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What Does 'Death to Israel' Mean to You?

Posted: 11/07/11 04:33 PM ET

My daughter went to school this morning worried about her civics exam. She came home worried about explosive warheads.

As of this week, she's in range.

Her school is now within reach of rockets that travel farther and with far more deadly payloads than the weapons we knew just a short time ago. With blasts strong enough to shatter apartment windows seven stories in the air.

My daughter is an unarmed noncombatant. That should matter. It should matter, in particular, to progressives who believe, and justly so, that the inalienable rights of human beings, children in particular, take clear precedence over the strategic designs of nation-states and the appetites of nationalism.

It should matter, as well, when progressives turn a blind eye to war crimes committed against Israel -- or, for that matter, to war crimes committed by Syria against Syrians. The assumption is that Israel's crimes are of such Third Reich magnitude, that anti-civilian violence committed by its enemies is either negligible or justified.

I'll grant that it may be easier to see things this way from a distance. Say, the greater Akron, Ohio area, where last week Kent State history professor Julio Pino stormed out of a lecture given by Israeli diplomat Ishmail Khaldi -- the first Bedouin Arab to serve in Israel's foreign service -- shouting "Death to Israel."

Prof. Pino did not explain what he meant by death to Israel. Nor did Utah attorney Robert Breeze, when Salt Lake City granted him a municipal permit to stage a 14-hour "Death to Israel" rally in Salt Lake City in 2006.

Closer to home, though, where the Islamic Jihad's calls of "Death to Israel" come wrapped in Iranian steel and 40 pounds of explosives, the message is sharp as shrapnel: a call for genocide.

"Death to Israel" means death to Israelis. It means death to the members of my family. Like many in Israel, a family which has long worked hard and consistently and intensively for the rights of Palestinians, Muslims and Christians alike, to live in safety and sovereignty in a country of their own. What we want for ourselves is no less just. It is, in fact, the very same: freedom to live in safety and sovereignty.

I'll grant also that for some progressives, it may all come down to a question of numbers. I wonder how -- or if -- Pino relates to the death last weekend of Moshe Ami, the father and grandfather killed by an Islamic Jihad rocket, put to death on the streets of Ashkelon for the crime of Driving While Israeli.

Pino may see disproportionality and injustice in the fact that only one Israeli died in the rocket attacks, while army air strikes in Gaza killed at least 10 members of the Islamic Jihad and the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, several of them while in the act of firing rockets at southern and now central Israel.

It should matter that Israel took pains to spare Palestinian civilians in these raids. It should matter, just as the wrongheaded, ultimately self-destructive excess and civilian casualties of past operations have mattered to those who justly condemned them.

It should matter that the Islamic Jihad, Iran's direct foothold in Palestine, knows precisely what Death to Israel means. As does Iran.

What is this country that Julio Pino and Robert Breeze believe deserves to die? They may think they know Israel. They may think this is one huge, Arab-loathing, mass-murdering, land-thieving plague of an illegitimate entity.

It is certainly easier on the political conscience to see us this way.

But if progressives cannot see Israelis as people, if they -- we -- cannot summon up the same compassion and concern for unarmed combatants on both sides of a battle front, it's time they checked their ideology for holes.

The country that Pino and Breeze want to see eradicated is far more complex and worthwhile than they want to consider. It is a country in which a clear majority of the population, battered by wars and terrorism and heartbreak and frustration, still wants to see negotiations leading to a Palestinian state alongside Israel, and an end to occupation.

My daughter's civics teacher, who teaches her class about the natural rights of all peoples to liberty and security, gives extra credit to students for going to demonstrations and protests.

You can be sure that each one of those pupils, left, right or center, knows exactly what "Death to Israel" means. Not one of them, left, right or center, will stand for it. Not one of them should.

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Originally published on Haaretz.com

 

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dougsabbag
Bostonian / American
10:32 AM on 12/03/2011
NY Times, today:
WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta spoke sternly on Friday to America’s closest ally in the Middle East, telling Israel that it is partly responsible for its increasing isolation and that it now must take “bold action” — diplomatic, not military — to mend ties with its Arab neighbors and settle previously intractable territorial disputes with the Palestinians.

