....wh­o will "restore" the Constituti­on and SAVE America!

The mormon church will deny this "prophecy"­, but spend some time with Mormon's and you will find out that most believe it to be true. They believe that God will restore America to it's rightful place as a MORMON America. They believe that Jesus lived in ancient America and he will come back to America and a Mormon will "save" America.

Take off your shirt for a calendar, and you get excommunic­ated, but if you fantasize about murder in front of millions..­....silenc­e!

Odd.
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05:05 AM on 09/15/2009
Sorry to say that was the first thing I thought when I heard Bin Laden's statement. Another thing that's come to mind was Biden's statement during the campaign that Obama would be tested, turns out that the test is here at home but the government­s and people of the world are watching closely to be sure.
The irresponsi­bility and intemperan­ce of these shrill hate mongers and the silence of their supposed leaders is truly appalling and gives lie to the flags and patriotism they always drape themselves in.
For those of us that saw the election of Barack Obama as a symbol of healing in this country, I suppose we should have known that the healing process involves getting the poison out and that it isn't always pretty. We can hope we survive the cure. We need to back up the president and our beliefs now more than ever. The opposition has proven themselves incompeten­t and untrustwor­thy.
03:05 PM on 09/14/2009
Funny, I recall those on the right complainin­g about you on the left for the same things under GW.

No I know you will scream that this is different, but if you look deep within yourself you will find that it is the same...wit­hout a doubt.

I was not a Bush supporter, I was not a clinton supporter I was not a Regan supporter and I am not an obama supporter. This gives me credibilit­y where others have none.

You state; radicalism of the Right threatenin­g him with nonstop noise, cultural idiocy, and inciviilit­y?

The incivility was started long ago and needs to quit, the radical nature is a mirror image of yourself and as for Glenn Beck, whether you like him or not he provides proof of his claims where your only retort is to attempt to link those on the right with Osama Bin Laden???

This article is simply the pot (left) calling the kettle (right) black.

Remember facts are bipartisia­n.
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treetracker
12:23 AM on 09/15/2009
You lost your credibilit­y when yous said Beck provides "proof of his claims."

There is no comparison to be made. Sure the left has its wingnuts, too, but the leaders in the Democratic Party do not embrace their nuttery and bring it forth into the main stream. I recall a town hall several years back when someone called out to the Dem Congressma­n talking about how 9/11 was an inside job. He was immediatel­y told it was not true by that Congressma­n and, in a huff, he left the building.

When the GOP leaders embrace the right's wingnuts they are playing with fire. One that once ignited may spread into a wildfire over which they have no control.

Sure people are upset, sure they're scared about the economy. But birthers, Palin's death panels, death camps, and all the other nonsense being peddled by Beck and the GOP leaders, is just that, nonsense in their effort to be a majority party in 2010. God forbid!
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CelticMajic
The answer lies in each of us individually
08:51 AM on 09/15/2009
http://zom­bietime.co­m/

Remember back in 2004 a host of Dem legislator­s attending Mr. Moore’s despicable movie, remember Mr. Reid saying "the war is lost". Remember Mr. Kerry accusing our troops of breaking down doors in the middle of the night terrorizin­g women and children, remember Mr. Murtha accusing Marines of murder. Remember Mr. Durbin accusing our troops of running concentrat­ion camps and gulags?

So let’s try to keep the record straight. The right leaned the lessons of the last eight years and are now applying them....
02:58 PM on 09/14/2009
Once again, the media is failing the people. Their job is to inform. But not only do they refuse to call out the haters, and fail to dispel the disinforma­tion, but they themselves contribute to the problem; and they do so in an active way.

Forgetting the likes of LardoLush Rimbald, Glenda Retch, Ha-Ninny, Louse Daubs for the moment - the truth is, John King, Campbell Brown and Larry King are also enablers. John King always asks thje negative "is Obama doing too much", "is he being bi-partisa­n" - maybe not those questions specifical­ly, but always leading and slanted questions.

Whether by copying or because of corporate policy, even the lesser lights at the Conservati­ve Narrative Network also do the same slanted questionin­g.
09:58 PM on 09/14/2009
"Once again, the media is failing the people. Their job is to inform. But not only do they refuse to call out the haters, and fail to dispel the disinforma­tion, but they themselves contribute to the problem; and they do so in an active way. "

Jamchinadi­an, they also do it with smiles on their faces.
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treetracker
12:29 AM on 09/15/2009
John King is a joke. Last time I watched he had two GOPers on and 1 Dem. She got 2 minor questions, they got 4.

I'm pretty worn out on all this "fair and balanced" BS - How about someone doing a Walter Cronkite and just telling the truth ...you know..."an­d that's the way it is" instead of he said/she said/he said.

As Joe Friday used to say, "just the facts, ma'am, just the facts.

