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Bill Scher

Posted: October 28, 2010 12:39 PM

Jon Stewart Is Wrong

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Jon Stewart presumably came to DC to rally the sane against Glenn Beck's minions and 9/11 Truthers. But instead of amplifying that message in The Daily Show interview with President Obama yesterday, Stewart opted to focus on the most weak and superficial criticisms of the President, and refused to budge when those criticisms were ably addressed.

In our democracy, Stewart has every right to ask the President critical questions. He has every right to give disrespectful snarky retorts to the President's answers. He also has the right to be wrong.

Stewart's most significantly wrong comment was to say that the health care reform law was "timid."

There are certainly policy criticisms one could make about the bill. But timid?

Legislation that will provide near universal coverage by making it a legal obligation for most Americans to take personal responsibility to purchase coverage? Billions in subsidies to help low-income Americans by insurance? Major cost control reforms to save $500 billion in Medicare spending?

All politically risky provisions that have opened Democrats up to searing attack ads and right-wing legal challenges. All provisions that led to insane reactions from the Tea Party, which prompted Stewart to hold his rally in the first place.

That is the opposite of timid.

When pressed, Stewart revised his comment to say t what was timid was "how" the bill got passed, that President Obama chose to negotiate compromises with the insurance industry instead of opposing it totally.

Now, there are two ways to view the White House's negotiations with insurers: as a mistake that weakened the final bill, or as necessary to limit opposition and get a final bill that still included major reforms.

(The insurance industry did not formally back the final bill, but neither did it run a scorched earth campaign to kill the bill as it did in 1994.)

But how is it timid to have reached across the breach, found common ground between progressive reformers and industry? It involved much political risk, damaged his relationship with members of his own coalition, and didn't yield much gratitude from Corporate America either.

That is not to say it would have been more timid to outright opposite the industry and make the lack of public insurance option worthy of a presidential veto. Obviously there would be great political risk in that stance too, because it may have meant not having any comprehensive bill after telling the public to judge his presidency whether or not he got it done.

The point is: to pursue comprehensive health care reform at all was courageous.

Most of President Obama's own advisers urged him not to do comprehensive health care, set the bar lower, maybe push a plank or two and call it a day.

To duck the issue would have been timidity. That would have been letting problems fester because tackling them requires political risks. That would have been business as usual.

Tuesday's election presents us with a choice. Do we want Congress to keep solving problems, or do we want a Congress to give up trying?

Actually trying to solve big problems is essential for America to be vibrant once again, but it invariably leaves some dissatisfied.

It even can make the normally sane, like Jon Stewart, lose all perspective and cling to overly simplistic knee-jerk arguments.

The very kind of arguments Saturday's rally was suppose to challenge, even if Stewart's volume is, in his words, taken down a notch.

Originally posted at OurFuture.org

 
 
 

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southingtonian
"I'm a Capricorn and you can't make me do sh*t.."
07:07 AM on 11/09/2010
"Jon Stewart presumably came to DC to rally the sane against Glenn Beck's minions and 9/11 Truthers."
Boy, did you miss the point. It wasn't AGAINSTanyone; it was FOR SANITY. Confrontationism is a baaad habit.
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tnunnster
Peace Geek
11:14 AM on 10/31/2010
How can Stewart be "wrong"? He's expressing his opinion, not stating facts. You may disagree with his opinion, but that doesn't make him "wrong". Please straighten out the language.
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pinellas
10:21 AM on 10/29/2010
Thank you Bill, for bringing the sanity! The sour grapes comments below seem to represent the lack of awareness of the workings of our government - especially the workings of our government lately. This lack of real education & critical thinking skills has become too much a given in our present US culture.

Our president was spot on in calling out those who only focus on the things we didn't get, rather than what we did.

