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Principles Before Potsickers (From Foodie to Vegetarian in 10 Not-So-Easy Lessons)

Posted: 02/24/2012 6:12 pm

On my blog, The Lunch Tray, I made a series of 2012 New Year's resolutions which included trying out vegetarianism for one month (January). Here's the somewhat surprising journey I've taken since then, broken down into ten lessons I've learned:

Lesson One:  Meatless at Home = Piece of Cake (or Tofu)

Going meatless at home turned out to be almost effortless. The transition was probably eased by the fact that I gave up pork and shellfish several years ago (more on that below) and my family only eats meat about 2-3 times a week at home anyway. So all I did was put a bit more thought and effort into my meal planning by creating interesting vegetable and grain pilafs, trying out new vegetarian entrees and revisiting some foods I hadn't had in a while, like tempeh and seitan. I didn't miss the meat at all.

But...

Lesson Two:  Vegetarian + Chow Hound = Oxymoron?

We're a family of avid chow hounds and exploring our city's many great restaurants, from the higher-end eateries to the little ethnic holes-in-the wall, is one of our favorite things to do.

In early January I was challenged right out of the gate when my husband and kids wanted to eat at a burger place we love. Though everything served at the restaurant is house-made, right down to the condiments, there's literally nothing on the menu but burgers and hot dogs. I noticed on the menu that the burgers could be topped with fried eggs, so I made do with a fried egg sandwich; much less successful was my attempt to resist the crispy fries -- finished in duck fat.

But then it got even harder. The next weekend we went to a new Schezwan place my husband had been raving about. I've never been a big burger fan but I adore Chinese food, and while there were a few meat-free dishes on the menu, it just wasn't any fun -- as a card-carrying Foodie -- to feel so constrained while everyone else at the table was exclaiming over their red oil potstickers and spicy noodles with beef.

The end of January couldn't come fast enough.

Lesson Three: Know Your Food Philosophy

A few days later I was making breakfast for my kids and absentmindedly started nibbling on an extra piece of turkey bacon; before I realized what I'd done, I'd eaten the whole thing.  And truthfully, I didn't care very much. I mean, what's one piece of turkey -- and, OK, a little duck fat -- in a month of meals?

And in that moment I asked myself, why not just acknowledge I was a happy "flexitarian" -- someone who just eats less meat  overall -- and leave it at that?  Or, if I really intended to eat meat-free, I needed to be able to articulate to myself the motivation for trying this experiment in the first place.

What, in the end, was my food philosophy?

Lesson Four: My Cat Made Me Do It

I'm embarrassed to admit this to myself, let alone say it publicly, but somewhere in my muddled thinking about vegetarianism lurked an orange and white tabby cat named Clementine.

Here's the back story: Neither I nor my husband were really "animal people" and we were most definitely not "cat people," a class of pet owners I've always regarded with extra suspicion.  But, worn down by years of our kids' nagging for a pet, we made the cold calculation that a cat would require less maintenance than a dog.

We found Clementine in a shelter and while I was initially charmed by her fetching little mustache and limpid hazel eyes, that honeymoon lasted about 24 hours, ending right around the time her undisclosed digestive problems (some genetic, some parasite-induced) manifested themselves all over my floors and carpets.  As the stay-at-home pet owner, it fell to me to manage and medicate those problems, and as I carted yet another baggie of cat poop to the vet for expensive laboratory analysis, I could hardly contain my resentment.  In a crazed moment, I even considered toting the cat back to the shelter (surely there must be some sort of "Lemon Law" for pets?) and just telling the kids she ran away.

But then... well, who really knows what happened? Maybe it was a simple matter of cognitive dissonance.  If you're down on all fours cleaning up the poop of a creature you hate, you're an idiot.  But if you fall passionately in love with said creature, it all makes perfect sense, right?

Three years later, I'm one of those mockable cat owners who doesn't care if their sweater is matted with fur or that their newly upholstered armchair is a very expensive scratching post.  I don't mind rewriting Lunch Tray entries after Clementine has taken one of her unhurried strolls across my keyboard, and at night I'm unable to fall asleep until she's settled into her usual spot, curled up in the crook of my arm, with my poor husband left out in the cold.

