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Libya, Sharia, and Us

Posted: 11/ 3/2011 6:37 pm

What should we think of this sharia affair? Could it be that we have supported the insurgents of Benghazi, only to discover, when it's all over, a State that forbids divorce and re-establishes polygamy? Details. Explanations.

1. It all began with one phrase. A single phrase. Of course, this phrase didn't come from just anyone, since it was uttered by Mustafa Abdeljalil, the President of the National Transitional Council and father of the victory. But, president or not, Abdeljalil is a member of a Council whose decisions are collegial. And this Council is, as its name indicates, an organ of transition whose purpose is not to decree the laws of the future Libya.

Abdeljalil expressed an opinion.

Perhaps a wish.

Perhaps it wasn't even a wish, rather a pledge granted the minority of Islamist fighters who paid the heaviest price in lives for this liberation.

And although he may have expressed what he really thinks, what weight should his opinion carry, considering that he, like all the members of the NTC, has promised not to seek any office in post-transitional Libya?

In order to know what this future Libya will look like, we must wait for the Constituent Assembly in eight months. Then the general elections. And then what type of government will be the result. To behave as though this little phrase, uttered in the heat of a rally by a man who is highly respected but about to leave the scene, were enough to "topple" the country amounts to malevolence, a biased standpoint.

2. There is sharia, and then there is sharia. And before going on and on about regression and glaciation, we would do well to know what we're talking about.

Sharia, first of all, is not an obscene word.

Like "jihad" (which means "a spiritual effort", and which the Islamists ultimately interpreted as a "holy war"), and "fatwa" (which means "religious advice" and which, due to the Rushdie affair, everyone has come to understand as "condemnation to death") the very word sharia is at the heart of a merciless war of semantics but, fortunately, continues to signify something eminently respectable for the majority of Muslims.

It is a term that appears five times in the Koran and that French translations render as "path".

It is not the name of a code, even less of an exhaustive straightjacket of rules, but that of a body of values subject to the interpretation of Doctors of the religion.

It is a generic term; in other words, it is the task of the legislators to propose an application of sharia that is more or less progressive or more or less strict.

Taking this into consideration, virtually all Muslim countries refer to sharia.

Most of them, including Gaddafi's Libya, from 1993 on, make it one of the sources of law.

When they do not, as is the case of Morocco, it is because Islam is already the State religion.
And the whole problem amounts to knowing what, then, is included in this term: the stoning of adulteresses, as in Iran? the amputation of thieves' limbs, as in Saudi Arabia? Or rather a sum of moral precepts one strives to combine with the Napoleonic Code, as is the case in Egypt?

3. In light of this problem, the question of what "path" Libya will chose is to be expected.
It goes without saying that we can anticipate a new battle, an ideological one in which the task will be to arbitrate between the minority who interpret sharia as the fanatics do and those who wish to see a compromise between sharia and the democratic ideal.

It is obvious that those of us who are among the friends of the new Libya, the allies who contributed to her liberation from one of the most bloodthirsty dictatorships of our times, have a role to play in aiding the country not to fall under the yoke of another kind of tyranny.

But, for pity's sake, no bad faith.

Let's not pull the number of a civil version of the proverbial "quagmire", when, after a week of air strikes, time already seemed to be dragging on, on the Libyans again.

And let's not demand of this Libya, crushed by 42 years of despotism, let us not ask of this country with neither a State nor a judicial tradition, without an actual civil society, to become in the space of three months a society of human rights.

Thirty years after Solidarnosc, Polish democracy is still in the stage of self-searching. Russia is still in its Putin phase.

France went through the Terror, the Restoration, two Empires and several blood baths before it was able to embody the republican ideal of 1789, and after that the ideal of a secular society.
And we expect Libya, itself, to pass from a dark night into light?

The battle will be rough.

There will be swerves, steps backward, moments of wandering off course.

But I know the men and women who wanted this revolution, in Benghazi or Misrata, well enough to know that they will not allow the rights they have won after such an intense struggle to be confiscated.

Post-Gaddafi Libya has become a major forefront of the great schism that is rippling through the Muslim world, the historic (and, from now on, democratic) confrontation between the two Islams, that of the Enlightenment and that of the shadows, that of the moderates and that of the extremists, the one that reaches out to Europe and that of the clash of civilizations. And I am willing to bet that, upon this stage, the friends of liberty will be victorious.

 
What should we think of this sharia affair? Could it be that we have supported the insurgents of Benghazi, only to discover, when it's all over, a State that forbids divorce and re-establishes polyga...
What should we think of this sharia affair? Could it be that we have supported the insurgents of Benghazi, only to discover, when it's all over, a State that forbids divorce and re-establishes polyga...
 