"Nattering nabobs of negativism"...?
02:53 PM on 10/29/2010
Sadly, I think you too are missing the point here. This isn't merely a handful of "sour grapes" you've encountered. Chances are if the effort had been done right the Dems would be cruising comfortably to maintaining their majorities in Congress right now. The problem is not that we "didn't get everything we wanted"; we barely got a few crumbs that were touted as real reform, and if we can't call out cowardice and corporate corruption when those on our own side commit it, we're no better than the brainless twits of the 'tea party' who truly ARE lacking in "real education and critical thinking skills". The president will be put on-the-spot shortly, though I still don't think he'll get the message. Chances are he'll continue to attribute his losses to "overly high expectations", which is why this election cake was baked when he came out of the box swinging last month - at his own base (first). And BTW, many of us got nada, other than a "kinder, gentler" echo of the previous administration. Jon Stewart was spot-on, and said more politely what many of us feel more viscerally.
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pinellas
10:20 AM on 10/30/2010
I'm really curious; what did you expect to 'get' by now, exactly?

Are you aware of all the good legislation that has been passed - despite relentless opposition by GOP? Are you aware of how (almost) hopelessly snarled up the former administration's mess really is?
& BTW, 'they did it wrong' armchair quarterbacking over our current political mess, along w/ hypersensitive overreactions to perceived slights is terribly counterproductive, not to mention rather juvenile.
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Leah Watts
06:16 PM on 10/28/2010
Was this the moment when Stewart jumped the shark? Odd, if it were, because since his September return, the most vociferous of Obama's supporters amongst the fundit satirists has been, oddly, Bill Maher, exhorting people to vote and defending Obama's policies to the hilt (after spending more than a year wantonly criticizing them). Could it be that Maher's seen the political pragmatist's light and Stewart's got it wrong in this instance?
05:06 PM on 10/28/2010
I wish you activist types could at least put some cogent analysis into your propaganda.
I wouldn't mind comprehending your underlying philosophy of governance if you could lay one out.
Instead this is the typical and very boring repetition of talking points, half-truths and shady context-less statistics, and it reminds me of a Pravda or Voice of America, instead of grassroots punditry.
04:33 PM on 10/28/2010
I don't believe he was referring to the bill itself as timid, but in regards to the political process of passing the bill. The President ran on a platform of "change" in Washington, but the passage of this and other legislation was a bit timid. So this article just seems to be using an out of context excerpt to argue an unrelated point.
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Bill Scher
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07:33 PM on 10/28/2010
Stewart actually made both arguments, that the bill was timid on substance and on process, and I addressed both arguments above.
01:19 AM on 10/29/2010
"you ran with such (if I may) "audacity" — so much of what you said was, "great leaders lead in a time of opportunity," "we're the ones we're looking for" — yet legislatively it has felt timid at times. I'm not even sure at times what you want out of a healthcare bill"
-Stewart
I'm not seeing it. Stewart has actually made your very argument on the show many times before.
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ClintBMD
Now where did I leave that Micro-bio again?
04:11 PM on 10/28/2010
"by making it a legal obligation for most Americans to take personal responsibility to purchase coverage?" Candidate Obama ridiculed Hillary Clinton for mandatory coverage, saying that we could also end homelessness by mandating home purchase. And it was at that exact moment that I put myself in Obama's camp because he seemed not only bold but fair. AND he ran with a government option in mind. What did we get? Mandatory coverage and no government option. Further, with pre-existing conditions, the individual may wind up paying up to three times the going rate.

It was indeed timid. To call it otherwise is spin.
02:38 PM on 10/28/2010
Jon Stewart has always carried the water for the liberal platform in general so I propose that any jousting that took place occured to give Obama a chance to defend weakly positioned arguments against his record and give us the impression that he conquered the criticism with his answers.
This was very contrived and for the Presidents benefit, so no complaining please, it's only faux crocodile tears.
02:32 PM on 10/28/2010
GOP and Tee Party candidates have no agendas, no plans, no interest in any national or international issues including the health care bill. However, they have master brained leaders and supporters, who have not mis-lead the American majority but many democrats candidates too. Obama and his staunch health care bill supporters are in minority and cannot speak anything about this subject.
After the election the Republican Congress and Senate will surely try to undone not only health care bill but so many bills passed in the last 27 months. BUT THE END RESULTS WILL BE MORE DEFICIT, MORE WARS, MORE KILLINGS AND MORE MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES and of course more Homeless, more poor more hungry and more UNEMPLOYMENT.
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01:50 PM on 10/28/2010
Stewart was right. Instead of starting with universal coverage and negotiating from there Obama chose to start with a public option, which was soon scuttled. He attempted to reach out to Republicans to participate in the debate, knowing full well that the party of "no" would lower itself to any compromise. He then went to the insurance companies, who did not opposed the plan, because it essentially gave the them millions of new clients. A bold approach would have been to bring to the table totally universal government run health care, sell it to the American public and negotiate down to a public option. At least Jon Stewart is willing to ask the tough questions as compared to the softball crap the Fox News people throw at conservative politicians.
01:49 PM on 10/28/2010
"Stewart opted to focus on the most weak and superficial criticisms of the President"