And -- yes, because of Clementine -- I'll never be able to look at any animal quite the same way again.  I still remember the precise moment when I realized that pet ownership had fundamentally changed me.  We were taking the rather boring four-hour drive from Houston to Dallas when I looked out the passenger window at a group of cows, a common sight on that stretch of highway.  But for a split second as the car sped past, my gaze locked with a pair of big bovine eyes and I was startled.  It wasn't that I experienced a sudden kinship with this anonymous cow, but all at once I realized that something of Clemmie's nature, the same fundamental... animality, for lack of a better word, was staring back at me.  What I'd previously viewed as almost an inanimate object -- "brown cow by roadside" -- was now inescapably something more.

Lesson Five: Don't Ask Questions You Don't Want Answered

This is where the novelist Jonathan Safran Foer comes in. I had long wanted to read his nonfiction book on vegetarianism, Eating Animals, and since I was now searching for a philosophical grounding for my (maybe) nascent vegetarianism, this seemed like a good time to finally do it.

Eating Animals is a jumble of memoir, humor and philosophy and catchy graphics, but mostly it's a scorching, unstinting expose of factory farming practices in this country, practices which produce 99 percent of the meat we eat. You might think, as I did, that having read The Ominvore's Dilemma and having read or seen Food Inc., there's not much more Safran-Foer could add to this particular discussion.  But you'd be wrong.  The statistics and descriptions he provides, verified by two independent fact-checkers, were astounding. The book was sometimes simply unbearable to read and I was often sorry I'd ever opened it.

But I don't want to share with you the specific details in Eating Animals. And that's because, as I've learned the hard way...

Lesson Six :  Not Everyone Wants to Hear It

As Safran-Foer correctly points out in his book, contentedly eating meat, especially factory-farmed meat, takes a certain amount of willful not-knowing.  The very subject of vegetarianism can make some people uncomfortable, a situation I encountered even during my little one-month experiment.  So if you want to read the book, you know where to find it.  And if you don't, I promise you'll get no judgment here.

Lesson Seven:  Who Knew Lisa Simpson Was a Vegetarian?

Meanwhile, here's what was going on with my kids.  When they first learned of my dabbling in vegetarianism they had the typical kid-centric reaction:  how is this going to affect me?

I assured them nothing in their own lives would change, and I also decided not to expose them to most of the new facts I was learning about factory farming, lest I upset them too much.  (Everyone please take one moment to consider the implications of that sentence.)  In fact, the only tidbit I shared from Eating Animals was Safran-Foer's survey of research on animal intelligence.  I thought my kids, like I, would be tickled to learn about a lady pig who was so eager to visit her pig suitor that she managed to unlock the several gates that separated them, or that fish apparently can recognize each other as individuals and remember which fish can be trusted and which cannot.

But instead of amusing them, I think I inadvertently got their wheels turning: Oh, yeah, that meat on my plate was once an animal.

And then a few days later we sat down together to watch a random rerun of The Simpsons.  In a case of remarkable serendipity, the episode was about Lisa Simpson's journey to vegetarianism, inspired by a visit to a petting zoo.  I thought the episode was hilarious -- until I turned from the TV and saw the stricken look on my kids faces.

Lesson Eight: Putting My Principles Before My Potstickers

As I continued to work my way through Eating Animals, the contours of my food philosophy were taking shape: I decided that I can't ever again eat an animal raised on a factory farm.  Period.

Now, the implications of that statement are seriously painful to me, since I have no illusions that the vast majority of restaurants we enjoy so much (especially the small ethnic ones) are buying anything but factory-farmed meat.  So this rapacious foodie is hereby saying goodbye -- OMG, forever??? -- to lamb biryani, Bosnian sausage sandwiches, those still-untasted red oil potstickers and a host of other delicacies I once enjoyed so enthusiastically. And I'm very much in mourning about it.

Of course, certain upscale or eco-conscious restaurants don't buy factory-farmed meat, and I can always seek out humanely raised meat for my own kitchen. And this leads me to...

Lesson Nine: Going Face-to-Snout (or -Nose or -Beak) With The World's Happiest Animal

Now for the fundamental question has plagued me for the last month and a half: Even if a cow, chicken or sheep had the happiest farm life imaginable, and experienced the most humane slaughter, do I still want to eat it? Because, unlike some people, I don't think it's morally wrong to kill an animal (humanely raised and slaughtered) for food.

