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No, Obama Is Not 'Worse Than Bush' on National Security

Posted: 02/14/2013 12:50 pm

Just when I thought it was safe to carry on a reasonable conversation on the left about various Obama administration policies, the phrases "same as Bush" or "worse than Bush" have skulked back into popular use thanks to the leaked Office of Legal Counsel white paper on the targeted killing of terrorist combatants who were born in the U.S.

You really can't miss it. It's all over Twitter and the blogs -- screeched by experts in the field of shaming anyone who doesn't similarly screech for the immediate censure or impeachment of the president over his national security strategy.

As with last week, I'm going to start a column with a word about a segment from Real Time with Bill Maher last Friday. Maher brought out The Daily Beast's Tina Brown who, during a segment about drones, said, "[Obama] would be impeached by now on drones, if he were W. Bush. Don't you think?" And then she somewhat backed off the impeachment talk and continued, "If this were a Republican president, the outcry about drones would be far greater."

First of all, I'm shocked that Tina Brown doesn't know. There's a huge outcry about drones and the Office of Legal Counsel white paper. But before I get into specifics, here, too, is The New York Times with some shocking sensationalism:

Four years into his tenure, the onetime critic of President George W. Bush finds himself cast as a present-day Mr. Bush, justifying the muscular application of force in the defense of the nation while detractors complain that he has sacrificed the country's core values in the name of security.

This is absolutely ridiculous, regardless of whether you're pro-drone or anti-drone -- pro-white paper or anti-white paper. There's simply no comparison between the two, but the pervasiveness of this meme leads me to believe that some of these people are desperate to use the line regardless of the circumstance or severity of the trespass.

Let's take a look back to the dark ride of the Bush years. In spite of his awesome Wes Anderson-esque artwork, George W. Bush, under the influence of sociopathic neocon warhawks, invaded two nations in the name of fighting terrorism. He committed legions of American soldiers to invade and occupy Iraq under false pretenses and in the complete absence of an exit strategy or a true sense of mission. Because Bush's defense secretary failed to provide these soldiers with adequate body armor or properly outfitted Humvees, more than 30,000 American soldiers -- again, in a war of dubious origins -- were either killed or mutilated or psychologically shattered or a combination thereof.

In the name of fighting terrorism, the Bush administration tortured a wide variety of detainees: an unethical and completely immoral series of war crimes, say nothing of the fact that it's an ineffectual form of interrogation. Meanwhile, aided by a compliant Congress, the Bush team suspended the civil liberties of Americans when it passed the PATRIOT Act and other fearmongering policies. And yet the Bush administration failed to capture or kill Bin Laden, and the commander-in-chief who tasked scores of Americans to fight and die for his Cause admitted through a giggling smirk that he doesn't spend time thinking about getting Bin Laden.

And on top of everything else, George W. Bush was responsible for the assassination of at least two American citizens: Kamal Derwish who was killed by a drone strike in Yemen and Ahmed Hijazi, who was killed in a targeted Hellfire missile attack. To be fair, the Bush administration claimed Derwish and Hijazi weren't the intentional targets, but decide for yourself in the context of the Bush administration's questionable veracity in the war on terrorism.

I could spend vast column inches running through the egregious national security policies of the previous administration, but I think you remember.

On the other hand, President Obama not only ended Bush's hubristic war in Iraq, but he's in the process of ending the war in Afghanistan. This is a critical point: he was handed a pair of wars and the Herculean responsibility to wind them down in a way that didn't leave the troops who sacrificed everything with a sense that their service wasn't an exercise in futility. That's no easy task. But it appears as if we'll be able to nobly withdraw from Afghanistan without witnessing desperate scenes of American personnel grappled onto the skids of evacuation choppers on the rooftop of the American consulate. In other words, this president has created an exit strategy that never existed during the Bush years and it's a strategy that honors the sacrifices of the men and women who served in country for far too long.