 
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NoRhymeOrReason
Teach your children well...
06:32 PM on 11/06/2011
I can only hope that Libya is better at being a Muslim nation than America is at being a Christian nation.
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CubnKira
11:38 PM on 11/06/2011
Why don't you go there if you hate America so much. Let's see if you would even come close to freedom of speech, press and religion. Any bets?
05:27 PM on 11/06/2011
One can only hope that the "New Libya", will not fall under the awesome specter that is Sharia.
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gutenmorgen
a.k.a. poopdeck
05:16 PM on 11/06/2011
Law is the least of Libya's problems. The real problem is mobs armed with Kalashnikov guns and light artillery mounted on trucks who have angrily told Mr. Mustafa Abdeljalil that they will not give up their treasured arms. Mr. Mustafa Abdeljalil has already told the mobs that they can keep their arms. The mobs will not allow Mr. Mustafa Abdeljalil and his successors to establish an American-style democracy in which they will sink into what Marx called "Lumpenproletariat". Above all they will demand payback even if they have only fired a few Kalashnikov shots into the air in Benghazi. Although "Libya" was not defeated by a foreign power it has the trappings of an Arab Weimar republic. Its future ruler will be another ruthless dictator.
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
05:07 PM on 11/06/2011
Cue the xenophobic rants from people who get all their "information" from Pamela Geller.
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morristhewise
03:56 PM on 11/06/2011
Tel Aviv and Haifa are on the verge of destruction, thousands of Arab missiles are aimed and ready to be launched. Israel cannot sit back and face annihilation; there is no choice except to fight the final war. When the smoke clears there will be a greater Israel, a manager of oil properties and friend of America.
10:23 AM on 11/06/2011
"It is obvious that those of us who are among the friends of the new Libya, the allies who contribute­d to her liberation­...have a role to play in aiding the country not to fall under the yoke of another kind of tyranny."
Translated into normal language:
"God forbid they choose their own goverment we don't like. We put them in power we own Lybia now"
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KenMoore
Cunning Linguist
01:49 AM on 11/06/2011
There are those out there who can say whatever they want, twist what is happening to be whatever their agenda is, but history has shown that over the millennia, folks in this part of the world prefer to have those in power who kick the crap out of them the most. The average Yusuf six pack has spent his life being subservient to someone higher on the ladder, and the same thing has been the story since Ishmael was booted into the desert. The fellahin have been robbed, oppressed, starved, and generally mistreated by their OWN KIN for so long, they won't have it any other way. Even if somehow the government is changed, through force of arms (rarely without outside help), establishment of outside rulers, etc, and things get better, it doesn't take long for them to do what is necessary to mess it up, so that here comes the Iron Boot again, be it from secular or religious authorities.
I can say this for one reason: In these countries where it seems that literally EVERYONE has a AK 47 under their bed, WHY DO THESE PEOPLE PUT UP WITH THIS BEHAVIOR?
For one reason and one reason only: It's the way they want it.
07:24 AM on 11/06/2011
Well, then, Ken, perhaps you should read Chalmers Johnson's "The Sorrows of Empire," or Steve Coll's "Ghost Wars" to learn how often through the years the US has overthrown democraticaclly elected governments, starting with Iran's Mossadegh in 1953, leading to all of the subsequent problems with Iran, or how often the US has supported brutal dictators, or even helped them gain power, such as we did with Saddam Hussein in '68, when the CIA helped him overthrow his country's government. Or take a look at the proxy war we thought with the USSR on Afghan soil, where we recruited Muslim jihadists such as Bin Laden to fight the Russians on our behalf, turning what had been a relatively open country into rubble, and in the resulting chaos, allowing brutal warlords to take control.