One flaw of Safran-Foer's book, in my opinion, is the way he dances around this critical question.  In fact, the most direct answer he provides is not found in the book itself but in an author interview appended to the back my paperback edition.  The interviewer asked if he would eat meat from the "perfect" farm and he replied:

I wouldn't, for two reasons. One, because endorsing the exception is to endorse the rule.  People would see me as another person eating meat. You know, it's like what happened with farmed fish.  Salmon farming was originally created to take pressure off of wild salmon populations... [b]ut what happened was, when more supply was created, there was more demand for while salmon because our eating habits are contagious. There was more salmon on the menu suddenly, and you see your friends eating salmon, and so you eat salmon -- that has more power than does conscientious eating.

There's also the fact that the kind of farming you're talking about can't be scaled.  There's enough humane chicken now raised in America to feed Staten Island, at the rate we're eating chicken... [W]e don't create systems for the exception, we create them for the rule.

Even after my limited experiment, I agree with Safran-Foer that one's eating choices, even if one doesn't proselytize about them, do have a ripple effect. Elsewhere in the book he writes:

As a "solitary eater," your decisions will, in and of themselves, do nothing to alter the industry.  That said, unless you obtain your food in secret and eat it in the closet, you don't eat alone.  We eat as sons and daughters, as families, as communities, as generations, as nations, and increasingly as a globe.  We can't stop our eating from radiating influence even if we want to.

So is that reason enough to avoid the World's Happiest Cow?  That if I partook of the happy cow, I'm still supporting meat-eating at large, which 99 percent of the time is only made possible by a system I protest?

I'm not quite sure how I feel about that.  But I do know that on a gut level adopting a vegetarian diet feels "right" to me at this point in time  -- the same way cutting out pork and shellfish a few years ago, even though I was raised as an secular Jew, also just started to "feel right."  I can't explain either move with much logic and clarity, but since I try to listen to my gut instincts in other aspects of my life, why not do so at the table?

So, for now, anyway, I'm going meat-free.*  I may revisit that decision down the road, resuming the consumption of humanely-raised meat in my own home and from trusted restaurants.  But if my experience with pork and shellfish is instructive, I predict I'll just gradually -- and permanently -- lose the desire to eat any meat at all.

Lesson Ten: Where the Head Cook Goes, The Family Must Follow 

It's just a fact that the idiosyncratic tastes of the parent primarily responsible for food prep will impact how the rest of the family eats. For example, I've never much liked Cajun food, so my family has never seen "blackened" anything on our dinner table and probably never will.

And so it goes with vegetarianism. Whereas before I might have gotten all jazzed up about some Moroccan lamb dish, and then come up with some sides to go with it, now I'm thinking about delicious grain, legume and vegetable dishes and adding meat to the menu (sometimes) as an afterthought. And I no longer have much interest in cooking one-dish meat-based meals like beef stew, since that's going to be a lot of work to create something I can't partake of at all.

So whether they're on board or not, as a practical matter my family's already-reduced meat consumption has been reduced even further. My husband's quite happy with this development; though a Texas-born carnivore, he cares about his health and is happy to eat most of his meat out of the house.  And, interestingly, my kids haven't seemed to notice at all that meat is appearing on the table less often.

Moral Quandaries Yet to Be Solved

Here are a few:

* What about fish?  Jonathan Safran-Foer makes some compelling arguments against eating fish, which of course is also eating an animal.  (In accordance with Lesson Six, I'll let you read these arguments yourself if you'd like.)  But I'm not yet decided on whether I want to eliminate fish from my diet entirely.  For one thing, in the last two months eating fish has made dining out with others -- at least at restaurants with limited menus -- much easier.  So fish, in very limited quantities, remains a part of my diet for now.

Where do I buy meat?  Since I'm still buying some meat for my family, and since I no longer ever want to patronize suppliers of factory-farmed meat, what are my options?  Must I always confine myself to the limited selection at my local farmer's market?  Or can I rely on the Whole Foods rating system which purports to show how humanely animals were raised?    These are questions I'm still working out.

And what about my children?  Ever since I -- and Lisa Simpson! --  inadvertently started the conversation, my kids have expressed some discomfort with the idea of eating meat and are troubled by their limited understanding of factory farming.  But they've also made clear they want to eat all the same foods, including meat, they currently enjoy.  In other words, they're living in the same fuzzy moral universe most American adults find themselves in.

And that's fine with me.

