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Keystone XL: Time for the Senate to Show Some Courage

Posted: 02/11/2012 1:49 pm

At least for now, the battle over the Keystone Pipeline -- the most visible environmental cause in many years -- has moved from the scarred boreal forest of Alberta and the Sand Hills of Nebraska to the halls of Congress. Or rather, it's moved to send button on your email application, because that's the best way we've got right now to stiffen the spines of our Senators.

Beginning at noon on Monday, the progressive community will focus for 24 solid hours on the Keystone battle. We'll try to generate half a million emails to the Senate -- the most concentrated burst of environmental advocacy this millennium. We'll know if it works if the Democrats who control the chamber do one simple thing: back their president.

Barack Obama did the brave thing. He stood up to the American Petroleum Institute (a.k.a. big oil) and their explicit threat to exact 'huge political consequences' unless he granted Keystone an immediate permit. And the GOP did the expected thing -- all along they've voted with near unanimity to speed up the pipeline. That's par for the course from a party awash in oily money -- a party whose leaders vie to denounce global warming as a hoax, and whose current frontrunner believes that thanks to the EPA Americans are living through 'a reign of environmental terror.'

But the Senate is in the hands of a Democratic majority, whose leader Harry Reid has said the right things about Keystone -- namely that the tarsands it connects to are an "unsustainable supply of dirty and polluting oil." These Democrats know that the biggest labor unions in the country are backing the president, and they know that every environmental group is firm in its opposition, from the corporate friendly Environmental Defense Fund to the corporate unfriendly Rainforest Action Network. And yet these Senators still wobble -- we keep hearing rumors that one or another of them will cut a deal with the oil industry.

In fact, one already has. Joe Manchin, of West Virginia, has said he'll vote for Keystone. And what do you know -- he's taken more money from the fossil fuel industry than any other Democrat in the chamber. Many of the rest of the Democrats have taken industry money too, but usually far less than the Republicans. My guess is that they actually want to do the right thing, but they're scared -- scared that the oil industry will run ads against them at election time, scared that no one will come to their defense. In a way it's kind of sad to see Senators living in fear, but that's how it works.

And so to the keyboards. We've been to jail, we've marched on Washington; this week it's pixels and keystrokes. This electronic blitz is an effort to show Congress that there's support out there for doing the right thing -- that the American people know the stakes and that they want to see a little bit of the president's courage on this issue reflected in the Senate. This Congress is clearly not going to solve global warming -- no one expects Harry Reid to work miracles, converting implacable Republican opponents. But they can clearly hold the line if they want to. Maybe a letter or two -- or half a million all at once -- will nerve them up.

 

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At least for now, the battle over the Keystone Pipeline -- the most visible environmental cause in many years -- has moved from the scarred boreal forest of Alberta and the Sand Hills of Nebraska to t...
At least for now, the battle over the Keystone Pipeline -- the most visible environmental cause in many years -- has moved from the scarred boreal forest of Alberta and the Sand Hills of Nebraska to t...
 
 
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Karen Pottruff
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05:47 PM on 02/14/2012
I believe the Keystone pipeline should go through with the utmost consideration being given to the preservation of wildlife and the land that it traverses.
11:39 PM on 02/27/2012
What are your reasons? It is going to benefit Big Oil. Koch wants to refine it & it will be exported. Canada needs it because their country has rejected plans to have pipelines going East or West so it can shipped out. (Big Oil gets SO much government support in U.S. already)