“I believe security is dependent on a strong military, but it is also dependent on strong diplomacy,” Mr. Panetta said. “And unfortunately, over the past year, we have seen Israel’s isolation from its traditional security partners in the region grow, and the pursuit of a comprehensive Middle East peace has effectively been put on hold.”

So, if you don't want the chants of "Death to Israel" to end, then Israel should seriously embrace peace through justice instead of their peace through bullets policies. Even the American government is starting to suggest this to Israel. Will Israel see this in time?
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kanamartin
I vote democrat, but I'm no libral!
11:07 PM on 11/12/2011
Respondents were asked about US President Barack Obama’s statement that “there should be two states: Palestine as the homeland for the Palestinian people and Israel as the homeland for the Jewish people.”

Just 34% said they accepted that concept, while 61% rejected it.

What about the idea of phased destruction that Yasser Arafat said all along was the goal of the Palestinian Authority? Well, the Palestinians are still on board with that.

Sixty-six percent said the Palestinians’ real goal should be to start with a two-state solution but then move to it all being one Palestinian state.

It isn’t Israeli hearts and minds that need changing. It is the Palestinians. And settlements don’t seem to be the real obstacle to peace. Look at these findings:

Asked about the fate of Jerusalem, 92% said it should be the capital of Palestine, 1% said the capital of Israel, 3% the capital of both, and 4% a neutral international city.

Seventy-two percent backed denying the thousands of years of Jewish history in Jerusalem, 62% supported kidnapping IDF soldiers and holding them hostage, and 53% were in favor or teaching songs about hating Jews in Palestinian schools.
09:23 PM on 11/09/2011
Okay. But it has to be seen from the other side too: imagine being a Palestinian living in Gaza, East Jerusalem or the West Bank, how would you feel seeing written " death to the Arabs"on the walls or hearing "Palestinians out of here" and be treated like they are currently ? Is "death to Israel" worse than "death to the Palestinians" ? That's why either you find an agreement (78%-22% of 1949 Palestine land) or you accept each other in a one-state solution. Time to stop seeing only oneself as the victim, grow up and see the other part.
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Seawolf56
Truth should never be censored
10:39 AM on 11/09/2011
Death to Israel" means death to Israelis, Continue the paranoia. America has paid Billions for all the defence Israel needs to survive any and all attacks! Now Israel needs to stop attacking others causing the same words from the children in Palestine!
08:56 AM on 11/09/2011
It is the same as when Zionists shout Death to Arabs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ5-91kUu98
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04:07 AM on 11/09/2011
Attempts to frame civilian casualties as "justified" or not is either intended to obfuscate the issue or emotional and irrelevant. The fact is simply that Israels morally repugnant actions towards millions of people under their government and military control has resulted in a morally repugnant and completely predictable reaction. Israel and Palestine kill each others children. This will continue until they have a reason to stop. And history clearly shows us that Israel has no reason to stop, providing the Palestinians with no reason to stop. The power is in Israeli hands and with power comes responsibility. Attempting to convince the world that the Israeli military is at war with a basically unarmed enemy is simply a continuation of the same dishonesty that has escalated this to where it is today.
05:05 AM on 11/09/2011
dude move along
that's a good fellow
what's this...camps
of sick and poor Syrians,
nevermind Isreal makes for
a good distraction.
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05:46 AM on 11/09/2011
Thank you for your articulate, well reasoned and beautifully punctuated response. :))
03:58 AM on 11/09/2011
Beautiful, as always, Bradley. One thing: I think that anyone who shouts "death to Israel," cannot possibly be considered progressive by any stretch. As we are reminded this week in Israel, progressives and - no apologies here - thoughtful, committed, activist supporters of human rights (aka 'left') do not call for the deaths of human beings, that great privilege is reserved for Price Tag and their ilk - and I agree that we progressives do and must distinguish civilians on either side from combatants firing rockets or airstrikes on civilians. So the implication that it's "progressives" who have to check their ideology is a misapplication of the term in my opinion to people who are simply haters of humanity. Thank you as always for being so incisive.
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h111aryc1inton
Just trying to tell the truth
11:22 AM on 11/09/2011
Dahlia - your comment "anyone who shouts "death to Israel," cannot possibly be considered progressiv­e..." ignores the vast majority of comments on HuffPo alone - unless you are willing to say that the left and Libs are not true progressives.