Now, I can hear some of you asking, if you feel so strongly about all this, why aren't you making your children follow suit?  How can you let them eat at a restaurant meat which you strongly suspect was factory-farmed?  My answer is that vegetarianism (or avoiding all but humanely raised meat) is not without some real inconveniences and obstacles.  Eating out becomes more difficult and more limited.  Breaking bread with other people can be fraught.  I have no desire for my kids to shoulder those burdens now, but would rather they observe my example and decide in due course how they feel.  At the very least, they are already de facto "flexitarians," are asking the relevant questions and becoming more conscious eaters along the way.

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So there you have it:  how one blogger -- and (former?) foodie -- went from meat-eater to vegetarian over the course of 30 (well, now almost 60) days. I'll continue down this path for the foreseeable future, and may check back in on The Lunch Tray from time to time to let you know how it's going.

For those of you who managed to read this far, thanks for sticking with me. And I'd be glad to hear what you have to say.

 

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On my blog, The Lunch Tray, I made a series of 2012 New Year's resolutions which included trying out vegetarianism for one month (January). Here's the somewhat surprising journey I've taken since the...
On my blog, The Lunch Tray, I made a series of 2012 New Year's resolutions which included trying out vegetarianism for one month (January). Here's the somewhat surprising journey I've taken since the...
 
 
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Bettina Elias Siegel
08:48 PM on 02/28/2012
Hey all - I'm a relatively new blogger at the HuffPo and am really having trouble navigating the comment thread effectively. (I'm used to my WordPress blog where comments seem to be posted in a more logical manner.) At any rate, I do feel I've learned a tremendous amount from all of you and am especially grateful for those offering kind words and encouragement from others on the same or similar path. And I stand corrected on whether a vegetarian can be a "foodie" - I guess my former use of "foodie" meant eating with an omnivorous, wide-ranging, adventurous spirit, and once meat is out of the picture, the available food universe to explore is a bit smaller. That's all. But, yes, bring on the butternut squash! :-)
02:17 PM on 02/27/2012
Had to take a few notes while reading this...

You can still be a vegetarian foodie! I know I certainly am one. And take a look at the vegetarian and vegan blogging community and places like thePPK.com. We love our plant-based food and are as passionate about butternut squash as any foodie is about, say, steak.

And as for fish, well. I must say that fish is meat and that vegetarians don't eat meat. It truly is easy to avoid, too. Even sushi bars seem to be carrying more veg sushi these days. And fishing is a disaster for the environment as I'm sure you know from reading Foer's book. There was a study recently that found that producing one bag of frozen shrimp produces 1 ton (yes, a TON) of co2. I do not believe that anyone can effectively justify that.

Finally, humane meat. From what I've discovered, it seems to me that humane labels are more about making the consumer feel good than it is about helping the animals. I believe that it is much easier and cheaper to just avoid meat altogether. Unless you visit the farm personally, there is really no way to know how the animals are actually treated. At the end of the day, even "humane" meat is supporting violence and is unnecessarily denying an animal it's right to life.
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Daughter of Pan
01:34 AM on 02/28/2012
For what it's worth, I love butternut squash. That said, you need to realize that there is no such thing as a humane crop, at least not on a large scale. You can't grow crops without destroying habitat and killing billions of animals. Just because those animals don't appear on your plate doesn't mean they didn't die so you can eat. (Out of sight, out of mind?) And let's be honest. Destroying habitat with machinery and pesticides is violent.
10:47 AM on 02/28/2012
I'll accept that. And if there was research into which crops are least violent, I'd put that into consideration when making food choices. And "violent" harvesting and deforestation is just as much a part of raising livestock as it is growing crops, if not more so. It takes a lot more crop to raise livestock than if we were to eat them directly.
10:55 AM on 02/28/2012
FandF, I know it's absolutely important to you that you mention this on every story regarding veg*nism, but I think that plantbasedpunk knows that no diet is without harm. Our lives are not without harm. We live in houses, after all, and the building of those destroys habitats. We drive on roads, ride our bicycles on roads, or walk on sidewalks--the construction of which all destroys habitats. It's great that you have a space on this planet in which you can grow much of your food, but the reality is that the increased urbanization of global populations means that we have to reduce our ecological impacts in varying ways that do not rely on tracts of land that many people do not and never will have access to. The debate about abstaining from meat and animal products is not a product of an industrialized world. It is a debate that extends back a couple of thousand years at least, so diminishing that debate's implications by anachronistically tying it to monoculture farming in the modern era is willfully to ignore the arguments of other adherents to veg*nism.
01:09 PM on 02/27/2012
I reject the idea that you can't be a vegetarian and a foodie. I am a lover of all different kinds of foods. I just don't eat animals. If you appreciate the care it takes to make delicious meals, you are a foodie. If you want, come over to my house and I'll cook a yummy meal, filled with delicious flavors, for you. All without killing a single creature.
11:17 AM on 02/27/2012
Just read your article. BRAVO for following your conscience. I became a vegetarian almost 30 years ago. From the start I was very comfortable in my philosophy to no longer eat animal flesh, eggs or fish, while ignoring my conscience about the dairy industry because I didn't want to give up cheese or ice cream. In recent years I could no longer blindly consume dairy products and have been a vegan ever since. I like the way my (subjective) conscience is clear about what I eat.