Look up the info on the New Keystone I pipeline & the leaks. The one in ND was 22,000 gallons. The farmer saw it spewing like 60 ft. in the air at the pump station. Obviously, TransCanada's people were unaware there was a leak. What if he hadn't seen it -- then how much toxic tar sand oil would have leaked? This is a New pipeline! This farmer & the community are Not for Keystone XL - gee, I wonder why? TransCanada does not have a good reputation with the environment. There have been other leaks on this pipeline, too. BY THE WAY--Koch wants this BAD! They're spending a Min. of $100 Million to oust Obama. They want No EPA & Obama does. They will be cutting supply so YOUR gas will cost alot---in hopes that will put Their GOP in as POTUS! More info: "AlecExposed.org" on their philosophies / agenda.
10:47 PM on 02/28/2012
I am glad that I get to respond to your statements again. Oil is important to you and me and the rest of the citizens. I find it hard to understand that you are against oil companies. They play an important role in the success of the US economy. You feel that they are robbing you blind. Are you aware that oil and gas make 6 cents per dollar on sales, all mfg makes 9 cents, electrical and appliances make 12 cents, beverage and tobacco make 20 cents computers and associated make 21 cents and drugs and medicine make 22 cents. These are legitimate industries.What does G. Soros make by betting on the value of the US dollar? Do just have a bias?
11:07 PM on 02/28/2012
This is my second statement regarding some of your concerns. The President could have agreed with a conditional go ahead with the Keystone project with the secondary analysis of safety by environmentalists. He chose not to to do this and resulted in a significant delay of any decision. The result is a loss of jobs and maybe a loss of the pipeline altogether. He also now states that all of the above is his policy on getting the US energy policy moving again after 3 years of stonewalling. You may remember that all of the above was the Republican policy many years ago. The problem now is that all of the above doesn't mean the same thing to the President as to the republicans. Its similar to the war on terror is now a overseas contingency operation. In other words, he really isn't saying that its all of the above on energy production. Its really about doing only those projects that suit his agenda. We know that means more of the same in terms of restricting existing energies and heavily subsidizing his green energies.
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Robert Lee Harrington
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05:38 PM on 02/14/2012
Final count: 781,000+ messages in 24 hours.

Thank you, to everyone who sent a message, sent an email to friends or shared a link.

You're amazing.
08:56 PM on 02/27/2012
Wow - democracy in Action!
11:50 AM on 02/14/2012
By not doing the Keystone Pipeline, who do you think it helps the most? Warren Buffet! It helps his railroad companies! This has nothing to do with enviromental issues. Have you seen how many pipelines there are going thru the center of the US? Look it up. Warren and Barak are joined at the hip! Get real!
01:16 PM on 02/14/2012
Get real? How can anyone take that seriously from someone obviously living in an alternate reality? You can't even spell the President's name correctly!

Warren Buffet owns SHIPPING railroads, not passenger railroads. Oil is not transported via rail. So you think not building the pipeline is going to force everyone into riding Amtrak? Get real!

You ignore the actual billionaires who stand to benefit the most from the pipeline being built (the ones coincidentally who have the deep pockets to fund all the pipeline propaganda) and instead focus on the right-wing boogie man of Buffet. I'm surprised you didn't claim that it was a Soros plot!
02:57 PM on 02/14/2012
Guess you don't do your homework very well, now do you? Look up Yahoo Finance and the call letters, CSX and you'll find that railroad owned by Buffet transports oil! Also, do your homework and look up Burlington Northern Railroad, also owned by Buffet and it says they transport petroleum products, too! Now, maybe I didn't spell Obama's name correctly, but I do my homework. And I do know there are only 50 states, not 57, like Obama!! So get your facts straight before you start spouting off things you know nothing about!!
03:26 PM on 02/14/2012
Virginia is talking about railroads shipping the oil instead of using pipelines...surely you knew what those tanks on trains were for?
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Christian Howell
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01:27 PM on 02/14/2012
Google Ogallala Aquifer and then step away from the crack pipe. Wait, I'll save you the trouble. It's a shame that Americans glamorized and embraced crime and corruption so long they wouldn't know honesty if it slapped them around on the internet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogallala_Aquifer
07:28 PM on 02/14/2012
Dude, get some facts. There is ALREADY 25,000 miles of oil pipeline crossing the Ogallala Acquifer...with NO negative effects. Another 500 miles is gonna kill ya? Geez, get a life.
10:46 PM on 02/27/2012
F&F ... I'll add: idolizing the Rich, Successful & Powerful & their glamorous lifestyles--- houses, cars, yachts, jets, multiple homes, etc. Some of whom will be More Than Happy to use you as they advance Their agenda -- like the Keystone XL---that will make them richer & More powerful, while cutting more & more services to the 99%! Because ... they've got Soooo much power in the government already!

