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Religion and Politics Are Inseparable: Get Over It

Posted: 04/09/2012 3:43 pm

Cardinal Timothy Dolan appeared on Face the Nation on Easter Sunday. The New York Times reported on the conversation:

Asked by Mr. Schieffer if he thought religion was playing too much of a role in politics, the cardinal said, "No, I don't think so at all."


"The public square in the United States is always enriched whenever people approach it when they're inspired by their deepest held convictions," he said. "And, on the other hand, Bob, I think the public square is impoverished when people might be coerced to put a piece of duct tape over their mouth, keeping them from bring their deepest-held convictions to the conversations."

The cardinal of New York also quashed the idea that one should not vote for Mitt Romney just because he is a Mormon.

I agree with him on these two points. I can hear, however, the many people who have walked up to me and told me to keep my preacherly nose out of politics. Nevertheless, it should be clear from human history that religion and politics cannot be separated. Both of them arise from the fact that we Homo sapiens are communal beings: we cannot live completely alone. Every aspect of what makes us human develops completely from living in a community, beginning with the family. Anthropologists are clear that having a sense of the sacred (whatever one makes of it) is one of the fundamental aspects of what differentiates Sapiens from other hominids. Politics is how we order our common life.

It is therefore impossible to separate them, and anyone who claims it can and should be done is either lying or hasn't thought it through. It's pretty basic...

There are a lot of national elections happening this year around the world. Name one where religion is not a significant factor, even if it is not blaringly obvious, as it is in the United States. France, for instance, will elect a new president next month, and it is clear that Nicolas Sarkozy has been enlisting the help of religious leaders, including Muslims as well as Catholics and Protestants, in his re-election campaign. Just as obviously, his main rival, Socialist François Hollande, has been complaining about Sarkozy's alleged infringements on the République laïque, the legally secular, rigorously neutral French Republic. Atheists are religious too.

As a religious leader, I have often been told, as I said, to "stay out of politics." But that is impossible for a Christian, since Jesus of Nazareth's execution -- a crucial moment in human history for us -- was blatantly political. Proclaiming his Gospel therefore has inevitable political consequences. When Christians began reciting Kyrie eleison ("Lord, have mercy") in the liturgy, it was a powerful political statement. That is what a loyal Roman said to Caesar when coming into the emperor's presence. To repeat that in worship clearly states that God, not the emperor or other political ruler, is in charge. Can't get more political than that, especially considering that Caesar was thought to be divine himself.

Along the same lines, examine the places where religion and politics intersect in other faiths. Here, for example, is the right place to question the beliefs of the Mormons if one of them might become the President of the United States. John Kennedy had to answer similar questions, and his Catholicism was not held against him (just as Romney's religion should not stereotype him). The attempts by some Roman Catholic prelates to use excommunication against politicians who support abortion rights raise similar questions, however. Where does faith end and political loyalty begin? Can we reasonably expect people not to bring their deepest convictions, which are always religious in nature, to the public square, as Cardinal Dolan said?

The separation of church and state is certainly a major advance in human history and political theory. Under no circumstances should religious leaders ever be given political power merely because they are part of a religious hierarchy. Iran provides the latest example of how theocracy always corrupts both religion and politics. That said, all of us, even us bishops, have a duty and a right as citizens to engage in politics, at least by casting a vote. In particular, bishops having sworn to guard the faith and unity of the church must speak out from time to time. As Archbishop Rowan Williams has argued, this still has to be done while respecting the relationship between religion and human rights.

This is where I worry about the way in which the Catholic hierarchy, or the Mormon hierarchy for that matter, may try to influence politics. Dolan's call to his fellow bishops to man the barricades on the health care issue does not seem to me to respect the necessary requirement of all religious leaders' sallies into politics. The only way we bishops (or rabbis, or imams, or prophets, etc.) should publicly intervene in the politics of a democratic society is through linking our particular concern to the common good, not the rights of our particular religion. Nor can we argue purely from revelation: why should other citizens respect our opinions if we do not present them as applicable to all people regardless of religion?

As bishop of a multinational jurisdiction in which there is always some election happening, I always call upon the faithful to go and vote. It is biblical that Christians should care about the society we live in (Romans 13:1-7), and in a democracy, voting is a duty. (I also say that if you don't vote, you have no right to complain.) It would be a perversion of my authority to insist that they vote or against for particular candidates, though commenting on political ideologies that in my view threaten the common good is not inappropriate. In other words, it's not so much a matter of "do not vote for candidate X" as it is do not support fascism, racism, etc.