The people of those countries want freedom just as much as anyone else does, but until the Arab spring, we made sure their dictators stayed in power and kept control of the people. Their resulting form of government might not look like ours (who would want the dysfunctional system we have?), but after a decade or so of growing pains, they'll settle into something that works for them, UNLESS we decide it's our right to go in and interfere again.
01:07 PM on 11/06/2011
In our defense, both Presidents Obama and Bush have referenced the US engineered Iranian coup of 1953 as a mistake. At least we admit our errors, it just takes 50 years or more. I'm not disagreeing, megwright, just adding a little nuance. I haven't read Ghost Wars yet, but I highly recommend Reset: Iran, Turkey, and America's Future by Stephen Kinzer which covers the democratic movements in the early 20th century and bolsters your point that everyone wants freedom.
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KenMoore
Cunning Linguist
02:22 AM on 11/07/2011
As for your first paragraph, I agree absolutely.
As for the second, not so much.
The people who live there do not want freedom as much as anyone else, as can be told by their history (Iran). It is a continuous line of brutal dictatorships and theocracies, stretching back to the Persians. While the overthrow of the Shah was completely understandable ( although there are probably many today who would find him enlightened and far less repressive), the subsequent formation of the oppressive theocratic gov't in power since 1979, has been the type of thing that seems to take place in the middle east, and near east in general. Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule, but the family/clan/tribe structure that worked at one time for protection, does not seem to be able to be modified sufficiently to allow for the modernization of thought processes that can allow the lifting of individuals (and families), without bringing suspicion and ill will from those, who through inability, unwillingness, or lack of potential are left behind.
10:48 PM on 11/05/2011
Basic to Sharia, if the word is to be used at all, is that all religions are "Under the wing of Islam", and any democracy is nesting in a theocratic state. Toleration of other religions there may be, but not a purely secular constitution. This description means no real democracy is possible as a religious veto is given the state religion.
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gutenmorgen
a.k.a. poopdeck
05:32 PM on 11/06/2011
To the best of my understanding there is not one Arab nation whose head of state is also the head of its national church. The Christian West has such a head of state. It is the Queen of England. Perhaps Mr. Levy should turn his attention to that aberration.
06:32 PM on 11/06/2011
There is a great difference between titular power, which can do nothing much, such as the Queen of England, and real power of life and death, such as the Ayatollah of Iran. As also throughout the Middle East the clerics who can publish fatwahs calling for the murder of persons untried by any law, and penalties found in no law code of civilized society. Sharia, and Under the Wing of Islam is no place to place a democracy.
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11:46 AM on 11/05/2011
It's helpful to know the origins of the word "Sharia", as well as it's openness to interpretation. Western observers, encouraged by the media, are quick to conjure up images of the most stifling and repressive social conservatism, including practices that would be deemed barbaric in our part of the world, whenever they hear that word. However, in its original presentation the word is very benign, so it's important to keep in mind that the Libyan Leaders' interpretation of Sharia could potentially be something more moderate than what Westerners are used to.

There's a passage here that worries me though:

"It is obvious that those of us who are among the friends of the new Libya, the allies who contributed to her liberation...have a role to play in aiding the country not to fall under the yoke of another kind of tyranny."

Like Sharia, that sentence is also open to a dangerous kind of interpretation. Naturally, we have a duty to ensure that the new fledgling government stands, but beyond that, I think the west should keep its hands clean. Besides, if an arch-conservative Sharia law is the other kind of tyranny the author is referring to, and it is voted in place via the democratic process, it will be a tyranny of the electorate's own choosing. The west shouldn't superimpose it's own values on Libya.
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kodimirpal
teacher
11:38 AM on 11/05/2011
Selective reading by many readers (Robert and other) makes them blind to the real Islamic spirit of Jihad and his posts make me feel sad as he discredits my intentions.

There is a well known saying of Muhammad(pbuh). He was returning from a battle. He said,
Quote “WE RETURN FROM THE LITTLE JIHAD TO THE GREATER JIHAD”.

The little Jihad he mentioned was the battle and the greater Jihad he mentioned was conquering the forces of evil in oneself and in one’s own society in all the details of daily life.

The Quran amplifies this forcefully, quote

“ Had God not driven back the people, some by the means of others, the earth had surely been corrupted ; but God is merciful unto all beings.”

When the people of a territory were chased out of their land like morbid dogs by the merciless hordes and aggressors ( as it happened in Palestine) the people of Palestine can engage in Jihad but strictly under the laws of Islam following their spiritual leader. You want a present day example , you got one.
The Quran says

“Fighting is an evil thing, but to bar people from God’s way, disbelief in Him and the Holy Mosque, and to expel its people from it ---that is more evil in God’s sight. And persecution is worse than
killing.” Holy Quran 2: 213. So the example the persecuted Palestinians have every right to do Jihad.
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kodimirpal
teacher
11:36 AM on 11/05/2011
Jihad is grossly misunderstood by many of non-Muslim scholars like our friend S.F.Robert .

A great God based and morality based religion is not worth the name religion at all if it does not support JIHAD that is : taking efforts, struggling hard and if necessary taking arms by the good against the evil.

Did not the Americans carry out Jihad in various countries fighting against aggression, oppression, occupation, persecution, tyranny, discrimination, human right violations and injustice. If Muslims do it as per strict religious rules why brand with a different name.

In Islam JIHAD signifies a physical, moral , spiritual and intellectual effort. There are plenty of Arabic words denoting armed combat, such as HARB (War), SIRA’A( Combat), MA’ARAKU (Battle) QITAL ( Killing).

The Quran could have easily used these words if was had been the Muslims’ principal way of engaging in this effort. Instead the Quran chooses a vaguer, richer word with a wide range of connotations. The Jihad is not one of the five pillars of Islam. It is not the central prop of
the religion despite the common view of non-Muslims.