People must check out the spills of Keystone I that is up & running as far as Oklahoma. The largest spill in ND spewed 22,000 gallons of tar sands oil, & the pipeline is New! This oil is highly corrosive. How many spills will occur as the pipe, valves, etc., deteriorate? The farmer & community in ND are NOT in support of Keystone XL after their spill & all it entailed. I have first account information in that area. (this spill occurred at the pumping station above ground. How many leaks will be small, yet continuous, underground & not be known about for a long, long time?)

AlecExposed.org ... good facts about the power of Corporations (Koch is on the executive board) AND the Politicians under their influence.
10:26 AM on 02/14/2012
Sorry, but senators as all politicians need money from the parasites who want to ruin the planet for profit and kill people all over the world to control what's left of fossil fules for elections. We have no government of the people fopor the people. We have a government of the rich FOR the rich. And nothing short of a revolution of some kind will change that.
11:20 PM on 02/27/2012
F&F ... Agree. Please tell others to see "AlecExposed.org"

ALEC is a Powerful organization. Koch on executive board. The group is Corporations / Politicians from the TeaParty / newer GOP. I don't think any other party. They've gained alot of power. The GOP candidates are talking the same philosophies / agenda. No FDA, EPA !, etc.

If you know other good sites for people to see, post them please. Sooo many 99%ers are believing an ILLUSION that low taxes is ALL good. They don't realize the safety nets will go, along with Medicare, EPA, FDA, etc., AND the voice of the 99% will be silenced.
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Khadijah Abdu-Salaam
09:42 AM on 02/14/2012
NathanOJ: NOTE THIS LIMPID, WEAK THINKING.

"Just because you find it impossible to build a cleaner energy, doesn't mean the rest of us can't do it. Just because you can't figure out how to build a clean energy economy doesn't mean that it's not possible."

This is a STRAW MAN ARGUMENT, where one assumes the position of another based on insufficient data and attacks the ASSUMPTION, rather than the actual stated position of the other.

The ASSUMPTION here is that support for Keystone NECESSARILY means that the supporter opposes clean energy. This is IRRATIONAL, POLITICALLY DRIVEN POSITIONING, and is NOT RATIONAL.

In fact, I quite logically SUPPORT BOTH. Denying ourselves needed energy will not accelerate the movement to clean energy, and we get jobs in the process by implementing a plan which the US Government has already deemed to be safe. Since no reasonable person would impede such a project, the resistance must come from IDEOLOGY; ideology has no interest group other than itself -- it certainly doesn't benefit the American People, particularly in this case.

Back to your Nintendo, Nathan. You're out of your league.
10:24 AM on 02/14/2012
What utter BS.

Someone who supports the massive and rising misuse of fossil fuels AUTOMATICALLY discards the investment into green energy. Because if You take what money there is and put it into building up oil production and transportation the money is gone. There is nothing left to even try to research better use of resources and cleaner energy.

It is not the assumption that anyone who supports Keystone and with it all the costs and destruction inherent in Keystone is against clean energy that is silly. It is YOUR assumption that we can have both - Keystone AND cleaner energy - that is completely free of anything resembling reality.
11:52 PM on 02/14/2012
What utter BS. Taking the money and putting it into existing energy doesn't affect the amount left to research green energy at all. The oil companies know that at some future date that oil will become less available. The oil companies are not stupid. They are constantly researching ways to replace conventional oil. They are doing this without the government help because they want to insure their business. Wake up. The priority today is to create jobs and to get the economy going again. The Keystone project was a good way to create jobs and would do this without Obama's stimulus plans and wouldn't cost the taxpayer anything. The main reason the environmentalists do not want oil is that they still believe that oil and CO2 is the cause of global warming. This has not been proven. There are many many scientists that do not buy into the IPPC agenda. The IPPC and Al Gore have been caught in faulty science. Its sad that these people do not admit it.
11:48 AM on 02/14/2012
What a load of ignorance. As usual, republicans ignore all science on the table.

You act like the stranglehold that big oil has on US politics is of no real consequence.

You act like releasing an entirely new massive source of carbon into the atmosphere is of no consequence.

You act like there have been no scientific studies that show that this project will destroy more jobs than it creates.

You act like there have been no Canadian studies that show that this project will drive up the cost of energy in Canada and the US, it's one of the clearly stated reasons this pipeline is wanted according to industry insiders.

