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Posted: December 15, 2010 11:20 PM

This afternoon, Markos Moulitsas wrote an offhanded comment on Daily Kos that seems completely in line with the recent upswing in progressive apoplexy. Referencing a post by Duncan Black about the president's tax cut deal, Markos wrote, "Tax cuts don't create jobs. It's really obnoxious hearing Democrats like Obama trying to make that argument."

Right off the bat, and not to go all Aaron Sorkin nitpicky on Markos, but it's President Obama. Come on. Is it seriously that difficult to type the word "president?" And while I agree with the first part, I'm not sure what Markos is talking about in the second part. The president has never once suggested that tax cuts create jobs.

In fact, he said exactly the opposite as recently as Dec. 10 on NPR. From ThinkProgress:

And in an interview on NPR this morning with Morning Edition host Steve Inkseep, President Obama reflected this point of view, agreeing that the tax cuts for the wealthy will not create "one single job":
INSKEEP: Let me ask you about something that we heard from one of our listeners... The question that we got was: "Please ask him how keeping the tax rate for the richest the same as it has been for a decade creates one single job."

OBAMA: It doesn't, which is why I was opposed to it -- and I'm still opposed to it.

Here's the audio.


"It doesn't" create jobs, the president said. No gray area there. The exact opposite of what's being claimed by Markos and other progressives.

Concurrently, the president has obviously been ballyhooing his tax-cut compromise with the Republicans, while commenting that the deal will create jobs -- not the tax cuts part of the deal, specifically, but the overall deal. And he's right. If the CBO numbers indicating $1.61 in stimulus for every dollar spent on unemployment benefits are correct, then extending the benefits will create jobs as the economy grows.

What's so difficult to understand about this?

My intention here isn't to single out Markos -- or the tax-cut deal, for that matter. There's a larger and growing crisis within the progressive movement. I'm worried that certain factions of the movement are losing touch with reality.

No, this tax-cut deal isn't perfect. We're all well aware that tax cuts for the richest two percent won't create jobs, nor will they stimulate the economy. But -- and this is the case the president is making about the deal -- the only way to pass some form of economic stimulus (unemployment benefits) is to achieve a whip count that includes Republican votes.

And the only way to get Republican votes is to accept their deficit-ballooning tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans -- financed with money borrowed from China. Toss into the mix their laugh-out-loud, self-satirical contradictions about the deficit and debt "crisis" even though they're supporting the Bush tax cuts, which will add another $830 billion over the next 10 years. But the challenge is to overcome the GOP filibuster of, well, everything. Hell, they're even filibustering health care for the 9/11 heroes. These Republican 9/11 fetishists, who gladly exploit images of planes crashing into buildings along with the rubble-strewn streets of New York in campaign commercials, are filibustering health care for the heroes of that terrible event. And if they're willing to filibuster 9/11 heroes, naturally they'll filibuster unemployment benefits -- or any other form of effective stimulus for that matter.

President Obama understands this. And while the optics and his performance in trying to sell the deal have been lacking, the politics are best case, given the opposition party's carpet-bombing strategy.

Somehow, though, certain progressives don't get it. They believe the president is betraying progressive principles and deliberately sticking it to "the base."

First of all, the progressive movement is hardly the president's base. Most progressive leaders supported John Edwards during the primaries, and many were ambivalent about the president once he was nominated. The president's base is made up of mostly non-political Americans -- many of whom desperately need their unemployment benefits to continue until the jobs return.

Second, stop whining and wise up, progressives. The president isn't going to pass every last thing on your personal wish list. Just because he compromised on something that you've been frantically tweeting about doesn't mean it's time to pitch a tantrum and hurl the board game across the room -- storming off in a snit.

The volume of progressive crabbery and moping lately has been staggering -- otherwise sane progressives vowing to not vote in 2012, or to somehow conjure up a viable primary challenger to run against the president. Suffice to say, both ideas are ridiculous and ultimately self-defeating. Fun to bitch about as a way to blow off steam, but also a great way to elect Awful Republican President X.

Good gravy, are we really this fragile? The president accurately criticizes progressives for not understanding the political climate on the Hill, and we stomp and flail like a gaggle of infants? Pathetic.

