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Occupy Wall Street: The Enthusiasm Gap

Posted: 12/02/11 09:39 AM ET

The latest polls indicate that approximately 75 percent of Americans agree with the goals of Occupy Wall Street. Nonetheless, only 29 percent consider themselves supporters of OWS. What accounts for this enthusiasm gap?

The October Time magazine poll asked respondents if they agreed with the positions advocated by Occupy Wall Street and discovered extraordinary concurrence. 86 percent agreed that, "Wall Street and its lobbyists have too much influence in Washington." 79 percent agreed that, "The gap between rich and poor in the United States has grown too large." 71 percent agreed with ""Executives of financial institutions responsible for the financial meltdown in 2008 should be prosecuted." And 68 percent agreed that, "The rich should pay more taxes." Nonetheless, there remains a 45-50 percent enthusiasm gap, because the same voters who express these strong positive sentiments say they don't support OWS.

Perhaps these voters don't know enough about OWS. A recent USA Today/Gallup poll found that 59 percent of respondents felt they didn't know enough to approve or disapprove of the movement's goals.

It would be easier to accept the excuse "we don't know enough" if there was not a pattern of passivity. When we consider the past decade we can find many examples where average Americans should have taken action but didn't. In 2000, George W. Bush stole the presidency; many voters were outraged but few of them took to the streets in protest. On September 11, 2001, the US was attacked by terrorists; there were legitimate concerns that the Bush Administration had been asleep at the wheel yet once again Americans were passive observers. The terrorists were traced to Afghanistan and the US launched an attack; in December of 2001 most of the terrorists escaped from Afghanistan into Pakistan -- it was a glaring example of White House ineptitude but most citizens were quiet. Faced with failure in Afghanistan, the Bush Administration turned its attention to Iraq and, on March 20, 2003, launched an invasion; this time there were more protestors but the bulk of Americans stayed at home. Over the next several years there were glaring examples of presidential incompetence -- for example, the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina -- but for the most part voters were quiet. Then the housing bubble burst and, in late September 2008, Wall Street came close to melting down; Americans were stunned and depressed, but few took to the streets. Since the turn of the century, American voters, the 99 percent, have had a lot to be angry about, but have been passive.

Historians contrast this last lost decade with World War II era America where average citizens, the 99 percent, rose up, built the weapons, and fought the fights that defeated the Axis powers. What's happened to us?

Perhaps American workers don't have the time. It's a tough economy and many work two jobs. For the 99 percent it's a grueling daily chore making ends meet. Perhaps they don't have the energy to get involved with OWS.

Perhaps they don't get it. Many observers believe Americans no longer invest in our children and, as a result, many have poor schools, teachers, and study habits. We've raised several generations of "non intellectuals." The average American spends 2.7 hours per day watching TV and only a few minutes reading. Perhaps the 99 percent don't understand what all the fuss is about.

Perhaps they've checked out. The Pew Survey of Religious Affiliation found that 26.3 percent of respondents were evangelical Protestants; this does not include Black and Catholic evangelicals and many observers believe the true number is closer to 40 percent. A recent Pew Research Poll found that 41 percent of respondents believe that Jesus Christ will return to earth by 2050 -- when the rapture will occur. Perhaps the 99 percent are not involved because they are preparing to shuffle off this mortal coil.

Perhaps they're severely damaged. The official US rate for Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) is 7.8 percent -- with a higher incidence among veterans. However this does not include survivors of violence against women and children. The American Psychological Association reports, "Nearly one in every three adult women experiences at least one physical assault by a partner during adulthood" -- four million US women are assaulted each year. Approximately one third of US children under 18 experience abuse during their childhood - in 2009 6 million children were reported as abused. And then there are the adults that have been economically abused -- laid off because their job was moved overseas or fired and rehired as a temp with no benefits. It's reasonable to assume that a majority of Americans -- a huge segment of the 99 percent -- suffer from PTSD. As a consequence they are depressed, hopeless, and numb. Perhaps these American agree with OWS but can't get it together to participate.

The enthusiasm gap is a result of a combination of these factors. The challenge for Occupy Wall Street is to find new ways to engage members of the 99 percent who agree with OWS objectives, but are too tired or numb to participate.