Sometimes our food choices are less intentional than we realize - emotional, cultural, familial, shaped by advertising, etc. Regarding the emotional component, just look at how some people fiercely defend their food choices and beliefs or seek comfort food. From any perspective, it's fairly easy to find "facts" to support our choices.

If someone wants to eat meat/fish/fowl/eggs/dairy and their conscience is clear AND they are cognizant of what occurred to put their food on the plate, so be it. However, a key issue is whether we are making an informed decision about food purchasing and consumption, since sadly the food industry (and its hold on the FDA and USDA) prevents most people from learning about what really goes on. What a perfect time to extend the Occupy movement to the food we consume.
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Daughter of Pan
01:38 AM on 02/28/2012
What you fail to realize is that crops can't be grown without destroying habitat and killing billions of animals. For what it's worth, there are ways to grow livestock that improve habitat by building topsoil, recharging watersheds, increasing biodiversity and creating carbon sinks (pastures).

There is no black or white... only shades of gray.
01:09 AM on 02/27/2012
"Not a single long-term tillage system on earth exists without an herbivorious component. You can't just substitute tofu (made from tilage--soybeans) for the herbivore. It doesn't work ecologically. Period. No matter how much you like tofu.

This is perhaps one of the biggest misunderstandings people have about farming ecology. In a desire to get rid of the cow, they want to substitute plants that require tillage. No long-term example exists in which tillage is sustainable. It always requires injection of biomass from outside the system or a soil-development pasture cycle. To think that plants which require tillage can build soil like perennial pasture indicates environmental absurdity."

--Joel Salatin, from Folks, This Ain't Normal
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01:31 AM on 02/27/2012
hot dam, i wish i'd said that!
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Bettina Elias Siegel
09:35 AM on 02/27/2012
Wildisthewind: I very much appreciate all the information you've shared here, and I don't actually think we're in disagreement (maybe you didn't think that, either).

I have no beef at all (pun intended) with the raising of animals for food, though it's clear that we are currently raising FAR more animal protein than we need. I understand the interplay between animals and plant growth, and am certainly not suggesting that we try to break that link. I strongly support the type of animal farming Joel Salatin and others engage in even if, for whatever personal reasons, I've decided to forego all meat.

I regard this personal change I've made to my diet (which, admittedly, I voluntarily made public by writing about it here and on The Lunch Tray) is simply a vote with my dollars against the predominant method of raising animals in this country, i.e. factory farming. And I think I make pretty clear in my post that I'm not pushing vegetarianism or veganism on anyone or arguing that it is the solution to the world's food or environmental problems.

All I hope to do is encourage people at least think a bit about where their meat is currently coming from, and to ask themselves if they're OK with it.
10:41 AM on 02/27/2012
Your article was really interesting, exceptionally thoughtful, and very well-written..

Yes, I don't think there's really all that much disagreement between you and us "conscientious omnivores". And writers such as wildisthewind, FaunaAndFlora, and elcerritan, are absolute goldmines of valuable information on this subject - I never cease to be amazed at how knowledgeable they are, and how much effort they're willing to put into educating others.

I completely agree that the only way things are going to change is for people to start thinking, and caring, about where their food comes from. There are lots of different approaches and perspectives on this, but at least we can all agree on this basic principle.

(By the way, people who are judging you for not imposing vegetarianism on your kids seriously need to mind their own business.)
11:05 AM on 02/27/2012
Thanks Bettina. I greatly appreciate your genuine effort to navigate these complicated issues. If you find that you feel good on a vegetarian diet, by all means, keep it up. I think that for some people, it's a good choice. I don't believe in one-size-fits-all solutions. For myself, a vegetarian diet is better than the SAD, but words cannot fully describe how extremely much better I feel with healthy animal foods in my diet.