Last week, Keith Olbermann delivered a Special Comment about the tax cut deal. In it, he predictably eviscerated the president for accepting the tax-cut compromise. Fine. I get it. And I like Keith.

But within the cablecast essay, Olbermann noted how the president engaged in a "preemptive abandonment" of both the public option and single-payer. Regarding the aforementioned and ridiculous notion of running a primary challenger to the president, it's worth noting here that not one serious Democratic presidential candidate has ever proposed single-payer. Ever. Not the 2008 progressive favorite John Edwards. Certainly not Hillary Clinton. And not even 2004 progressive favorite Howard Dean. And neither did Barack Obama. So I'm not exactly sure how President Obama can "abandon" a policy he never proposed in the first place.

The public option wasn't "preemptively" jettisoned either. Like every aspect and line item contained within the various health-care-reform bills that were ricocheting around Congress, it was up for negotiation. Every policy within those bills was negotiable. Not just the public option.

And despite that, it was still alive by November and December of 2009 -- at the end of that protracted battle. The president himself even promoted the idea in his joint session address in September of 2009, deep within the belly of the process. Hardly a "preemptive abandonment." (By the way, I couldn't believe my ears when Olbermann brought up the Gitmo closing in his list of presidential trespasses. Keith surely must be aware that the president ordered Guantanamo closed, but the Senate, including the progressive members like Bernie Sanders, voted against funding to actually close the base and move the detainees to Supermax prisons on the mainland.)

Okay, okay. I'm not making any friends here, but it's becoming increasingly difficult to participate in a movement where so many colleagues have careened off the rails. We're supposed to be the smart ones, the reality-based people.

And yet, out of some sort of manic-depression or desire for hipster cred, we've become overly preoccupied with tearing down the most liberal president in decades using non-reality-based criticisms instead of laser-focusing our efforts and resources on tearing down the real killers -- conservatives, Tea Party people and the GOP.

We need to focus and engage in smart accountability -- carefully pick our battles with the White House and, when we fight, we need to employ airtight, concise, reality-based arguments designed to convince rather than to hector. Otherwise, we're everything the president said in his press conference last week -- or worse -- and our attempts at accountability will increasingly resemble Tea-Party-style screeching. Featureless, brainless white noise in the distance.

But mainly, enough with the pouting. We have to stop mistaking petulance for "principle" and get something done.

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This afternoon, Markos Moulitsas wrote an offhanded comment on Daily Kos that seems completely in line with the recent upswing in progressive apoplexy. Referencing a post by Duncan Black about the pre...
This afternoon, Markos Moulitsas wrote an offhanded comment on Daily Kos that seems completely in line with the recent upswing in progressive apoplexy. Referencing a post by Duncan Black about the pre...
 