I think Mr. Burston is correct - it is just easier for "progressives" to ignore what it is they are saying, to ignore that "death to Israel" does mean death to Israeli civilians.

As for a professor so unprofessional as to storm out of a room like that - well F him I guess, it is good to be a college professor sometimes.
04:04 PM on 11/08/2011
No other people has seen half its population murdered in a torturous inhumane manner. I am not asking for any accommodation or sympathy, but the reality is that much of the Jewish community remains traumitized by the Holocaust. To you, Never Again may be just another slogans amongst slogans. To the Jewish people it is a sacred vow, more holy than anything else in the religion.

When Palestinians say Death to Jews, it resonates with 1000 years of Christial discrimination, persecution blood libels. pogroms and murder, as well as the Holocaust. Too many Jews and Israelis are not able to consider the relative military strengths and know that the Palestinians cannot destroy the State of Israel, because they hear the death slogan in the vortex of Never Again.

What to do about this, who knows. and the Palestinians have their own psychological triggers. But to understand the Israelis and Israeli policy, you have to understand this.
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04:19 AM on 11/09/2011
Over the course of about 100 days in 1994 roughly 1,000,000 Tutsi people, approximately 20% of the population of Rwanda were systematically slaughtered. A National Security Archive report points out five ways in which decisions made by the U.S. government contributed to the slow U.S. and worldwide response to the genocide including the U.S. refusal to jam extremist radio broadcasts inciting the killing, citing costs and concern with international law.

Sorry kid, you don't get the exclusive by a long shot and the Tutsi haven't used their misfortune to justify taking anything from anyone.
Rosin the Bow
Hail to the Victors Valiant
08:28 AM on 11/09/2011
"the Tutsi haven't used their misfortune to justify taking anything from anyone. "

Tell that to the Palestinians.
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06:12 PM on 11/09/2011
The Jews have not taken anything that wasn't theirs to begin with.
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courtb
11:29 AM on 11/13/2011
Beautifully written, as always.
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Anybodyseenthepopos
Like you Really give a rats...
03:12 PM on 11/08/2011
PA TV (Fatah) 11/6/2011: Rain cleanses Jerusalem of Jews' impurity so Muslims can pray

"The golden dome [of the mosque] shines with colors of the sky, with the white of clouds, while the joyous holiday [Eid Al-Adha] is good to the residents. The light rain cleanses the steps of the foreigners [Jews] so that the feet [of Muslims] in prayer will not step on impurity"

Palestinian TV (Fatah)10/25/2011 praises terrorist who planned Passover suicide bombing that killed 30


PA TV host: "We are outside the home of the patient, heroic fighter who is resolute, overcoming his chains, desiring freedom - Abbas Al-Sayid, the lion of the prison cells."
PA TV host interviews released prisoner in the house of Al-Sayid:
Host: "What's your feeling now in the home of Abbas Al-Sayid - the leader, hero, defeater of the enemies, defeater of the dungeons, and lion under interrogation?"
Female terrorist, Du'a Al-Jayousi: "He was an example and role model for us, we wanted very much to meet him."
Male terrorist, Muayyad Al-Jallad: "I do not forget our neighbor and brother, Abbas Al-Sayid. He is the crown on our heads.... He is honor to the nation, and there is no doubt that he makes us proud. Allah willing, he has enough patience and will... We are all familiar with his manly qualities of heroism and strength."

