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Poor Dick Cheney.
Free at last from The Bunker and ready, as always, to do whatever it takes to protect the United States of America, he's seen the vital information that proves that waterboarding works, but, doggone it, the country went and elected this softy-brainiac guy who just doesn't "get it" the way George Bush did, and doesn't want to release it.
Obama's such a wuss, he's making it sound like America doesn't have the guts to torture people anymore.
What's a patriot to do?
It would be illegal to leak classified intelligence himself. Dick Cheney has too much respect for the rule of law to do something like that.
But waterboarding works. American lives are at stake. And Dick Cheney has the all the information we need.
Open your ears America! Are you so jaded you can no longer hear the patriot's call? He's begging us. The time has come.
Waterboard Dick!!!
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Dick Cheney has no idea what America is all about. He and his cronies have done more harm to the reputation and standing of the U.S. than any enemy ever could. He and his kind need to promptly relocate to a country that embraces torture and ignores human rights. My take on the torture issue can be found on my blog: http://bloggingdemocratic.blogspot.com
Can we ignore White Collar and Government Crime? What is the Cost in the Long Run?
Ignoring White Collar Crime breeds disrespect for the law and exposes innocent people to more criminal behavior. Experts say that failure to prosecute undermines the criminal justice system, threatening public confidence and safety of our system.
What we're saying to White Collar offenders is that you can commit crime for any number of reasons but without prosecution it is essentially meaningless. Crime became meaningless so criminals ignore the laws!
One of the most obvious symptoms of contempt for the criminal justice system is individuals who commit crimes openly flouting it and continuing to commit more crimes. Illustrates the growing disrespect for the courts and the threat to public confidence in our systems. So crime grows like Toxic Assets - Parabolically or exponentially!
Look at the size of the Savings and Loan, then Enron, and now Wall Street. Each time we slap a few hands and the problem comes back several orders of magnitude larger!
I think this is the best idea in years! Let's see if he can take what he dishes out. How about providing a deluxe cell at Guantanamo re-opened just for Cheney, Bush and their cronies where they can experience first hand their creations and what their sort of democracy is like.
I LOVE our new, "softy-brainiac" president! What a relief to have a president with intelligence, heart, soul, HONESTY and a firm grip on reality. Hallelujah!
So what are we to do if our troops are tortured? Bomb the country? Where are the college graduates? Gesh.
sad sad sad, you just don't get it do ya?
we are at war, and so far it has not gotten any less threatening.
Water boarding is simply the most effective way to getting information, they should be lucky we don't string them up by their toes to get the information we need to save this country
JEB BUSH 2012!
scardy cat, feel kind of sorry for you and that small brain.
Rationalizing the sins of Bush and Cheney has risen to Biblical proportions. Your man Jeb's brother can't even get folks to fund his library, his approval numbers keep getting lower (if that's possible) and Cheney now hunts on FOX's baited fields of television, sitting there trying to look presidential. In reality, he looks more like the wolf who swallowed Little Red Riding Hood's grandmother - And still people line up behind him. Look, Jeb sold his soul during the 2000 election, and Sarah Palin is doing Tanya Harding imitations (appearing on American Chopper). The remaining Republicans are running out of popular options for 2012.
Sad sad sad that you don't get it. Any information obtained by torture is suspect at best. If we torture them we can't complain if they torture our troops or other captives. There is not one proven instance that any valuable information was obtained through waterboarding.
JEB BUSH is about as bright as his brother. If they were both light bulbs they couldn't light a small closet.
I assume this was sarcasm. Jeb Bush is an even bigger loser than Sarah Palin.
WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just got a brilliant idea!
Jeb Bush/Sarah Palin 2012! W00t!
Irresponsible. We are a country of character not cowards like cheney and cohorts.
I'll bet they would get plenty of people voulnteering to do the deed.
Cheney and Rove are very much subject to the exacting Universe for karmic misdeeds and the entire Bush administration is culpable for having no moral muscle, no ethics, no decency in human affairs, be they domestic or international. Still, the Hague should hear their indictments one day.
I'm betting that Pelosi, Reid and Obama combined don't have the guts or the balls or the moral compass required to bring all of those war criminals to justice for torture or anything else. We'll get a brief 2 ring circus and it will all be gone. They even let the companies that made domestic spying on us way before 9/11 legal and they got off free AT&T, SBC, Bellsouth, Verizon, Comcast etc. Habeas Corpus still is not restored either. The folks that looted the treasury just got bailed with bonuses so welcome to the new world order! Now shut up and sit down or the next scare event will be way badder than this flu thing was! lol
What do you want Dick a metal?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/condi-rice-pulls-a-nixon_b_193379.html
Condi Rice Pulls A Nixon: When the President Does It, That Means It is Not Illegal
I think that the only ones in the country who truly believe that torture is somehow beneficial , either as a revenge tool, or that useful information can be derived that may prevent another 9-11 type attack, are the folks who have been Hannitized and Limbaughized. I think that not even Shawn Hannity and certainly not the smarter of the two- Llimbaugh - believe that torture is useful as a tool of the "intelligence" community. Rush and Shawn were given the old Party line by Bush and Cheney and now they are left holding the bag. They should have known better, but now that millions of torture supporters call them everyday they have to play the part and accuse Obama of being "soft of terrorism."