 
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Peta51
Humane Rights Advocate
10:11 PM on 01/13/2011
Good points here but seemed kind of anti-progressive. Petty to make a point about President Obama being call such, not like calling him an architect of mass murder in Afghanisnan with projection for Pakistan. Meanwhile, many go hungry and homeless here in the good ol' U.S. of A.
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02:45 PM on 01/12/2011
thats the attitude the white house used via rahm and gibbs and the dems didnt show up to the mid terms. the indes were mad because they see obama as weak.
now you come along and ask if we lost touch with reality, funny i was just going to say the same thing to people who refuse to see obama as anything less than perfect.
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dlo2
MS RN
11:18 AM on 01/11/2011
Good post, Bob. Especially: "Toss into the mix their laugh-out-loud, self-satirical contradictions about the deficit and debt "crisis" even though they're supporting the Bush tax cuts, which will add another $830 billion over the next 10 years. But the challenge is to overcome the GOP filibuster of, well, everything. Hell, they're even filibustering health care for the 9/11 heroes." I don't think we need more of the Republican politico-schizophrenia that chips away at overall credibility both within and outside the US...yet we need jobs and that is clear. So I propose creating federal work forces that will pay unemployment wages and cover our out of work Americans with the very same health care coverage as all our Congressmen/women. They will work on US infrastructure, work in rural, suburban and urban areas in need of reconstruction/city planning/social justice. Then I would bring back the Fairness Doctrine to mandate truth-based fact finding journalism for all media, particularly mega-media corps...and yes, I would re-enervate the FCC with anti-monopoly teeth that would create a balanced telecommunications sector...and then I would create a corp. of healthcare professionals by offering every graduate of: medical school, nursing school, fellowship in psychiatry, dental school, physical therapy school, (yes, and also naturopathic physicians) etc. with a five year civilian stint serving this country by staffing federal health care centers throughout the US...also federal scholarship: primary care DOs/MDs
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darcdante
02:07 AM on 12/26/2010
Tax cuts don't create jobs? Then why not just raise the tax rate on every person and corporation to 100%? The more money people have to spend, the more they will spend (up to a certain point, I'm not a big fan of tax cuts for people who earn over $1 million).
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NeoConsAreFinished
Fight the Ah mer I cun talibanned
05:35 PM on 01/05/2011
That is correct. Tax cuts do not create jobs. The evidence is voluminous.
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02:46 PM on 01/12/2011
and...it puts the us is debt to china for another 680 billion...and it is only because of the wealthy receiving these cuts
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03:04 PM on 12/24/2010
Sure they are!!! Progressives are as out of touch with reality as the Bush policies worked for America! They are much out of touch as the Bush Tax Cuts CREATED jobs! I believe the Obama Administion said they did not...that they drove the economy in some ditch! So, who's really out of touch with America?
03:02 PM on 12/24/2010
1Come on guys! You were being so hard on Obama! he is not perfect and neither all you! We just have to get it right most of the time. I love Obama because he tries very hard to compromise. how much more could we want from our tour president? who would want his job? I don't think it's so easy trying to meet in the middle. not everything can go your way in life. I have learned this the hard way from my disability. not everything is fixable. the best way to live life is to accept what you can and cannot change.
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Michael Valentine
Retired SEIU Member
02:12 PM on 12/24/2010
Ya know there is more to progressives then opposing tax cuts for the fabulously wealthy.

There are the matters of the two and a half to three wars going on for one thing.

Progressive Presidents who are also war mongers don't get it do they?
05:16 AM on 12/24/2010
Very good policies--fair -repub like them - most--definitely has become non-progressive==Healthcare and immigration will also be watered down. Obama is doing MUCH better
04:06 AM on 12/24/2010
I agree, Obama should pick his battles....Umm, which ones is he picking again? Where has he not compromised? Do-nothing healthacre reform? Toothless financial regulation? Tax cut capitulation? I don't fault him for the first two as the bluedogs in the Senate led to the watered down legislation....But come-on, a $5 million estate tax minimum? That is just sickening and that was a deal Obama personally negotiated himself....
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The Lone Stranger
Yes, I am a lousy typist. OK!
10:39 PM on 12/23/2010
I am sorry, but the notion that we should be careful about criticizing the Whitehouse is just more proof that President Obama is not cutting it as a leader.

He was an awesome salesman when it came to marketing himself during the 2008 campaign but this skill set is virtually unrelated to what it takes to be the sort of leader Obama made himself out to be. Now that many people feel ripped off because what they bought from the salesman just is not capable of performing as claimed it should come as no surpise that criticism will be the result. Telling me I should be loyal while Obama struggles to learn the basics of a job he was not ready to tackle just does not cut it.

My hope is that massive wave of anti Obama disgust will convince him not to seek a second term so that we democrats still have a chance of electing someone capable of not just talking about change, but actually with the leadership tools needed to deliver.
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NeoConsAreFinished
Fight the Ah mer I cun talibanned
05:36 PM on 01/05/2011
If Obama doesnt run then we will lose the presidency. It is just that simple.
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peegan
Silence like a cancer grows...S/G.
01:42 AM on 12/23/2010
"while the optics and his performance in trying to sell the deal have been lacking,"
 
I pulled this phase out for a specific reason. Though buried in the column, I think it is at the heart of Obama's problems as of late and the frustration so many liberals have felt with him. He is lousy at communicating with the people the what where and when of what he is doing until AFTER people are p ssed. And the onus to communicate his plans, his time table, is on him and not the voter.
 