 
 
 
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07:59 PM on 12/11/2011
In our city, there are flyers up that say There is a meeting of " Occupy Wall Street and Equality and Socialism " Merry Christmas.
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Marc Lewis
A 'Wobbly' Progressive for 50yrs
11:09 AM on 12/05/2011
Let me do the math here. Does this mean that OWS has a 20% higher approval rating than Congress? I guess it does. Not bad for a movement that has only existed for a little over 3 months, to say nothing of the approval of OWS's aims as opposed to the aims of the Republican members of Congress who are solidly ignoring their own base when it comes to taxing the rich, regulating Wall Street, etc..
11:03 AM on 12/03/2011
Indeed where was the outrage? And the source of our rage rides off into the sunset, his go-gettum'
cowboy mentality still intact and writes a book about how he ran this great country of ours into the ground. We the people were asleep at the wheel when we allowed Bush's presidency and are we not now reeping the rewards of our colossal failure to wake up?
10:31 AM on 12/03/2011
Indeed, where was the outrage? And the very source of our rage rides off into the sunset, his go
gettum' cowboy mentality still intact and writes a book patting himself on the back for running this great country into the ground. Yes, we the people were asleep at the wheel for allowing Dub-Yuh
to be our president and aren't we now reeping the rewards of this colossal failure to wake up?
10:43 PM on 12/02/2011
They agree with the goals. Heck just as many people agree with the tea party goals. What they don't agree with is the means to those goals. That's the only explanation. Laziness or numbness does not explain why a person wouldn't answer "yes" to a poll question.
Wib
Liberal former Marine who loves fly fishing and is
08:54 PM on 12/02/2011
Yes, there is an enthusiasm gap, and perhaps you are correct in your catalog of reasons for this gap, but I think it is because journalism has been betrayed by many who went into it after Watergate to make big changes. They weren't willing to do the hard work to find the transgressions of government and of what was then known as "the establishment," or perhaps they didn't find transgressions they believed would win them the next Pulitzer Prize, or perhaps they arrived just as most newspapers were sold into corporate servitude and they weren't allowed to pursue their dreams as the corporations, like most corporations, put profit above content and decimated newsrooms and they struggled to keep their jobs. For whatever reason, though, they failed the reading public, a failure that has become even more pronounced as corporate owners have pushed profits so far ahead of news that news content almost doesn't exist in newspapers any more -- and the corporations can't understand why circulations is plummeting. As a result, the public has little or no real knowledge of OWS and can only agree with the symptoms that gave birth to OWS without recognizing it as their own child.
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
04:43 PM on 12/02/2011
I am in total support of the OWS movement's ideals and analysis/ I don;t see how the tactics -- as they are portrayed nthe press - canhave the slightest actual impact on putting those ideals into practice, pressuring the people and agencies that can effect the change needed. Just generating "awareness" is nice and touchy feely- but I'd rather see some figurative touchy feely boards applied to the posteriors of the boards of directors of the --too numerous to name- firms that , in a total and shocking lack of responsibilty to their Nation, in acts of treachery that any patriotic American should decry, - brought our economy to this state of near ruin.

Sitting in the plaza isnt the same as Tahrir Square. where simply demonstrating ( with the implied threat of pervasisve violence throughout the nation) was so radical as to shake the regime's foundations. It takes a little more to scare 'em here.
01:43 AM on 12/04/2011
What do you suggest?
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
12:11 PM on 12/04/2011
Eat the rich?

(many of them are quite lean apparently)
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01:55 PM on 12/02/2011
The explanation is very simple. People can get support simple declarations of fact, or align with opinions. But "support" OWS?

I completely understand the disparity. It has to do with what OWS is--formless, fluid, all body and no head--and is not. It is not something that average people can see as a legitimate, identifiable entity. It is, essentially, a cloud op, without center, without leadership, without a form that makes sense to the people being polled. Supporting the ideas of OWS IS supporting OWS, but without an organization, without identifiers, a lot of people will draw a line between the ideas and the group. That makes sense to me, and people who support the concepts but not the campers should not be mocked and demeaned.
12:57 PM on 12/02/2011
"The enthusiasm gap is a result of a combination of these factors."

How about that the majority of Americans don't agree with OWS's tactics? You might at least have considered that, it is far more plausible than your suggestions.
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alexeiz
Since I lost all hope, I feel much better!
01:59 PM on 12/02/2011
We've seen how well all other "tactics" worked. The OWS's tactics already awakened many people who have been deep in mental coma in regards to existing situation, which is definitely some achievement.
03:03 PM on 12/02/2011
The question in this article is why do so many people who appear to agree with OWS' stated aims have a negative view of OWS. So even if the tactics were advisable or even necessary (and I don't think they are), it does not change the fact that they rub most people the wrong way.
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inmyhumbleopinion
Vote third party.
11:21 AM on 12/02/2011
I think the lack of support can be traced to the media coverage, or lack thereof. Watch any clip on network and local TV news, and they manage to find the least articulate, most flaky, hippy-looking people to make statements on camera because, of course, it makes for great visuals. Are those people part of the movement? Of course, but so are a lot of moms, teachers, out-of-work professionals, and veterans. Meantime, real reporters who want to do more than the skim the surface are being prevented from getting press passes and are either being arrested or cordoned off from the crowd. Hard to get any real data and/or speak to the people who are in the know.

So, the average Joe looks at the rag-tag mess that's being shown to them on TV and can't really relate. Who can blame them? As the saying goes, "It's got to play in Peoria". And the folks in Peoria are generally sympathetic to the boys in blue because they supposedly keep the peace.