The use of drones in Pakistan, the targeted killing of Anwar al-Awlaki and continued use of indefinite detention of enemy combatants are all byproducts of the third war: the war on terrorism. To repeat something I wrote last week, the president ought to work with Congress to repeal the post-9/11 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), which would rescind his extra-constitutional powers. The use of drone technology as a CIA and military weapon ought to be regulated and checked to make sure its risk-free convenience doesn't lead to its abuse. But if the exercise of these powers, including the detention of enemy combatants, are the worst aspects of the Obama administration, there's no intellectually honest way to market in the claim that Obama is as bad or worse than Bush. There's no way.

Going back to Tina Brown's accusation that liberals are hypocritical for evidently giving Obama a pass on the above powers, I'll take the bait. Would I be angrier at Obama's anti-terrorism efforts if he was a Republican? Absolutely. If Obama was a Republican, or if somehow Bush was still president, his actions would be significantly worse -- an assumption made with significant evidence gathered over eight brutal years. It's not difficult to see how a Republican's conduct would be significantly more hawkish and bloody. Bush Republicans are more recklessly bellicose than Democrats. So instead of using drones in Pakistan and Yemen, perhaps a Republican president like Bush would commit more soldiers in more boots-on-the-ground invasions. Is that so far-fetched given what we've observed in Bush and the two Republican presidential nominees?

On top of a would-be Republican's management of the wars and the war on terrorism, a Republican president's domestic and fiscal policies would be guided by the tea party and Fox News' influence, seriously threatening our economic and climatological progress; jeopardizing the reproductive rights of women; and further deregulating the corporations that caused the Great Recession.

Comparative political analysis of the presidency requires serious evaluations of context. A question for Tina Brown: how should liberals evaluate progressive hero FDR given how he fire-bombed Tokyo, a paper city, while also incarcerating more than 100,000 American citizens in indefinite detention camps without due process? How should liberals evaluate Abraham Lincoln who unconstitutionally suspended habeas corpus, threatened to arrest the Chief Justice and killed 250,000 enemy combatants who happened to have born in the U.S.? Naturally we have to consider the context of these actions. In spite of their more questionable deeds, these presidents were otherwise historically strong leaders with powerfully liberal legacies. Had they not been, and had their more harrowing decisions been accompanied by many, many other harrowing decisions (what if Lincoln acquiesced to slavery and southern secession?), then yes, liberals ought to view them through the same contextual prism, say, Nixon, Hoover or George W. Bush.

But kneejerk conflation of Obama and Bush could be the most ridiculous talking point to come out of the mouths of liberals in the post-Bush era. Without the benefit of logic or historical context, it's merely a cheap crowd-pleaser used by anyone seeking the accolades of similarly nearsighted sycophants.

Cross-posted at The Daily Banter.
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03:46 PM on 03/07/2013
I'm going to use this article of an example of resorting to the use of ad hominem attacks and red herrings rather than providing support for one's argument.