I don't actually agree with the notion that we are raising too much animal protein. I just think we have to be smarter about how we raise all of our food, both plant and animal. You might be interested in Allan Savory's amazingly effective work, using intensive animal grazing that mimics nature to to restore soil and reverse desertification:
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/Greener_Pastures/

I personally know people using those methods with amazing success. Conversely, whatever plants you use to replace that protein will take from the land. Replacing deep-rooted perennial systems with the shallow-rooted annuals of plant ag will always have a great price. And on the health front, the notion of replacing healthy animal foods with more grains is pure insanity for most people.
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Bettina Elias Siegel
05:46 PM on 02/26/2012
I've been interested to read the comments of elcerritan, Wildisthewind and Flora and Fauna which seem to be arguing that my path is misguided because a vegetarian diet has its own terrible environmental effects and also indirectly impacts animals due to the use of animal inputs in crops.

But what's the answer, then? Can you tell me succinctly what you are arguing FOR? (And I don't mean in a wishful if-I-ran-the-world's-food-supply kind of way, but in a practical recommendation, easily implemented by most people right nowl, for how you would want people eat? Just curious.
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elcerritan
My bio is not micro
06:21 PM on 02/26/2012
There's pretty good evidence that inclusion of animals in a bio-diverse agricultural system, including as sources of food, is really the only hope for a sustainable global food supply in the future, particularly in the developing world. This doesn't mean producing animal foods in the industrialized manner that's become the norm in the U.S. since WWII, but actually following the principles of agro-ecology, as discussed in the items below (which are not pie-in-the-sky). This may involve scaling back the level of meat (or other animal product) consumption in some places, that doesn't necessarily entail actual vegetarianism, much less veganism. In fact, reducing the utterly shocking amount of food WASTE that occurs in the U.S. would probably have a bigger impact on the environment and on the global food supply than vegetarianism. Moreover, there's also evidence that properly managed herds of grazing ruminants confer environments BENEFITS, as shown by the work of environmentalist Allan Savory (the vimeo lecture I linked to below is pretty long, but it's eye-opening):

http://www.srfood.org/images/stories/pdf/officialreports/20110308_a-hrc-16-49_agroecology_en.pdf

http://www.acresusa.com/toolbox/reprints/Sept10_Salatin.pdf

http://www.grist.org/industrial-agriculture/2011-03-10-debunking-myth-that-only-industrial-agriculture-can-feed-world

http://vimeo.com/8239427.
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elcerritan
My bio is not micro
06:58 PM on 02/26/2012
Here's another interesting discussion about the global food supply. Although it's focused on veganism, it has application to vegetarianism as well: http://letthemeatmeat.com/post/17760598121/a-vegan-world-means-less-food-for-humans-maybe

Given the limited availability of arable land worldwide compared to land suitable ONLY for grazing, plus the fact that many animals can be raised with FEWER resources than crop cultivation requires, keeping animals in the world food supply may be the ONLY way to "feed the world" in the coming decades.

As for "how [I] would want people to eat," I don't really care how people, individually, eat. People are free to eat or not eat whatever they want, as far as I'm concerned. What I'm interested in is when people make dietary decisions based on what they believe are good health or environmental or ethical grounds, when the bases for their decisions may actually not be well-informed or accurate, and may not actually be feasible or desirable when extrapolated to the the world's population at large. But if a person has an emotional aversion to eating animals or thinks meat or other animal products are "yucky" (which seems to be the attitude some people have), I'm certainly not trying to convince them that they SHOULD eat animal products, but only to show them that they may not be on the environmental or health or ethical high ground they may think they are if they aren't eating meat (or eggs or dairy).
12:28 PM on 02/26/2012
In actuality, oversimplified polemics like "meat bad, vegetables good," are part of the problem, not the solution. By all means, support sustainable agriculture to the full extent that you can, but don't delude yourself that eating or not eating meat has anything to do with it.

If you would eat a meal with non-organic vegetables, you are deluding yourself if you think that causes less harm or suffering than a meal with non-organic meat. And if you eat organic vegetables, you are eating foods grown with animal inputs. Virtually all of the commercially grown plant foods in the world are either grown with animal inputs (organic ag) or toxic and completely unsustainable chemical inputs (industrial ag).

In reality, more than a million creatures can live on a single acre of perennial grassland. When that acre is plowed for rows of the shallow-rooted annuals of plant agriculture, the habitat for those creatures is obliterated, with many of them dying horrific deaths in the process, being ripped apart at the seams and plowed under in the process, and the microorganisms that the entire ecosystem depends on are obliterated through oxidization.