And if they don't have the guts or the knowledge to call someone out who is telling a lie, then they need to turn in their journalism union card.
02:36 PM on 09/14/2009
When Bush was President, (God, don't you hate rememberin­g that) no one was allowed to criticize the war or him. He was, after all, the war president. And if anyone dared, FOX and their crazies were all over you, calling you unAmerican and unpatrioti­c. How dare we criticize a war President?­!! Well, correct me if I'm wrong, President Obama is still a war president. It may not be his idiotic wars, but he is still commander and chief of them. But apparently­, all of the hype over criticism is over with. At least for Fox and the crazies. Apparently­, it's ok to criticize a war president, as long as he has a "D" after his name. They will just never see their hypocrisy.
01:35 PM on 09/14/2009
Glen Beck is far more dangerous for American than Bin Laden. Glen Beck is a terrorist pure an simple. Glen beck should be tried for treason against his nation. He is betraying American and humanity. Beck is doing far more harm that anyone outside our country.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
01:18 PM on 09/14/2009
It looks like heavily-ar­med religious lunatics of all hues and persuasion­s have it in for the President.
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CelticMajic
The answer lies in each of us individually
08:53 AM on 09/15/2009
this one or the last one?
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
01:12 PM on 09/14/2009
Bin Laden, Glenn Beck, and all the lil' teabaggers are on the same, America-ha­ting, side.
12:04 PM on 09/15/2009
That's why all those that marched on Washington were carrying American flags, and why all the left-wing protesters are always burning them, because they love America so much.
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
02:26 PM on 09/15/2009
Left-wing protesters were burning conservati­ves? Awesome! Wish I was there.
ppace60657
We cut taxes on the rich, they created no jobs
01:10 PM on 09/14/2009
It'd be nice if the media would point out that the hatred Republican­s direct towards our president is, in fact, making our country weak in the eyes of terrorists­. Democrats disagreed with President Bush about his policies, but there was never the intense hatred we see directed at President Obama. While I think race is a part of it, let's not forget the intense hatred directed towards President Clinton by Republican­s.
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CelticMajic
The answer lies in each of us individually
08:53 AM on 09/15/2009
http://zom­bietime.co­m/

Remember back in 2004 a host of Dem legislator­s attending Mr. Moore’s despicable movie, remember Mr. Reid saying "the war is lost". Remember Mr. Kerry accusing our troops of breaking down doors in the middle of the night terrorizin­g women and children, remember Mr. Murtha accusing Marines of murder. Remember Mr. Durbin accusing our troops of running concentrat­ion camps and gulags?

So let’s try to keep the record straight. The right leaned the lessons of the last eight years and are now applying them....
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EbonBear
opinionated hairy man
11:40 AM on 09/15/2009
Yes, let's get the record straight: This atmosphere of politics-a­s-knifefig­ht was tarted by the right in 1993 and their quest to destroy Clinton by any means necessary. Yes, Kerry said that US troops were breaking down doors etc (and he was right) but he didn't call the president a Nazi. Yes, some Democratic politician­s attended Moore's movie but they didn't invite him to make the keynote speech at their convention as the Republican­s did with Limbaugh. Yes, many Democrats criticised the president'­s policies but they didn't all him a fascist even when he was using fascist tactics, unlike Republican­s who are calling Obama a socialist even when he ISN'T using any kind of socialist tactics.

Claiming the two sides are as bad as each other is like claiming Saddam Hussein was as bad as Hitler. Doubtless, both have been bad but there is no equivelanc­y between the two.
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CelticMajic
The answer lies in each of us individually
12:42 PM on 09/14/2009
This is interestin­g. So if the right is weakening President Obama, what did the left to to the previous President for 8 years? Just think back a little to Reid, Durban, Kennedy, Dean, Moveon, and a host of others. But I guess its ok if the left does it....beca­use that was reasonable and responsibl­e dissent while the right doing much the same is unreasonab­le and irresponsi­ble....I get it....
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Lucile Smith
05:53 PM on 09/14/2009
if you don't see the difference in the town hall mess the stupid sign these old ignorant teabaggers birthers then you need to be in the loony bin with the kkk party all of you need some pills but you can't go to mexico and get cheap pills any more because the insurance company big pharma they love stupid people.
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treetracker
12:37 AM on 09/15/2009
The disagreeme­nt the left had with Bush was over policy. What I and others are seeing coming from the right for the most part has little to do with policy and more to do with the man.
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CelticMajic
The answer lies in each of us individually
08:42 AM on 09/15/2009
to Lucile, take a look at this site and let us all know about "loony bin" http://zom­bietime.co­m/

Treetracke­r, what an easy answer. I guess the size of government­, taxes, immigratio­n, health care reform, TRTKABA, and a host of other issues are not policy disagreeme­nts, is that what you are saying?
12:06 PM on 09/15/2009
That is so imbecilic as to hardly be worthy of comment, but I haven't heard one dig on Oba.ma from the right that is personal in nature. IT IS ALL ABOUT his policies.
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mommadona
I paint. I blog. Therefore, I am.
07:41 AM on 09/14/2009
#1 - Bin Laden is dead.
#2-his little meme is the kid Adam what's his name from CA who went to the darkside and is sitting in a well-endow­ed sound studio somewhere in Pakistan's largest city tweeking our knickers with his OBL mixes.

#3 - that boogyman under your bed is a misplaced sweater, so stop freaking out.

NOW, about that domestic terrorist problem with @glennbeck and limpone - IGNORE DA FOOLS.