This article makes Cesca look like an uncritical fanboy of Obama. That's all it achieves.
04:57 PM on 02/22/2013
Seriously? How about we understand what unregulated money has done to our nation's political system? How about admitting there is a significant demographic claiming themselves 'patriots', when the more correct description is vacant racists? While we're at it, lets acknowledge how corporate media has turned news & information into some quote-unquote 'reality-show' of the worst kind, where only those who shriek the loudest, w/the most ignorant points of view, overshadow the rational, knowledgeable & coherent? How anyone could even enter into this debate, w/out understanding who the President 'was' before & after being elected in '08, has only half the facts, but can STILL - in no way, honestly debate that the 2001-2009 administrations' 'figurehead' was the absolute worst W.H. occupant - if not since Hoover - EVER!!!
06:03 PM on 02/17/2013
Obama might as well be Bush's brother from a different mother.
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03:45 PM on 02/16/2013
Let's get real---both Bush and Obama are wrong in their "War on terrorism". I had hoped Obama was smarter ( which wouldn't have been too hard) and ended any aggression unless we were attacked.
Our MIC and CIA is the cause and antagomists of terrorism, and they will continue to perpetuate it because we are famous as the nation of war. That's what we export.
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eportlow
Combating the Right
05:17 AM on 02/16/2013
The question of Obama being the same, or worst, than Bush is clearly answered. President Obama hasn’t sought any new wars. In fact, he avoided troop, and even pilot involvements in both Libya and Syria.
President Obama, having inherited both of Bush’s wars, spent his presidency getting us out of one war and winding down our involvement in the other. His presidency has resulted in finding and the taking out Bin Laden, and the severe crippling of Al-Qaida. But, did Bin Laden’s death, or diminution of Al-Qaida, mean we won the war on terrorism?
Is Al-Qaida’s declared war on modernity and those they feel export it, a compelling threat to U.S. national security? If so, the question becomes, how you prosecute such a nebulous war. Put boots on the ground? Invade Pakistan, Yemen, with troops, or pay them to eradicate the threat? Or continue Bush’s use of unmanned drones, to perform surgical targeted killing of terrorist, with as little collateral losses and damage as possible. If so, when do we know we’ve won the war? Has the use of drones mitigated terrorist attacks on the U.S.? If the answers to these questions are unknowable, it might be time to call in the drones, until Congress, Executive branch, and the military write rules of engagement consistent with our and international laws, and values. These are hard questions for President Obama, but would only elicit a neocon kneejerk reaction and a deepening quagmire under President Bush.
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icefantx
Fair to partly cloudy.
12:39 AM on 02/16/2013
In all the time I've paid attention to politics, I'm certain about two things: One, we may never know the extent of secrets being kept from us by our government, and the world over. And two, one party really is worse than the other.
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03:27 PM on 02/15/2013
Warrentless surveillance has more than tripled under the Obama admin. So let's call it something benign, like "data mining" and conveniently leave it out of the discussion. The Pat Act, a disturbing abomination from the start, was quitely reauthorized without any meaningful oversight as initially promised. Where's the outrage?

This "who did it first and worse" bit is grade school nonsense. It matters not. We have another administration sorely abusing its power and trampling due process. That's what matters. Apologists like Cesca try to convince us that past indiscretions somehow excuse those of the present. Take that to its logical end and we'll necessarily be left with a purely corrupt government that holds zero regard for individual rights. The worst part- everyone will be expected to be alright with it because, hey, some other arzhole did it first.
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Laura Cody
A New Dawn - I hope for change
08:36 PM on 02/15/2013
Much of the fault lies with Congress for not reigning in President Bush or doing anything in President Obama's first administration to curb the power the Presidency has absconded with.

By not impeaching President Bush and by not repealing the Patriot Act they have given the Presidency more power and it will be hard to take it back.

For instance, to get rid of the Patriot Act they would have to actually work together to have the power to override a Veto if need be.

I am not expecting either side to do any of that.

But I have hopes that the Republicans will come back a bit to the center. I heard a statement from Karl Rove where he said that they are going after the Tea Party in 2014 to get less radical people running for Office, in other words, they are eating their young.... awesome...
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
03:08 PM on 02/15/2013
Both Bush and Obama have kept the American working people in the dark and fed them BS about the goals of American policy at home and abroad - while, at the same time they have confided with the powerful and the privileged

Bob may think he is part of a more ethical team, when maybe it is just that he is more perfectly corrupted.
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
03:00 PM on 02/15/2013
George Bush called a Crusade and committed crimes.

Barack Obama became an accessory of George Bush after the fact and institutionalized and expanded his abuse of power.

They are different, but they are partners in crime.

Too bad.
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Davwbaird
Brothers and sisters of the same mother
11:19 PM on 02/15/2013
Monday watch the expose on lies leading to the Iraq war , I do not see Obama in the way you do.