Conversely, if that same acre was used for pasturing ruminants, the health of the soil can actually improve in the process, resulting in a significant net gain of life.

Animals are absolutely essential to every major form of sustainable agriculture, and there is no bigger threat to the planet than vegan monocrops.
12:56 PM on 02/26/2012
I am truly glad to see that Bettina is putting real thought into these issues, and making an earnest effort not to reduce everything to a simple "meat bad, vegetables good" polemic. I think though, that if you take more time to learn about agriculture, you will quickly be disabused of the notion that industrial plant ag causes any less suffering than industrial animal ag, and of the notion that industrial vs organic is always simple.
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bikefolder32
My micro bio is an honor student.
06:15 PM on 02/26/2012
Just one point - if by "animal inputs" you mean animal waste - I don't see why that's a check-mark against organic vegetable growth. It's not the recycling of waste that presents an issue for vegeterians.
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elcerritan
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06:24 PM on 02/26/2012
Where do you think that "waste" (more like "resource") will come from for organic plant cultivation if animals aren't being raised for food?
10:37 PM on 02/26/2012
Actually bikefolder32, there are many inputs aside from those made from waste, such bonemeal, bloodmeal, and fish emulsion.

There is no known model of animal agriculture where it is even remotely realistic or even sensible to let all of the animals die of old age. Again, animals are essential to every major form of sustainable agriculture, and that means eating them, not running astronomically expensive petting vegetarian zoos where farm animals all die of old age, which by the way, is virtually unheard of in the natural world.

As Joel Salatin and others rightly point out, the very fact that people are now so far removed from the realities of sustainable food production that they seriously think that it would be feasible and desirable for farmers to run petting zoos where all the creatures die of old age, is truly frightening. Among other things, ruminants have male offspring, and that isn't going to change any time soon.
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Bettina Elias Siegel
08:07 AM on 02/26/2012
Thanks to all who have expressed support and provided resources. I do appreciate it. And to Bea Elliot, I admit up front in my post that not imposing this standard on my children may make me somewhat of a hypocrite. But as I tried to also explain in my post, my children's non-humanely-raised-meat-eating is relatively minimal (only in restaurants) and, even if letting them eat that meat makes me a hypocrite, I'm willing to cop to that and let them make their own choices as they grow older rather than impose stringent restrictions on them now. As with all positive changes, be it improving school food, reducing childhood obesity, reducing our environmental impact, etc., I do agree with commenter I-US below, i.e., we can't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
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elcerritan
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02:07 PM on 02/26/2012
In your quest to not make the perfect be the enemy of the good, I recommend that you give some serious consideration to the comments wildisthewind has posted and to the comment that FaunaAndFlora tried to post (which sabelmouse kindly repeated when that perfectly legitimate and non-offensive comment was removed for some mysterious reason). Both FaunaAndFlora and wildisthewind are very knowledgeable about sustainable agriculture and know far more about the realities of food production (as does sabelmouse) than the average person commenting in these discussions.
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FaunaAndFlora
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12:47 AM on 02/29/2012
Thanks for the vote of confidence, my dear friend. ;-)
04:28 AM on 02/26/2012
Vegetarianism will get a lot easier soon. Things are changing, fast. For now, just do what you can, do what's right, and you can't go wrong.

Good luck to you and your family.
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sabelmouse
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07:18 AM on 02/26/2012
it's a lot easier than it was when i started out ca 1976. then it was pretty hard.
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Issaquah79
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12:24 AM on 02/26/2012
Good luck on your journey! I've been a vegetarian and mostly vegan for many years now. The more you explore and understand our food system the more choices you will have to make regarding what you want to support and how far you want to take this. There are so many layers to ethical eating. Don't be overwhelmed just keep learning and do your best!
08:11 PM on 02/25/2012
Hi Bettina,
I came about becoming a semi-vegetarian almost the same as you did. My cat did it, just suddenly realized that they must have souls. Cows, pigs all of them. Especially watching them with their offspring. They love them like we do.
But it is something we must conclude for ourselves. Its was very hard not to eat meat. I loved prime rib, proscuitto, lunchmeat. Haven't had any for 12 years now. I do eat fish occasionally, and chicken very grudgingly, It has not really had a great improvement on my health. I had bypass surgery anyway last year.
So it still boils down to not eating meat because animals
are living things. All I can say is that at least one cow, perhaps, has been saved during my lifetime, because of me.
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elcerritan
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03:53 AM on 02/26/2012
"Especially watching them with their offspring. They love them like we do."