Worst of all, you act like what the MAJORITY of Americans and Canadians want, which is for this pipeline to never be built, is irrelevant, and that's the par for the course republican/conservative disdain for democracy and majority rule.

When facts are ignored in favor of false promises by the most corrupt, evil, manipulative industry on the planet, THATwww.huffingtonpost.comur position is disgraceful.
07:42 PM on 02/14/2012
Please provide ANY sources for the ridiculous claims you make in this post. Beyond bizarre.
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MoMick
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10:49 PM on 02/13/2012
Keystone XL is designed to carry some of the filthiest crude oil from Canada through the US midwest and over its aquifers to export terminals in the Gulf coast for sale to the Chinese. The US Gulf refineries are running at or above design capacity and, even if they weren't, would have to undergo major mods to handle the garbage tar-sands oil. Besides, the US is currently exporting gasoline and other light distillates. The only positive side of the pipeline is a few hundred temporary construction jobs.
10:39 PM on 02/13/2012
Yes, you are right, but what about all these coal trucks driving up and down the road? Could a pipeline be worse? The West is filling up with people, my little town included. What are we going to do? The air is the most important of all in my mind. Cathy Bagley, Torrey, Utah
03:00 AM on 02/14/2012
One word. Renewable. Don't let the pro-pollution lobby impose their limitations on you. The only way is the clean energy way. Wind, wave, solar, solar towers, geothermal, micro-hydro, bio-fuels.

Don't let the pro-pollution lobby impose their limited ideas on you. Not only is it possible to have a clean energy economy, it's better, it's cheaper, it's smarter. Everything about a clean energy economy is better than a polluting energy economy.
07:45 PM on 02/14/2012
Nathan, you have NO IDEA what you're talking about. Alternative energy is ridiculously expensive. Without massive gov't subsidies, it would die. There are a few companies which are doing some good work where alternative energy makes sense, but for the most part it's simply not economic.

One of the few I've found you can see here www.cadmusconstruction.com
01:30 AM on 02/28/2012
The water & soil is critical, too. The toxic tarry sand oil from Keystone I has already leaked in more than 1 state. The largest, 22,000 gal. in ND. That community is no longer in favor of Keystone XL. This is a New pipeline. TransCanada has a bad environmental record. Koch (Big Oil) also does, & they would refine it in the Gulf & Export it. Why risk the environment for 2 companies that don't Respect the landowners, the citizens, the EPA, etc. Did you know Many in the GOP want to eliminate the EPA? Koch Bros. do, too! Read some more replies to poster's posts in the last 2 wks. Also: to learn more about Koch, the Keystone XL, & the GOP support Go To:
"AlecExposed.org"
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Khadijah Abdu-Salaam
10:36 PM on 02/13/2012
Here;s the problem:

"At least for now, the battle over the Keystone Pipeline -- the most visible environmental cause in many years -- has moved from the scarred boreal forest of Alberta and the Sand Hills of Nebraska to the halls of Congress"

The pipeline is not a "cause". It's jobs, it's needed energy, it's national security, it's independence.

One easily envisions others like this McKibben advancing from games on their Nintendos to games in the political realm. Nothing is real to them, nothing impacts people, nothing really matters. They are nihilists, pretending that the care about the environment (in this case), but in reality, all they "care" about is WINNING the game against their foes, which they dehumanize by calling them "conservatives" (or other, more insulting imagined terms) but which are actually none other but "American Citizens."

Go ahead, Bill. Win your game. We, the people, are getting used to losing, as the political games continue.
03:14 AM on 02/14/2012
Please stop imposing your profoundly ignorant and pathetically limited ideas of what is possible on the rest of us. Just because you find it impossible to build a cleaner energy, doesn't mean the rest of us can't do it. Just because you can't figure out how to build a clean energy economy doesn't mean that it's not possible.

Just because you find it necessary to pollute for profit doesn't mean everyone else is just going to follow along.

The Keystone Pipeline is a national security threat. It's a threat to human health. It's a threat to energy independence. An area of what was once pristine wilderness will be utterly destroyed from tar sands oil extraction. How much bio-fuel could be grown on an area the size of England, and grown again, year after year. 60 billion gallons per year of bio-fuel gasoline a year, that's how much.