There is always a delicate balance to strike. So much is at stake, for all of us. But let us not kid ourselves, at least: religion and politics are inseparable.

 

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Cardinal Timothy Dolan appeared on Face the Nation on Easter Sunday. The New York Times reported on the conversation: Asked by Mr. Schieffer if he thought religion was playing too much of a role in p...
Cardinal Timothy Dolan appeared on Face the Nation on Easter Sunday. The New York Times reported on the conversation: Asked by Mr. Schieffer if he thought religion was playing too much of a role in p...
 
 
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07:40 AM on 04/11/2012
before 1960 religion barely mattered hell it wasn't till Linclon that god was ever even mentioned by a president in an inaugural so no religion and politics are not insperable the holier then thou crowd though would sure like to convince your otherwise though so that they can feel justified sticking their morality in your private matters
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Bishop Pierre Whalon
09:23 AM on 04/11/2012
Never heard of George Washington?
10:25 AM on 04/11/2012
George Washington was notorious for his contempt of religion in general and was at best a deitist that paid lip service to a general idea of god and certainly not your specific god no matter how much the religious right wants to rewrite history.

try again
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smalldar56
09:38 PM on 04/10/2012
Jehovah's witnesses don't get involved in politics.
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Bishop Pierre Whalon
06:11 PM on 04/10/2012
Well, hebaber, why should I pay the slightest attention to what you say? Because you and I are both responsible for our common life together. And where did you get the idea that Christianityor any religion is about ethics? Doing the right thing is required of everyone. Of course, defining what's right and wrong is a matter for public debate.

Which brings me back to my first point.

By the way, the altar guild takes care of the polish. You don't think thy'd let me near it, do you?
10:28 PM on 04/10/2012
No particular reason, but you just responded so presumably you paid attention (much appreciated). Having now had a more careful read, it's not clear to me how the conclusion, "religion and politics are inseparable," follows from earlier remarks. First you make the case that ethics is for everyone and that political action is to be justified on the basis of public reason. And religious folk, including clergy, are people like everyone else--so their involvement in politics is legit. Fine.

But then, non-sequitor, "religion and politics are inseparable." This is comparable to arguing that since eating is an essential feature of the human conditions and religious folk are humans, religion and eating are inseperable.

My real concern is that since Kant scared people off of metaphysics, quite a few religious leaders seem to have got the idea that in order to save the Church they have to get into a more respectable line of business. And that's traditionally been ethics--and politics. But reading more carefully, I don't thing that's what you're suggesting, so sorry for my haste.
05:04 PM on 04/10/2012
Of course religion and politics, and more deeply religion and ethics, are separable. Ethics is a secular enterprise. Years, or centuries, ago people would have been shocked by the idea that religion and cosmology were separable--religions after all were where the creation myths came from. How else could we learn that? Now we know better. We don't need religion tell us about the origins of the cosmos, or the origins of species, or even middle eastern history. And it's about time for people to realize that religions are no better when it comes to telling us about ethics and "values"

So what is religion? Beliefs about supernatural beings or states of affairs and cultic rituals, typically embodied in institutions. That is your job, Bishop. To maintain those buildings, do the ceremonies, and keep the silver polished. Why should we educated laypeople, in a world come of age, pay the slightest attention to what you say about matters of faith or morals? We can read and figure it out for ourselves. Your job is to do what we can't do on our own: maintain the buildings and put on the show. Aesthetics, not ethics, is the job of religion.
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dawacu
Jesus loves you
02:45 PM on 04/10/2012
Religion will always be a part of politics in a democracy that includes religious people who vote. Religion informs peoples values and worldviews and therefore influences the policies and candidates they support.

The only alternative to religion being part of politics is to deny religious people the right to vote, which most Americans (including myself) would vehemently oppose.
crakrman79
Like broken clockwork he's right twice a day!
12:28 PM on 04/10/2012
In a way he's right. I cannot deny the fact that I simply will never vote for any religous zelot of any denomination. Therefore, religion comes into play in my politics.
12:14 PM on 04/10/2012
While Santorum profoundly misunderstands the constitutional separation of church and state and Dolan mistakenly thinks the health care law puts religious employers in some sort of moral bind, Dolan rightly notes that the constitutional separation of church and state does not prevent citizens from making decisions based on principles derived from their religions. Moreover, the religious beliefs of government officials naturally may inform their decisions on policies. The Constitution, in this context, merely constrains government officials not to make decisions with the predominant purpose or primary effect of advancing religion.