But it was and remains a duty for Muslims to commit themselves to a struggle on all fronts- moral, spiritual and political---to create a just and decent society, where the poor and the vulnerable are not exploited, in the way that God had intended man to live.

Fighting is/ was only a minor part of the whole JIHAD
07:34 AM on 11/06/2011
Excellent explanation, Kodimir. Fanned and faved.
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GeoffreyF
Pragmatic Liberal in Massachusetts
09:00 AM on 11/06/2011
I completely agree. The word Jihad within Islam is actually quite similar to "Crusade" within Christianity. When a minister gathers up his followers and announces a Crusade, he is usually talking about a time of reflection and study in the faith. Of course we also know that Crusades were at times violent. In this context though, I think that Jihad in terms of fighting in the Islamic tradition is far more defensive in its practice, considered overall than Crusades were. That is the history as I understand it.

I have the utmost respect for Islam. I really admire it. I happen to be ethnically Jewish and I will also point out that "Israel" has a similar meaning, it means "Struggle with God". That is also open to misinterpretation and misuse.
10:34 AM on 11/05/2011
The Al-Qaeda flag has been flying high over Libya and the governments of the western world that helped remove Gaddafi from power don’t seem to mind at all. The flag, which contains the phrase “there is no God but Allah” with a full moon underneath, has been photographed flying beside the new national flag of Libya at the courthouse in Benghazi. The courthouse in Benghazi is where the “rebels” established their provisional government, and it is where the “media center” for communication with foreign journalists was located during the fight against Gaddafi. So it isn’t as if the al-Qaeda flag has been flying over some insignificant building. But this should be no surprise. It has been known all along that al-Qaeda was very heavily represented in the army of “the rebels” and among the leadership of “the rebels”. Now, thanks to Obama, they have taken over Libya and they intend to impose a brutal form of Sharia law on the entire Libyan population.
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Aarontastic
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12:03 PM on 11/05/2011
omgomgomg! you're right. Where did that come from?

Anyways, while it certainly bodes ill for the secular prospects of the country, but you shouldn't jump to conclusions either about how much they will influence the country's transition. I know that fundamentalists made up a portion of the rebel army, but of equal importance is the background of those who make up the transitional council. Their self-proclaimed mission is to bring about democratic government in Libya, and if that happens, the fundamentalists' power in the new state will be limited to their popularity.
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GeoffreyF
Pragmatic Liberal in Massachusetts
09:03 AM on 11/06/2011
It is not the "Al-Qaeda flag". It is the Shahada which proclaims "there is no deity but god and Mohammed is his messenger." The first part, I doubt any monotheist can disagree with and the second is obvious that any Muslim would believe that.

I don't have a problem with it. If you are so freaked out about it, maybe we can do something about all those death ritual cruxifixs I see all over the USA. Seriously, as a Jewish person I would start with Christian symbols but I personally don't think that flags and other symbols are a big deal.
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With Your Consent
Speak Truth to Power
07:42 AM on 11/05/2011
History will not call Levy a philosopher.
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GeoffreyF
Pragmatic Liberal in Massachusetts
09:05 AM on 11/06/2011
Really, and you have studied philosophy in depth? You know about Islam to the same depth as he does? I doubt it. I am quite sure that History will not even remember you and that History is already quite justifiably calling Bernard Henri-Levy a philosopher. I know that I do.

I also know that Robert Spencer will be forgotten as a lying fanatic.
10:10 AM on 11/06/2011
Yep same depth as Julius Streicher had about Judaism. I find it rather funny how poeple who openly advocate war forget what with good reason happened to those who did same mere 60 years ago.
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With Your Consent
Speak Truth to Power
07:41 AM on 11/05/2011
Levy was in Benghazi days before..... the "first protests".

Peel back the onion....

It was a production. Staged. Top to bottom. This is what they do.
06:10 AM on 11/05/2011
Can I paraphrase Mr. Levy and extrapolate his words about Libya to Palestine?

“It is obvious that those of us who are among the friends of Palestine want her liberation from one of the most bloodthirsty dictatorships of our times, have a role to play in aiding the country not to remain under the yoke of this kind of tyranny.

But let's not demand of Israel, crushing Palestinians with 63 years of despotism, let us not ask of Israel without any equality, justice, or sense of common decency, to become a society of human rights.”

I hope that Mr. Levy’s charm about liberating Libya can be applied to Palestine as well. For after all, I’m sure this is what he meant.
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07:38 AM on 11/05/2011
lol!
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Aarontastic
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12:09 PM on 11/05/2011
It doesn't make sense to compare Libya's situation to "Palestine's". The two situations are governed by completely different dynamics. For one: Israel, in spite of all of its crimes, is hardly a tyranny. It's motivation for its actions is quite different from Ghaddifi's, as is just about everything else.