Using fossil fuel pollutes. Using renewable energy does not.

If you're right, and it's only about winning, then guess what? You lose. You don't lose because the other side cheated, or is more politically savvy than you. You lose because your ideas are dumb. Your energy pollutes. Your ideas are not winning ideas. They are bad polluting ideas. Bad ideas lose. Good ideas win.

Is it really any surprise that your ideas are as polluted as your choice of energy? No, not really.
11:27 AM on 02/14/2012
Hi,
I want to respond to your statement about jobs, national security and independence.

While there are estimates of lots of jobs, there are also estimates of very few permanent jobs.
Primary here is your statement about national security. You are under the delusion that tar sand oil from Canada will stay in America and keep us from foreign oil. This is a wrong assumption. The tar sand oill is slated to be refined in Texas (more nasty pollution for Texas) and then it is on its way to China, or Australia or any and every other country that wants to purchase it.

There will be no independence for the American people. Yes the oil companies, the pipeline companies and the refining companies can add billions to their coffers, but it will not help the American people one whit.

I recommend doing some research from other sources than Fox News and the Koch Brothers pipeline websites. This issue is not about screaming at liberals or conservatives, it is about protecting the future of the planet and the creatures who live on it, mainly us.
07:49 PM on 02/14/2012
What a foolish post. You said it yourself, "or any and every other country that wants to purchase it." What, the US can't purchase it for use here? And if we buy it vs oil from Venezuela or the middle east (why wouldn't we?) the money stays in our economy as well.

I recommend you take a basic econ course. You're living in fantasyland.
01:35 AM on 02/28/2012
F&F ... The U.S. already exports, also.
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OLJW00
right is right
10:34 PM on 02/13/2012
Not to fret...the Keystone Pipeline will ultimately be built.
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lw1
Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!
12:14 AM on 02/14/2012
Are you volunteering your backyard?
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OLJW00
right is right
01:23 AM on 02/14/2012
Nope - just saying it will be built.
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OLJW00
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12:19 PM on 02/14/2012
Especially with $5 Gas coming our this summer. Actions like striking down the pipeline will cause Obama to lose 10% of his approval numbers as people know that the cost is indeed based on worldwide supplies and refining.

Not to worry - he won't be President for but a few more months.
09:53 PM on 02/13/2012
When the price of gas goes to $4.50 a gallon, President Obama is going to be sorry he cancelled the Keystone pipeline. It is obvious that this President does not care about the construction workers or the poor people in this Country who need gas at a reasonable price to get to work. He will not be happy until he destroys this Country oil production. The pipeline was going to transport oil from Canada and North Dakota to be refined in the Gulf States. He will not allow any new refineries to be built in America, thus the need for a pipeline.
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lw1
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12:18 AM on 02/14/2012
Gas made from this crud would be more expensive. And why would the chinese pay extra to refine it here? For the most part ocean going tankers carry crude and that is the point of the pipeline; to take this crud to a big ocean port.
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Robert Lee Harrington
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01:58 PM on 02/14/2012
"Enbridge Northern Gateway" is for China. Canadian Tar sand for China would be pumped through the last great temperate rainforest to Katimat, BC. and loaded on Tankers to China.

Keystone XL sends Tar sand to the Gulf Coast refineries to be made into diesel fuel and loaded on ocean going Tankers for Tax Free Export to Europe and Latin America.

None of these projects are in the interest of the USA, and none will lower gas prices or increase our security or create real lasting jobs for US. Both are likely to spill and will accelerate global climate change.