No, actually they don't.
04:35 AM on 02/26/2012
Be true. Don't diminish the word innate just for you.
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sabelmouse
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07:20 AM on 02/26/2012
what about those many [ millions ] of baby mice singing for their mothers and then dying of dehydration and starvation? are they not worth consideration or does it go by size ?
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Bea Elliott
07:49 PM on 02/25/2012
I think it's great that you are questioning long-held beliefs and changing habits accordingly. I'm curious though as you say that you don't want to hold your children to the ethical code you've come to embrace... Would the same be true if your child was found mocking someone who was of another race or handicapped? What if all the kids around them were doing so - And it was socially acceptable? Wouldn't you still expect your kids to follow your beliefs? Why is eating factory farmed meat an exception to those codes you find important?

Finally, on the thought of "humane meat"... The animal may (or may not) be raised under better conditions - In the end their lives are still taken by force. This perpetuates a might makes right attitude. And neither adults nor children ought to see this as a good idea. In the end - No one wants to die... And if we can live healthy and satisfying lives without hurting others - Isn't this the nicest way to thrive?
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sabelmouse
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07:21 AM on 02/26/2012
the same happens to most animals in the wild. their lives are taken by force, one way or another.
07:31 PM on 02/25/2012
Very interesting article.

To answer your question, "Where do I buy meat? Since I'm still buying some meat for my family, and since I no longer ever want to patronize suppliers of factory-farmed meat, what are my options?", you might want to check out the following resources:

www.eatwild.com

www.localharvest.org

Regarding Safran-Foer's comment on humanely produced meat: would you not bother buying organically and sustainably produced fruits and vegetables just because some people assume that a potato is just a potato? Does that assumption on the part of some mean that it's best just not to purchase and eat fruits or vegetables in the first place, lest we create confusion? If not, then why avoid buying humanely and sustainably produced meat just because some people don't understand or care about the difference?

Regarding "scalability", it's precisely the sort of defeatist attitude represented by Safran-Foer's statement that is, in my opinion, the best friend factory farming ever had. If people had taken that attitude 30 years ago regarding waste management, we'd still be sending all our paper, plastic, and aluminum to the landfill.
12:38 PM on 02/25/2012
Mentioning slavery in regards to tomato production, methane and rice production, bananas and deforestation, almonds and California, and so on is simple digression and deflection. Yes, there are problems with crop production but that pales in comparison to those problems produced by the livestock industry. Ms. Elias Siegel's explanation of tikun olam is important here as may be the expression "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."
12:08 PM on 02/26/2012
Actually, quite the opposite is true, as anyone who knows even the slightest thing about agriculture can tell you. In actuality, the problems with animal agriculture are infinitesimal compared to the problems with plant agriculture. A five minute walk through the organic vegetable farm on my land after it was plowed, followed by a five minute walk through some pasture land, would quickly disabuse you of the notion that plant ag harms less living creatures.
12:51 PM on 02/26/2012
Wild, I was clear that there are problems with crop production and said nothing about crop production being without harm.
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Bettina Elias Siegel
11:09 AM on 02/25/2012
Thanks for the comments, all. (BTW Sabelmouse --the Huff Po moderates comments and I never saw Flora and Fauna's comment, so thanks for saving it.)

I agree there is indeed a lot of "willful 'not-knowing' in every aspect of our lives, from the raising of both crops and animals to my typing on this Apple laptop, the purchase of which may have harmed a Chinese worker. It's an inescapable fact of modern life that even the most innocuous actions can have negative, unintended effects.

Short of taking oneself "off the grid", all we can do is prioritize our concerns. By choosing to avoid meat, my meal is not supporting factory farms. I've lessened the environmental impact of modern animal farming. Have I solved other problems, like worker abuse in the farming of my tomato? The water waste from growing it in an arid place? I have not.

In the end, I turn to the Jewish concept of tikun olam (our responsibility to repair the world). We're taught "It is not your task to complete the work, but you are not free to desist from it." In other words, we can't fix every problem but we must do what we can.

As for fish, Lauren, I suppose what I am is a highly selective pescatarian (I've only eaten fish once or twice in restaurants where other options were limited). However, I do think fish will prove to be a crutch that I ease out over time.