To call the President as a partner with Bush absurd.
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03:38 PM on 02/16/2013
No it's not. Get over the bull, quit siding with right or left and see what is really going on.
Maddow's show is just rehashing of what most of us already knew.(and Obama continues).
01:29 PM on 02/15/2013
Easy way to figure out who is better or worse on National Security - Who directly or indirectly caused the deaths of more American citizens? I think Obama's result would be 4 while GWB would be at several 1,000s.
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Republicans are job-creating fact-checkers!
01:04 PM on 02/15/2013
A fluff piece of the first order...
12:36 PM on 02/15/2013
Interesting article - more thoughtful than some. I have read many of the comments spawned by this piece and find little that does anything more than either support or oppose the author's opinion (keeping in mind that it is an "opinion" piece). The author, like most of the responses, holds a position that offers nothing in terms of finding a better solution. My question is this: How do you solve the problem? It is undeniable that abuse of Executive power is vested in the assassination of American citizens simply because those Americans are defined as "enemy combatants"; there is also the reality that when an American citizen renounces his/her citizenship by joining forces with a military or terrorist group engaged in war against America, that American citizen has also renounced their constitutional privileges (US District Court decision, Judge John Bates - 12/07/2010). As a renowned person once said, "war is hell"; as we move forward in this ever-shrinking globe, we will be dealing with some very unsavory people. Currently, it seems that there are only two methodologies that receive much attention: Either we rise above those who would harm us and suffer the consequences of an indefensible nation, or we sink to their level, which seems to be the trend line, and protect our interests with little concern for ethics, morality, and the rule of law. Surely we can come up with something better. Any ideas?
02:05 PM on 02/15/2013
The American citizens who have been assassinated by Obama, namely al-Awlaki and his son, never renounced their citizenship. There is nothing in the US Constitution that revokes one's citizenship and protections if he/she joins forces who are fighting against the US. Article III section 3 allows for charges of treason to be brought against such individual.
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12:03 PM on 02/15/2013
An essay devoid of any recognition of Pres. Obama's abuses, save this throw-away line: "There's a huge outcry about drones and the Office of Legal Counsel white paper."

Instead of defending the President on the thin premise of being "not as bad as Bush," the author would have made better use of his column space by actually leveling a cogent criticism of why the current President still leaves much to be desired. He could have scratched the surface of the inherent dilemma of assassinations conducted without legislative or judicial review. He could have identified the slippery slope, both with the use of drones in general, and with political assassinations. He could have done many things, but instead he toed the party line of "no matter what we do, the other guys were worse." What an insight.
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
03:02 PM on 02/15/2013
Perhaps Cesca is an insider rather than an objective journalist.
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03:45 PM on 02/15/2013
I'm not sure I'd use the word "objective" in the same sentence as "journalist" when describing very many members of the fourth estate.
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12:01 PM on 02/15/2013
The "worse than Bush" ploy by the right wing is just their way of attempting to avoid the responsibility and accountability for the mess he and Cheney created for the nation that may never be resolved in the short run or long term. How the two got away with the gross negligence prior to and duing the 9/11 attack killing nearly 3,000 of our people while at work, using lies, deceit and chicanery to start a mismanaged venture into Iraq killing more and squandering trillions after bungling the legitimate mission into Afghanistan,.all this while undermining a once viable economy is a mystery of galactic proportions.
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Edward Watters
If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal
11:42 AM on 02/15/2013
"On the other hand, President Obama not only ended Bush's hubristic war in Iraq, but he's in the process of ending the war in Afghanistan"

The writing was on the wall for both wars, so not much credit can be given to the man who happened to be in office when the wars became unpopular with the ruling class. And don't forget the Obama "surged' both before "ending" them.

Basically, this guys argument is that "Bush was worse". And that is what the Dems have become adroit at: being just a few millimeters on the sane side of the Repubs.

Drones have only one effect, and this is the effect desired by our MIC: to recruit more terrorists.