It's for this reason that I think OWS needs to have some visible, clean-cut leaders who can represent the interests of the 99%. I know it seems counter-intuitive for a movement that is anti-game-rigging to play along with typical media relations tactics, but unfortunately, they will have to do so if they want to get the massive support they need to turn things around.
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Scott Leland
11:58 AM on 12/02/2011
Yes, what you are saying is logical, but the late-comers to encampments are mostly "street people" looking for a party. While the Zuccoti Parkers were developing a small scale "City Hall" type of self-government divided-up into security, food service, medical and a library most of the rest of the encampments were mostly just a place to hang-out.

A movement without leaders is a movement without a message.

We the people have to let the corporations know that we will appreciate them hiring Americans to get the Recovery going:

http://www.flixya.com/blog/3201910/Beautiful-Butterflys
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Gurinder Dhillon
Republicans thrive on false equivalencies.
11:05 AM on 12/02/2011
I work like 8 blocks from City Hall in Center City, Philadelphia and up until 2 nights ago Occupy Philadelphia was stationed there, and what has shocked me is that some of my coworkers who have reservations about the Occupy movement or outright just denigrate it as some sort of hippy box social would rather sit at home and Occupy the Couch and get their opinion of the entire movement from some pundit on one of the 24 hour news networks. Rather than walk 8 blocks and see it for themselves and formulate their own opinion they'd prefer to sit at home and get an opinion implanted for them by a pundit who works for a media outlet that has so many other parent company affiliated special interests that reporting the ACTUAL news is like their 5th priority with 1-4 being comprised of not accidentally offending the company's nefarious profit making tactics.
MrStat1
I believe in the rule of law
12:41 PM on 12/02/2011
But then that is their choice now, isn't it?
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thatsNotWhatIHeard
some people want tacos, others want ALL the tacos
04:09 PM on 12/02/2011
sadly yes, it is their choice to be a societal doormat
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Gurinder Dhillon
Republicans thrive on false equivalencies.
10:58 AM on 12/02/2011
You want to know why there is a massive enthusiasm gap between people who support Occupy and people who identify with Occupy and an even larger gap in participation and that is because Americans have been in the midst of a long occupation that they hold near and dear to their hearts and that is called Occupy the Couch. Its where they are made slaves to the 24 hour news cycle, indoctrinated by the mass marketing of whatever product Apple has just released, or they're just to busy keeping up with the Kardashians. When the Occupy movement started I was enamored with it I fell in love with the idea that Americans MY age were peaceably assembling and demanding that Wall Street reform its corrupt ways, and call me an idealist but I really thought that everyone who voted for Obama in 2008 would come out. Then I was brought back down to Earth, in America you couldn't have my generation reach critical mass unless simultaneously FaceBook were shut down, the Jersey Shore was yanked off the airways, and Netflix lost its last subscriber; our priorities are so warped its not even funny.
MrStat1
I believe in the rule of law
12:41 PM on 12/02/2011
You might be happier living in another country.
10:58 AM on 12/02/2011
Or perhaps they're FOX News viewers. FOX News viewers know less than people who don't watch any TV news. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-less-informed-people-fairleigh-dickinson_n_1106305.html
10:57 AM on 12/02/2011
You reference OWS goals, yet nowhere do you state exactly what those goals are.

And that's the problem. Ask 20 different people in the Occupy movement what the goal of the movement is, and you'll get 20 different answers. What are people supposed to make of that?
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thefreetradejoke
02:08 PM on 12/02/2011
Pretty simple deduction would tell you there are, at the very least, twenty equally important problems to address. I know, doesn't fit your party line, but that's what it is. You'll learn to deal with it.
02:37 PM on 12/02/2011
My party line, huh? I'm an independent who voted for Obama (and will again).

You're big into assumptions, I see.
10:08 AM on 12/02/2011
If they're going to prosecute those responsible for the financial meltdown, start with those in congress, HUD and the Justice Department that CAUSED the disaster.
10:52 AM on 12/02/2011
Serious question: Prosecute them for what? What are the charges?
12:05 PM on 12/02/2011
Same question for the Wall Streeters and banks. The things they were doing were legal......incredibly irresposible, lazy and craven....but legal.
12:59 PM on 12/02/2011
Exactly. There is some law breaking that went on, but in the main, what happened was not criminal.
11:02 AM on 12/02/2011
How about starting with the corporations who financed the campaign funds of Congress and paid the lobbyists to influence Congress to write the legislation that caused the disaster?
12:02 PM on 12/02/2011
Because you can't prove that. Its hard to prove a quid pro quo, especially one that doesn't make sense. The banks FOUGHT making these loans, initially, because they were too risky. The Dems called them racists and said they were "red lining", a TOTALLY fallacious charge. Once the government forced down lending guidelines at Fannie and Freddie, banks could write the risky loans and dump them.....and away we went.