DEATH TO ISRAEL IS A LITERALISM.
07:36 PM on 11/08/2011
Quite a culture. No wonder they have done so well for themselves and added so much to the human race the last couple of centuries.
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billhodges
Self Reliant Yet Charitable
10:14 PM on 11/20/2011
And we actually have people in the US that support this kind of thinking.
02:28 PM on 11/08/2011
On reading the column it was hard to get past the fact that Burston's concern for unarmed noncombatants did not seem to extend to the unarmed noncombatants that are harmed by Israel's collective punishment through the blockade of Gaza.

I think we might have a solution to Burston's worry. We could have people like his daughter live under the conditions that Israel enforces on Palestinian unarmed noncombatants, and switch the Gazans to living under the conditions that Israeli unarmed noncombatants live. Burston seems to be indicating that he thinks that would be an improvement since he does not sees Israelis treatment of the Gazans as humane. I think it is a safe bet the Palestinians would welcome such a trade. And then everyone would be happy. Unless Burston is arguing in bad faith.
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Gui Montag
Former Palestinian Supporter
02:40 PM on 11/08/2011
This article is about Israelis and progressives. Why are you bringing the Palestinians into it.
03:48 PM on 11/08/2011
Is this a joke? Do you think it is possible to talk about condemnation of Israel without taking into account the Palestinians? I often have the feeling when reading some defenses of Israel's side of the dispute that the argument would make sense if only the personhood of the Palestinians didn't exist. You seem to be making that case for me.

I am bringing the Palestinians into it, because if one leaves them out one cannot possibly understand what is going on. I hope your view on the issues do not depend on people not understanding what is going on.
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Anybodyseenthepopos
Like you Really give a rats...
03:14 PM on 11/08/2011
WRONG.
"It should matter that Israel took pains to spare Palestinian civilians in these raids. It should matter, just as the wrongheaded, ultimately self-destructive excess and civilian casualties of past operations have mattered to those who justly condemned them."

And he did condemn them.
03:50 PM on 11/08/2011
You think that somewhere in this column Burston condemned the collective punishment of unarmed noncombatants in Gaza through their economic blockade? Can you point to where he did so? Or do you think that capitalizing "wrong" allows you to not care that the evidence does not support what you said?
11:42 AM on 11/08/2011
Yes, let us check for "holes in ideology."

Have you noticed how Zionists exclusively focus on the battles they fight without any consciousn­­­ess of the underlying land grab that is the very cause of the conflict. And if someone has the audacity to mention this cause, it is reflexivel­­y dismissed as "anti-semi­tism."

This is the Zionist ideology at work. It promotes an intentiona­­­l blindness to the displaceme­­­nt of an indigenous population (i.e. the "hole" in their ideology). This "hole" is reinforced with myths like "a people without a land, a land without a people." And while this myth was designed to soothe the conscience of well-intentioned Zionists, it has morphed into the more nefarious "there are no Palestinia­ns."

This "hole" requires ignoring the reality of ghettos and open-air prisons that followed for those it displaced. It compounds such sin by engaging in further displaceme­­­nt by building more and more settlement­­­s.

But when decades of frustratio­­n boil over into rage, the Zionist ideology'­­­s blindness to such displaceme­­­nt ("hole") convenient­­ly allows them to play the victim.

This is not to excuse the violence, but to point out the "hole" in its ideology that hinders peace.

In order to find a solution, one must properly identify the causes of the conflict. We will not acheive peace by ignoring (or belittling­­­) the legitimate grievances of the dispossese­­­d with "ideological holes."
Rosin the Bow
Hail to the Victors Valiant
11:48 AM on 11/08/2011
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lbsaltzman
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12:09 PM on 11/08/2011
I agree with your points. I will also add some more points. Israel over the years has provoked violent responses from its' victims on purpose. Israel then exploits that violence to gain the propaganda advantage, and use the violence it provokes as an excuse for the violence it engages in.

Secondly, Palestinians have the right under the Geneva Conventions to resist the occupation. Shooting of rockets towards random civilian targets is wrong, but attacks on the IDF and adult settlers who are armed and dangerous is not terrorism and is lawful resistance to the occupation whether one believes violence will be successful or not.

