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An All-Electric Vehicle: Up Close and Personal

Posted: 03/21/2012 10:33 am

Crossposted with TheGreenGrok.

Come along on a test drive of the Nissan Leaf.

Ever wonder what one of those all-electric cars feels like when you're behind the wheel? Well, here's your chance. We'll start by getting the lowdown on what it means to be a "zero-emission vehicle" from one of the Energy Department's car specialists. We'll kick the tires, check out the funny plugs and then take the baby for a spin through the streets of Washington, D.C.

(A heads-up for folks in the Durham area who want to test drive a Leaf themselves: today's your chance, courtesy of the Durham City-County Sustainability Office. Follow the links for details and sign-up.)

 

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04:34 PM on 03/27/2012
I am sure looking forward to the wide spread use of all-electric vehicles to bridge the gap I purchased a hybrid vehicle, this is a description I wrote on the hybrid.

The following will explain in fairly simple terms how the hybrid car may be more fuel efficient:
At a very simplified level a hybrid like the Prius is using both a gasoline engine and an electric motor to move the car. Energy normal wasted as heat during braking is used to recharge batteries that power the electric motor which helps move the car. The switching between gas and electric is all done by computer control.

The gasoline engine operates in a more efficient manner in a hybrid car. With the help of the electric motor it can operate at a more efficient rpm and is completely shut off much of the time. The gasoline engine can be sized smaller which is more fuel efficient because the electric motor is available to help with peak demand.

Actual gas mileage that you will obtain is dependent on many variables but in general hybrid cars will do better for city driving with the frequent starts, stops and periods of idling. Idling can be a rather big waste of fuel and there are some non-hybrid gas cars that start and stop the engine when idling. The real time data provided on the dashboard of the hybrid car gives feedback to train you to drive in a more fuel efficient manner.
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01:37 AM on 03/24/2012
In Europe, there are cheaper EVs available than what is available here in the States.

http://www.treehugger.com/cars/cheapest-new-cars-in-norway-are-electric.html

These cheap EVs are not very speedy (top speed about 45 mph), and their range isn't great (about 25 miles), but they are good for city driving in much of Europe. I do not know why they are not available in this country. If they got tax credits similar to the Volt and the Leaf, they would be quite affordable.
07:58 PM on 03/29/2012
Simple, Europe doesn't have the same amount of sub-urban sprawl that we do, so the need for range and speed aren't exactly there. Additionally in urban areas that the car would be well suited to, mass transit in a lot of cities does quite a bit to provide the transportation needs. A small EV like that is best suited to small villages where public transport doesn't really exist, and everything is relatively compact. We don't really do that in the states...
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DenverBigDaddy
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06:54 AM on 03/22/2012
Until the battery capacity is significantly improved, I don't see much of a market.
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grappler1987
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09:26 PM on 03/22/2012
Rich folks like the toys. Hopefully they can jump start this market.
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12:52 AM on 03/23/2012
Or pent up demand isn't currently being tapped and supported with smart policy.

Battery capacity really isn't an issue for most people. Average commute is 15 miles for 68% of population with only 11% reporting more than 30 mile commute.

http://www.bts.gov/publications/omnistats/volume_03_issue_04/html/entire.html

Sensible policy would include subsidies funded by taxing oil company profits for two programs.

First, government loans administered by local energy providers essentially offering zero-interest loans to all interested homeowners who seek to have roof mount solar panel installation. Monthly payments could be same as typical electric payment and payoff in roughly ten years with 25-30 years of FREE energy production after payoff. Additional panels added would easily work the same way providing sufficient energy to power electric cars. Panels coexist with electrical grid -- no batteries for home required.

Another plan to service batteries is typical drive through service stations, where batteries are quickly replaced for new fully charged batteries for fee...just like now, when paying for gas and service stations are franchised.

Second, temporary subsidies for American made electric cars like Nissan Leaf would spur sales spurring a technology race -- including increased battery range and life.

Benefit: Reduced dependence on foreign oil, reduced balance of trade, massively reduced CO2 emission, and after loan payoff -- FREE energy production both for home and car. What could be more beneficial? And it's technologically feasible...yesterday!
08:12 PM on 03/29/2012
The biggest problem with battery swaps is you need to basically have the entire global auto industry create a standard battery pack. Or at most 3 different packs. This is not feasible at best. Coordination aside, many different vehicles will have different power needs, which would seem to make this impossible. The more ideal solution is for someone to create technology that would reduce charging times to < 1 hour and then license that out.
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grappler1987
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01:58 AM on 03/22/2012
I hope the Leaf and Volt do well. Diversifying away from oil will pay huge benefits.
01:08 PM on 03/23/2012
Both vehicles sales seem to be held back by the production numbers. The demand seems to be there, even for the Volt, which is kind of expensive for what you get. That's a good sign.
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grappler1987
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03:03 PM on 03/23/2012
Yeah, too expensive for me. I generally buy used cars in the $15K range. But that is just me.
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10:38 PM on 03/25/2012
leaf is doing well, 100k sold.
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grappler1987
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01:52 AM on 03/26/2012
Hope they hit 1 million quickly.
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09:02 PM on 03/21/2012
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02:38 PM on 03/21/2012
A visit to a Nissan dealership which has a Leaf will be able to answer this question quite easily.