http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/11/10/366171/valero-poised-to-export-keystone-xl-crude-tax-free/

http://priceofoil.org/2011/08/31/report-exporting-energy-security-keystone-xl-exposed/

http://www.northerngateway.ca/project-details/route-map/

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/08/canada-rainforest/barcott-text
11:34 AM on 02/14/2012
We need gas prices to get higher. Not that I am looking forward to this on a personal level, but it is the only way Americans will focus on an alternative. Oil & gas subsidies are keeping the prices artificially low and keeping us dependent on them. Personally I'd prefer higher gas prices than higher food prices if the mid-west's Ogallala aquifer becomes contaminated.
12:16 AM on 02/15/2012
What are you stating? You are in step with Obama. The main priority today is jobs. Why don't we have them but China does? Their costs are cheaper. We are not going to make labor costs cheaper but to compete we must address the other costs of producing a product. That includes having a low cost of energy. High energy costs hurt the poor and middle class the most since energy is a major portion of our budgets. Wake up! What your saying that with higher energy costs, your in favor of more government dependence in terms of food stamps and energy assistance. Your just perpetuating Obama's plan for a European socialist system. Higher oil and gas prices means that the farmers will need higher prices for their food products. It will increase the cost of all products that are transported in the US and increase the cost of shipping products to foreign countries. Heaven help us if Obama is elected for a second term. We are already headed to a fiscal problem like Greece.
08:53 PM on 02/13/2012
When gasoline gets up between $4 and $5 a gallon, Obama will be deeply sorry he blocked the Keystone Pipeline. Republican leaders ought to roast him without mercy for holding back North American energy.

If they make the argument effectively and persistently, Obama will be paying the high gas prices like the rest of his, when he starts driving his private car again after the 2012 election.
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Robert Lee Harrington
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05:41 PM on 02/14/2012
Three Words....Strategic Petroleum Reserve
03:05 AM on 02/28/2012
OR ... people can Totally Reject the idea of the Keystone XL because of Koch limiting supply, & manipulating the market. They want Obama & the EPA out. A 'new' GOPer in. They want the Gas Price to hurt the 99% & blame it on Obama. MANY of us know the game, though! Koch (wants to refine the oil) does not care At All if they hurt the 99%. Maybe once the price is over $5 they'll decide to keep it there -- more Profits. (I doubt Obama is worried about paying $5 for gas. He & Michelle are Both attornies. Did you see what they gave to charity last yr.?)

IF you're not a paid poster & want to know what the GOP's agenda is, which is Against the 99%, please check out ""AlecExposed.org"". Even if you're paid---you may want to know.
08:27 PM on 02/13/2012
Will the pipeline require goverment subsidy ?

as to "Sustainability" well that is for people (investors) who are putting thier money up.

If it has no goverment subsidy, well then that is for the investors to decide sustainability.
08:24 PM on 02/13/2012
Why not build refineries in North Dakota and refine the oil there. No Pipeline, still get construction jobs, boost employment in ND. Seems like a win win.
09:41 PM on 02/13/2012
Because Obama and the Dems won't let anyone build any new refineries, either.In fact, no new refineries have been built in the US since the1970's thanks to Dems and their environmental purse strings.
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MoMick
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10:52 PM on 02/13/2012
GW didn't even attempt to broach the topic. The oil boys don't want new refineries; they're making money hand-over-fist with what they've got.
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Christian Howell
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01:56 PM on 02/14/2012
They have greenlit the first nuclear reactor in decades which can replace MILLIONS of gallons of oil.
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lw1
Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!
12:20 AM on 02/14/2012
The chinese don't want to pay us to refine this crap, they can do it there cheaper. They just want a big seaport to pick it up at. It won't do squat good for the USA.
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07:38 PM on 02/13/2012
http://priceofoil.org/2012/02/08/keystone-xl-benefits-from-taxpayer-subsidies/

If you believe the lies you are hearing from oil companies and the Repubicans about Keystone
you are in worse shape than you think.
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06:53 PM on 02/13/2012
The president's choice is to not build the pipeline or build it. If he doesn't build and gasoline stays over four bucks by November he is out. Perception is reality! To those on the left. Remember the president is a politician first and foremost. He will go where he thinks he can get the most votes.
03:28 AM on 02/28/2012
Many of us Know the game. Koch manipulating the market, & lowering the supply. Result: higher gas prices. Maybe once the prices get higher they'll feel the consequence for screwing over the 99% with higher gas prices. Meaning - voters will support Obama Even More.

It's not like it doesn't take some time to build the XL all the way to the Gulf. If Koch gets their GOP Prez., they can eliminate the EPA and get the Keystone XL underway. What's to stop them? Without an EPA to evaluate the project? Or enforce spill clean up? Is this the small government you would agree with. I wouldn't.