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The Love Story of Elizabeth and Her Transman Deen: Meet the Couple

Posted: 11/19/10 09:22 AM ET

Elizabeth

In college, Elizabeth Clark fell in love with a very butch woman, but only a few years later her lover wanted to live as a man.

This posed a dilemma for Elizabeth, because Deen's physical transformation could strip away her queer identity. The girl-girl couple would look like a girl-boy couple.

"It was hard at times," she said. "As he was coming more into himself, I felt like I was losing something... my queerness became invisible to other people."

Elizabeth also abhorred hostility toward butch women, and her dating a butch woman was a way to counter that prejudice. "I was saying that this person is beautiful and not a wrong kind of woman," she said.

2010-11-19-deenandliz.jpg"Transsexual" implies undergoing a physical change from hormones or surgery -- both of which Deen has experienced -- but he prefers to identify himself with the broader term "transgender man" or "transman."

"I'm a man who has a history of living in a female body, and that's a significant part of who I am and how I got here," he said.

Having dated men before, Elizabeth, 31, wasn't anxious about the physical changes that would come after surgery on Deen's upper body. Instead, she was troubled that people would see them as a straight couple.

"For a while I had an urge to go to random people on the streets and tell everyone that we look straight but we're really not," she said.
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Deen, who was sprouting stubble because of the hormone pills he was taking, was afraid that Elizabeth would leave him for changing the things that bonded them.

But leaving wasn't really an option. "It was never a question of being a deal-breaker," said Elizabeth. "I knew we would be together for the rest of our lives."

Deen

Deen, 34, was born as a baby girl to a Muslim couple that left South India and came to the United States in the seventies.

To the dismay of his traditional parents, Deen grew up openly butch but also graduated as valedictorian from high school. Then came the realization of liking women. Deen became depressed, for a while, and dropped out of Columbia University.

2010-11-19-deen2.jpgThe next year or so was consumed by a string of shrinks. The family scene was a mess, with Deen's parents becoming more agitated with the changes in their daughter. "Why are you doing this?" his bewildered parents pleaded. "Even the Americans don't do this."

Time passed. Deen went back to school at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, where he met 21-year-old Elizabeth, who had grown up in West Virginia. They were both auditioning for the same play.

"I liked butch women but I didn't identify as a lesbian," said Elizabeth. "We both had mutual crushes on each other." Three years later, they didn't get married but decided to make a "stay together forever" deal.

Next came a trip to India, which would make Deen more restless. Working with a non-profit that protects sexual minorities, he met a person who happened to be one of the first Indians to get surgery to become a transsexual man. Deen returned to the U.S. confused.

Still dealing with their butch daughter's attraction to women, Deen's parents now had to see him transition from a masculine-looking woman into a normal-looking guy. "There were a lot of tears," he said.

The long discussions and e-mails didn't normalize the situation, and finally Deen had to leave for two years until his parents missed him enough to begin listening and reconciling.

Change

The first major change was switching pronouns for Deen from "she" to "he." From college professors and classmates to Elizabeth, nobody really got the hang of it, and the idea flopped.

2010-11-19-deen1.jpgGradual changes like voice cracking and a fuzzy jaw came with hormone medicines. Having seen her partner struggle in a female form, Elizabeth welcomed Deen getting comfortable in his own skin, but she also recalls thinking, "I am really happy for you, but what does this mean for me?"

And when her partner's breasts disappeared after the top surgery, Elizabeth wasn't surprised, because Deen had been chest-binding for years. "It's not like a woman's breast go away," she said.

A great deal of pondering made Elizabeth question whether bodily changes mattered. "I knew we were going to grow old together and that are bodies would change," she said.

As Elizabeth played with these ideas in her head, the urge to run up to strangers and declare their queerness began to subside.

"In another sense, it was being like a parent and watching a child go through puberty again," she continued. "They're becoming more like who they are meant to be."

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In the next blog entry, we will meet Deen's and Elizabeth's parents and find out what Deen and Elizabeth plan for the future.

 

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Elizabeth In college, Elizabeth Clark fell in love with a very butch woman, but only a few years later her lover wanted to live as a man. This posed a dilemma for Elizabeth, because Deen's phys...
Elizabeth In college, Elizabeth Clark fell in love with a very butch woman, but only a few years later her lover wanted to live as a man. This posed a dilemma for Elizabeth, because Deen's phys...
 