Confusion arises because the constitutional principle is sometimes equated with a political doctrine that generally calls for political dialogue to be conducted on grounds other than religion. Two aims of that doctrine are to facilitate discussion amongst people of all beliefs by predicating discussion on grounds accessible to all and, further, to avoid or minimize putting our various religious beliefs directly "in play" in the political arena since government cannot base laws directly on those beliefs anyway and so citizens need not directly dispute or criticize each others' religious beliefs in order to resolve political issues. Unlike the constitutional principle, the political doctrine is not "law." Reasonable people can disagree about whether the doctrine is a good idea and whether or how it should influence us in particular circumstances.
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Gynn
12:07 PM on 04/10/2012
While I both understand a appreciate, those with deeply held moral convitictions need to vote as their religion dictates, the line blurs the more detailed the religious doctrine gets. As people vote to eliminate the need to teach evolution in schools, they are trying to legislate their own religion as truth, to the exclusion of all other religions. Both sides of the aisle may be guilty of this, but as of late the "moral majority" as they call themselves, believes it is their right to insitute their own beliefs as law. As it comes to actions like Abortion, or Drug Abuse, the moral argument from the religious right, will ignore the functional realities that people live in, and the nuances which cause people to make the decisions they do, in favor of sweeping statements of righteousness. Those who try and prohibit the actions of others, based on their own beliefs, violate the rights of others to practice their own religion freely.
One needs only to look at the attacks on the president, calling him a muslim, to see that the Christian Majority fears the religious liberty gauranteed by the constitution. And their attacks on religious liberty, whether it be about contraception, abortion, education, or science, does damage to the very fabric which had united this country for two centuries.

Permitting abortions does not force anyone to violate their own beilefs, but prohibitting them denies people to the right to reject religious dogma.
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methnkng
11:56 AM on 04/10/2012
If the church wants to be involved in politics, it should be made to pay taxes.
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shart10125
endeavor to perservere
11:35 AM on 04/10/2012
When I go to church on Sunday I don't want my pastor telling me who to vote for, and I don't want the president telling me what my religious beliefs should be. The right tool for the right job.
10:45 AM on 04/10/2012
The problem I have with religion in politics is the fact that we have people in power who are prepared to believe in what is after all magic. Give me an atheist president anytime.
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demisfine
Often correct, NEVER right.
10:38 AM on 04/10/2012
Sorry.
If any religious leader uses their alter as a jumping point from which they broadcast their political leanings, then they should pay taxes.
No representation without taxation.
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ny rebel
10:20 AM on 04/10/2012
You may not think they are inseparable, but I will always strive to uphold this great nation's separation of church and state. IN FACT, I THINK ANY RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS DOING A LOT OF LOBBYING SHOULD HAVE TO PAY TAXES. I have a feeling more and more people are starting to feel that way. I DO NOT BELIEVE JUST LIKE YOU. YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THE SAME WAY AS MANY OTHER CHRISTIANS AND OTHER RELIGIOUS PEOPLE (MUSLIMS, etc.) What bothers me the most about religion is each one thinks they're right and everybody else is wrong. Just what we need in government. Another tool to tear apart OUR government.
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Bishop Pierre Whalon
02:05 PM on 04/10/2012
In fact, the IRS will see to that. Political lobbying by a 501(c)3 religious organization of whatever kind will normally get your tax exemption taken away. As well it should.
10:11 AM on 04/10/2012
One of my deepest held convictions is that politics and religion should not be mentioned in the same sentence. They are two different things, one having nothing to do with the other. Both private, both separate.
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scorpions5
Facts do not cease to exist when ignored.
09:51 AM on 04/10/2012
The bottom line is simple, we are all entitled to believe and worship as we want. But when a politician's beliefs start to seep into their job, then it becomes a problem. If a politican runs on certain religious beliefs to get elected, and pastors urge their congregations to vote for this politician, we have sort of a theorcracy in the making. We can't stop what pastors say during their homilies, which can sway people to vote a certain way and on many issues. A politician needs to be free of any connection to religion in the public eye for he or she is suppose to uphold the constitution for all people, whether religious or not. When a politician puts religion first it will interfere with their decision making on certain issues. This is where the problem lies as we have seen with bills being passed now.