Only when people were vocal in losing faith with him over DADT did he explain (weakly) why he wanted it to go through congress. And after months of stating he was adamant about not extending tax cuts for the rich, bam, a 180 degree turn around. Now I understand that he felt (and correctly, I believe) that the only way he was going to get tax breaks for the middle class and UI benefits extended (the true stimulus package) was to compromise on this, but that should have been thoroughly explained before the deal was announced (name some names Mr.President, which representatives agreed to switch their vote with this compromise).
 
Now I am really going to tick some people off, and say that frankly, the victories of the last few days belong more to people like Pelosi and Reid than Obama. They, and a handful of others, are the ones that by force of will and by making sure that the people of this country knew exactly what was on the line, got things like DADT repealed,  START passed, and help for the first responders. It was their voices I have been hearing on the news, not Obama's. They are the ones that introduced stand alone legislation and shamed a few Republicans into doing what was right. And while ultimately the victories will go into Obama's column, the man who so brilliantly sold himself to us back in 2008 has been painfully absent as of late.
 
Fire away, I'm off to bed.
 
 
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The Lone Stranger
Yes, I am a lousy typist. OK!
10:44 PM on 12/23/2010
I honestly think he is just coming up with post rationalizations in response to understandable public outrage.

I think what happens is that he gets beaten down by the GOP because he is a lousy negotiator and then with his weak agreement finally in hand he is desperate to cook up a rationalization that gets him off the hook for having blown it yet again.

He's way in over his head and we need to start thinking about who of the Democrats can beat him in a the primary.
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parlimentMike
Terrorists keep you in fear
02:13 PM on 12/24/2010
I believe that the policies pushed by the president are inherently wrongheaded, and frequently in opposition to what I perceived his campaign positions to be. Although I'm seeing lots of instances where he spoke out of both sides of his mouth during the campaign.

It's not the propaganda that's the problem, it's the quality of the policies.
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Sock De Jour
Democracy is an illusion
01:05 AM on 12/23/2010
No, but you and every other Obama supporter and Democrat in Congress have lost touch with reality if you think that the same foreign, trade, fiscal, economic policy and corporate lobbyist written legislation are going to fix anything in this country.

In case you hadn't noticed, the Democrats are now pushing trickle down economics, in the face of all the evidence against it, and what it's done for the country over more than 3 decades.

When 40% of the country are existing on food stamps, there's something seriously wrong with the current economic model.

The problems in America are so serious, that if we don't get drastic real structural reform in politics, law and our economy, along with a purging of every corrupted government agency and a way to stop K St, from polluting every single bill, then America is finished. This is the beginning of the end, and people like you can't even see what's so incredibly obvious to anyone not cloistered in their comfortable cocoon of privilege and propaganda.
04:08 AM on 12/24/2010
Watch out, you're going to get branded as part of the "extreme left wing" by all of these moderated on the message board that are very very happy with the status quo....
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02:57 PM on 12/24/2010
Fanned and faved!
10:58 PM on 12/22/2010
"Progressive" are never in touch with reality, only their self-anointed superiority over the rest of we hoi-polloi.
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RMForbes
Ask me about industrial hemp
12:13 PM on 12/22/2010
One point that seems to be missed by everyone is that not all tax cuts are created equal. Cutting taxes for the wealthy does little to stimulate the economy and contributes to more concentration of wealth which is even worse for our economy. However, cutting taxes for income earners at the low end of the scale is very stimulative because the money stays circulating in the economy and creates far more economic activity as it changes hands. Allowing the American workers to keep and spend more of their income will increase economic activity at the local level giving local small businesses a better chance to thrive.
04:12 AM on 12/24/2010
Cutting taxes for the ultra-rich is not just un-stimulative for the economy, nor is it simply unfair. It is actually an erosion of the basic democratic machinery. With concentration of great wealth in few hands, those few wield disproportionate power to influence policy, legislation, regulation, and all manner of government machinery. That is why we are facing these problems in the first place. The few with extreme wealth have a disproportionate voice and influence policy in their favor to the detriment of the rest of us.... That is how these tax-cuts are a direct affront to democracy...Its not just theoretical this actually is happening as we speak.

OBama's tax compromise truly was a failure of leadership for the soul of this nation...
12:08 PM on 12/22/2010
just had to read this again. bob cesca please get out of my mind!