 
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07:16 AM on 11/24/2010
As some1 thats going through gender issues i can understand what he is going through.To live most of your life feeling like u were born the wrong sex its confusing cause when i would look in the mirror or take my shower/baths i knoew the body i have isnt what i feel like in my mind.But i have been lucky to have good friends that support me. As well as a understanding spouse but every1's experiance is different i just started dealing with it after my parents passed but i knew if i didnt i would be miserable till the day i died.
03:27 PM on 11/23/2010
I think their story is a wonderful example of what love really is. In a loving relationship it's the person, the soul, the inner beauty that matters. The outside may change, whether it be weight, hair color or sex, but the person inside remains.

This article just made me feel hopeful.
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eri 68
Hello, hello .. is this thing on?
11:26 AM on 11/22/2010
I can't imagine what it must be like to feel trapped in the wrong body and admire the courage of both Deen and Elizabeth to allow others along for their journey. Their commitment is heartwarming and I hope the very best for them in their life together.

It's wonderful that there are options available to correct nature's misfires but I feel for the many who are in a similar situation and can't afford the transformation. I hope they can find some peace within and the loving support of friends and family to make their lives happy and fulfilled.
04:28 PM on 11/21/2010
It's kind of shocking that even in an article that intends to tell a transman's story sympathetically, the author refers to testosterone PILLS. There is no such thing. Testosterone comes in injection form or on patches. Your mistake reveals a continuing bias towards male-to-female transsexuals, which essentially counteracts the friendly exposure you're trying to generate here.
05:03 PM on 11/21/2010
Actually, testosterone can be given in pill form, but if I understand correctly, that is sometimes avoided due to concerns over potential liver damage.
10:06 PM on 11/20/2010
Thank you Elizabeth and Deen for being open and "brave" to share your story with us.
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rougebaisers
01:26 PM on 11/20/2010
WOW. Love is wonderful.
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janinei
peace and love to all
02:14 PM on 11/20/2010
Indeed it is! Fanned and faved!
12:00 AM on 11/20/2010
What an intriguing, torturous journey. And that might be just between the partners. I wonder if in 5, 10, 15 years how they will feel about each other and their relationship. I can't begin to imagine the emotions you might feel if you were the one watching your partner make this change.
02:38 PM on 11/19/2010
It would bother her because she identifies as a lesbian. She is not attracted to men and thats how she wants to be portrayed to the world. If she is with someone that looks like a man and then says she is a lesbian it would seem like she is lying. Majority of people wouldnt understand and it is a hassle to explain every single time some one asks.
05:28 PM on 11/19/2010
Sorry it's a hassle but thanks for explaining.
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02:00 PM on 11/19/2010
Thanks for posting this article :) It really "normalizes" the queer community and puts faces and emotions out there for people who don't get to usually see it. I look forward to reading more about this adorable couple :)
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eve mahar
02:26 PM on 11/20/2010
Agreed!
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Jazmo
Cause they're hip to the bull and hip to the lies.
01:30 PM on 11/19/2010
Fascinating! Looking forward to hearing the rest from this family.
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11:54 AM on 11/19/2010
Rough, rough, rough, Elizabeth. Very interested in HER transformation; the questions she faced... I couldn't fathom my wife transitioning. It isn't a possibility, she's a soft butch, but I married a woman. I desire women. How did Elizabeth get her head around being with a male? Huh. Well, this is what makes life so wonderful. We're all different.
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way2sunny
01:44 PM on 11/20/2010
The articles mentions she dated men as well -- so I took that to imply she was more bi than lesbian, although queer seems like a better all-purpose word to use. They're a cute couple!
11:46 AM on 11/19/2010
Why does it really bother her that people might think they were straight? Personally I don't go around looking at couples wondering how they identify themselves. If you're gay, great. If you're straight, great.

The way those sentiments in this article are worded it almost seems like Elizabeth has a problem with straight couples.

I don't know, it just felt "off" to me.
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02:26 PM on 11/20/2010
I've been in her position before so I think I know what she means. It isn't at all about being anti-straight. It's about the fact that being gay or queer is part of her identity, and in the past she would walk down the street with her butch girl friend, and people would know she was queer. Now she walks down the street and everyone seems them as a straight couple. It makes her feel invisible. I remember feeling that way and wanting to...I don't know, write it on my forehead or wear big rainbow stickers or something. Kind of like her boy friend wanted his body to match his gender on the inside, she wants her relationship to outwardly match her queerness inside. Does that make any sense?
10:41 AM on 11/22/2010
Makes sense. Thanks.
11:36 AM on 11/21/2010
LOL. Really? thats what you got from this?
10:42 AM on 11/22/2010
Knee jerk reaction? Yes, that's what I got from this initially because that's how it felt to me. Otherwise I thought it was great that Elizabeth loves Deen enough to stay. I was just trying to understand, that's all.