I empathize with all victims of violence but there is no question that Palestinians and Lebanese have suffered the worst.
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03:24 PM on 11/08/2011
"Israel over the years has provoked violent responses from its' victims on purpose." Who is playing the victim now?
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Djay0252
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11:39 AM on 11/08/2011
For those in Israel that believe in God they should take heart. The people of Israel were chosen by God, not because they are special among all other people, but God chose them to spread God's grace throughout the world. They can not do that sitting in Israel so perhaps they were born to be spread out in the world so they could.
12:59 PM on 11/08/2011
Every tribe claims to be chosen by god.
10:30 AM on 11/08/2011
These anti-Israel comments do not happen in a vacuum. While over-the-top comments against Israel are broadcast widely, similar radical comments by Israelis, especially religious leaders, are censored by the moderators. As usual, the discourse is one-sided.

The prohibition ‘Thou Shalt Not Murder’ applies only “to a Jew who kills a Jew,” write Rabbis Yitzhak Shapira and Yosef Elitzur of the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar and who wrote The King’s Torah. Non-Jews are “uncompassionate by nature” and attacks on them “curb their evil inclination,” while babies and children of Israel’s enemies may be killed since “it is clear that they will grow to harm us.”
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03:34 PM on 11/08/2011
Over the top comments against Israel are common place; google "death to Israel banner" and you will get see hundreds of thousands of examples. In contrast, the comments of Yithak Shapira and his handful of idealogues are isolated and are condemned by the majority of Israelis.
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MarcEdward
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09:43 AM on 11/08/2011
"The assumption is that Israel's crimes are of such Third Reich magnitude" A few crazies are expressing the evil, foolish notion of "Death to Israel"? Whom do they represent? NOBODY, just as the Israeli rabbi who said that Israel could deal with the Palestinians by "building ovens" doesn't represent anybody besides himself. If you're interested in the truth,talk to some progressives, instead of making up a "progressive position" that is held by just about nobody. From my POV - the US government is a dishonest broker for peace between Israel and Palestine, our support is not even handed but one sided - care to argue the point? - Palestinians suffered a great injustice in the Nabka, being chased from their homes at gunpoint, or fleeing after hearing about massacres at other Arab villages - care to argue that point? - There can be no peace without justice. It's understandable that Israel cannot tolerate a right of return, but what's wrong with compensating the victims of the Nabka? Israel has tons of money for dreaming up fantastic military campaigns, but no money to dispense justice to the Palestinians that Israel wronged in order to achieve peace? Care to argue that point? - Finally, the settlements are illegal, a provocation, a deliberate obstacle to peace, there should be no further expansions, and they need to start pulling them back - can you argue THAT point? You would rather argue against things you WISH PEOPLE HAD SAID, rather than the positions that most progressives actually agree upon.
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Gui Montag
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10:41 AM on 11/08/2011
Marc, do you read the Huffington Post comments section?
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MarcEdward
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10:51 AM on 11/08/2011
Yeah, I read smart, sensible comments from both sides, and I read extremist, insane and evil comments from both sides. I read nutty people saying evil things about Israel, I read nutty people saying evil things about Arabs and Muslims. I read people lying about history on both sides. My point is that the nuts reflect a minority opinion. I don't expect any person who thinks of themselves as "pro-Israel" to defend the Rabbi who thinks Israel should pursue a policy of genocide against the Palestinians. I won't defend somebody who's catchphrase is "death to Israel", because it's an evil and foolish position.
Rosin the Bow
Hail to the Victors Valiant
10:46 AM on 11/08/2011
"Palestinia­ns suffered a great injustice in the Nabka, being chased from their homes at gunpoint, or fleeing after hearing about massacres at other Arab villages - care to argue that point? -"

I can. Because that "suffering" was caused by the Palestinians' own actions.
10:55 AM on 11/08/2011
Yes, they had land that the European colonialists wanted. That was their crime.