The whole purpose of torture is to torture. This idea that useful information can be gotten by water boarding, or wall slamming, sleep deprivation and the rest of the " interogation enhancement techniques," is a con to get Americans to accept torture as if it were as normal as AIG criminals getting their taxpayers bonuses.
Actually, Limbaugh is a bully. His commentarys are sadistic and lack empathy for anyone not powerful and rich. I have no problem imagining Limbaugh personally wielding red hot irons or stretching someone on the rack. Waterboarding inflicts pain; loud music can cause permanent hearing loss, and prolonged sleep deprivation leads to hallucinations and psychoses. They are all torture. Torture is immoral and illegal. To those like Cheney who are unmoved by moral an legal arguments,i It has proven extremely effective in extracting confessions from the innocent; it has proven much less reliable in extracting intelligence. It is extremely effective in radicalizing the family and friends of the victims.
Actually, just listening to Rush would be torture.
I lost a cousin in the twin towers, and he would want to know that the people who attacted us would pay dearly, and he would also want us to take every step nessissary to see that it didnt happen again. At least we didn't take them for helicopter rides and throw them out if they didn't talk, like in vietnam. That one actully worked too.
Next time you run into your cousin then tell him your hero Bush attacked 2 countries that had nothing to do with the twin towers or his murder. As to your reference to Nam, well that one was all for naught too and we LOST retreating in chaos. There are absolutely no historical record that torturing people resulted in any actionable intelligence especially YEARS after they had been locked up.
It sometimes worked on the next in line.
It never worked on the guy that was thrown out.
So perhaps the threat of torture is effective but not the torture
Yeah, Your cousin would get justice if we brought the bastards who committed 911 to trial, convicted them, and executed them. Torture is not justice.
This guy doesn't have any sense at all. He keeps running his mouth, drawing attention to more and more things that could be used against him. While it is mainly Obama that is trying to protect his butt. Cheney is going to put himself in a position where Obama just can't use his influence at all.
Cheney the guy who branded American's as 'torturer's"should be thrown under a bus.
On a recent trip to Portugal and Spain I felt really ashamed to be called an American as a man who was sitting at a table next mine starting yelling that, "American's were no good evil-doers", called me an "American torturer." The waiter was kind enough to move us inside. Unfortunately, the same man passed our table on the way to the bathroom and made a snide remark in passing, he said, "America is going to burn in hell."
Cheney should be in jail along with Rove, Rice, Bush, Bybee and any Senators who circumvented US laws.
For the past eight years, when I travel to Mexico or Europe, I tell people I'm Canadian. They don't always believe it, but they get the drift that I don't agree with Bush's policies. Doesn't work in England, though. They suss out the accent right off.
You all need to grow a pair, Im' ashamed your an American too. Genrally speaking if you don't under any circumstances support torture then you also would not support a war for any reason. We call this conscientious objector and these people are not asked to fight. Since no laws were circumvented to brgin with, that is unless you have some abstract idea of what the law is, then there is no crime. These people used a kinder gentler version of torture to protect Americans, if you can't stomach that, thats ok, If you want make it illigeal fine, but you can't convict retroactivly, that law has not been passed yet, but give it time. More and more of our rights are being flushed down the toilit..
How token of you not to defend your country.
There's no defending torture!
What does defending your country mean to you? It sure as heck does not mean defending govt. policies you disagree with. The last 8 years made it uncomfortable if not downright dangerous to be an American traveling abroad. I have traveled internationally and twice lied about my citizenship to keep peace. After all I was in their country.
To me it means defending my country means defending the values that have traditionally made this country worth fighting for. Truth, Liberty and Justice have been goals that made this nation worth fighting for. Without those values what have you got worth defending?
I thought one of the main points in this torture debacle is the flexible moral angle. That we shouldn't waterboard anyone no matter the circumstances. If that's the case, no matter how appealing to some that might be (waterboarding Hannity and Cheney), aren't we guilty of the same moral flexibility in calling for those actions?
Satire. It's satire.
I know the post was satire but sorry, I'm against all waterboarding. Period. To say we'd waterboard those with whom we disagree is continueing the failed policies of the past, no?
No, not everyone we disagree with. But certainly Cheney is an appropriate target of this satire.
C'mon people, since you know it's satire, then you know it's a joke. You can be a liberal and still have a sense of humor.
Oh, it might be satire but I really would love to see Cheney actually waterboarded. Here was a guy with 5 draft deferments who lied about WMD to send our servicemen to die in a phony war. Would love to see how long this chicken hawk would last -- 2 seconds? But he authorized and promoted this torture and still thinks it is okay. Well let him see what it really feels like. I for one really don't see why the devil shouldn't get his due. Unless, of course, he wants to admit that it was in fact torture and he knew it then and knows it now and knows he broke the law. Keith O. is betting Hannity a $1,000.00 a second that he would change his tune about how waterboarding isn't torture. I think, even the thought of it has made Hannity shut up. I really think Dick should go away now.
Well said Brad ... maybe we can get some answers out of him.
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