True. He should have asked "Why did you renew the Patriot Act? How exactly is it constitutional for you to have an assassination program targeting US citizens?"

Article on Obama's assassination program for those who are out of the loop: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/09/25/secrecy

Or "How do you feel now that the Congressional Budget Office has announced that the health care bill is going to cost billions more than projected?"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/05/cbo-health-care-bill-will-cost-115-billion-more-than-previously-assessed.html

Or "If the Stimulus created 3.5 million jobs, that means the American people paid $200,000 per each (temporary) job. How do you justify that to citizens who make let's say $30,000 a year who paid for that?"

Or "How is it constitutional for the Federal Government to mandate every citizen buy a pre-approved government product? Isn't that unconstitutional, an example of corporatism, and a dictatorial action?"

Or "I heard about that kid in the UK who sent you an angry email, and you had him banned from the US for life. Um, isn't that kind of petty for a president? And legally what does that fall under? Was that actually legal?"

http://www.mediaite.com/online/u-k-teen-calls-obama-prick-gets-banned-from-u-s/
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john1513
Ora et Labora
01:45 PM on 10/28/2010
Legal obligations do not lead to responsibility. What about the choice to prevent Congress from creating more problems? Unwanted Obamacare forced on America will ultimately result in conservative victories in 2010 and 2012.

"Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them."
“We must not look to government to solve our problems. Government is the problem.â€
"Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives."
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01:41 PM on 10/28/2010
Bill, you are missing the point of the Rally to Restore Sanity, this is not an anti-Beck rally or a band wagon rally for Obama. Heck if it was an anti –Beck rally the media would be swarming because it would be a polarizing event which would add to the insanity but it is not. Heck the rally has only been mentioned on Drudge once or twice. This rally is like the bus ride on Monday’s Daily show, an educated conversation of differing viewpoints not an, I HAT.. E Beck rally. (You will get the HAT..E comment if you purchased the hat)

Dainel Plainview
01:25 PM on 10/28/2010
I'm glad that we got something passed, but I think that the President listened to much to the insurance companies and not enough to the people who WANT A PUBLIC OPTION. Also, since we left the insurance companies in the middle of the process, and they skim a big profit, how is this a way to reduce the cost of health care in the US? When statistics come out comparing our system to those in other countries, the ones who have good systems and cost about half ours, remove the insurance companies, or at least have basic public insurance for everyone, and those who want "deluxe" coverage can by their own private supplement. (I'm thinking of France.)
01:20 PM on 10/28/2010
Bill, you're simply wrong. Jon Stewart was, if anything, being polite in calling it "timid". It rankles many in the so-called "progressive base" that Obama gave up the public option without a fight, in fact offered up the sacrifice way back before July '09 to the lobbyist for the hospital association - and then fraudulently tried to put the onus on a handful of senators. Even former Sen. Daschle confirmed that recently, until he was forced to hastily retract the truthful admission and replace it with the 'party line' the next day. The reason 99% of Dem candidates are NOT touting it is because they know it's a turkey; it's the old Republican alternative to HillaryCare that was passed, NOT a Democratic vision. Citizens are forced to buy into a failed business model; in return lots of bells, whistles and sweeteners were added in to make the bitter medicine go down better. Bottom line: the administration is giving a false narrative about the whole issue, and even if the public can't articulate it well, they smell the dung-heap. The Dems that aren't selling it in their campaigns (virtually all of them) know it, too. Only naive pundits like you appear to be haven't gotten the message yet. One last time: Stewart was being too polite when he called it "timid". When it comes to health, people don't want to be harnessed into padding corporate bottom lines, they just wanted affordable health care - which they didn't get.