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Is American Idol Ageist? On the Possibilities for a New Culture of Fame

Posted: 05/24/2012 9:15 pm

Popular culture favors youth. Celebrity favors youth. Many of today's icons of the Boomer generation achieved fame before turning 25, certainly by 35.

But unlike older generations, where many youth icons faded from superstardom after age 45, Boomer icons persist today, filling stadiums (Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Gene Simmons, and Bonnie Rait) and winning starring roles in movies (Richard Gere, Jessica Lange, Meryl Streep, and Sigourney Weaver, to name a few).

The Boomer generation's cultural hegemony is maintaining and even expanding veteran celebrity status for those well past 45, including all the aforementioned artists who all turn 63 this year.

In Marketing to Leading-Edge Baby Boomers (Paramount Market Publishing, 2005), I raised another possibility for the future of fame, if but a wish: that this nation would be capable of recognizing and elevating artists who do not achieve first acclaim until after the age of 45.

I proposed this possibility as another hopeful indication that Boomer dominance over popular culture will not fade as some critics predict; rather, the generation would continue to influence paradigm shifts about aging and celebrity appeal with more contemporary revelations. Undiscovered artists might step onto the international stage for the first time but later in life. These talented individuals would rise above ageism, looks-ism and longstanding social barriers to attaining acclaim after reaching a certain age.

After watching the ascension and victory of young Phillip Phillips on American Idol last Wednesday night -- the 21-year-old pawnshop employee from Georgia with a scraggly vocal style -- I pushed away from the eleventh Fox Network talent competition wondering what's missing in the annual line-up of would-be musical superstars. The finale program that catapulted Mr. Phillips to superstardom did not demonstrate any bashfulness about paying homage to previously discovered post-55 talent, including Credence Clearwater Revival's John Fogerty, Neil Diamond, Steven Tyler and Aerosmith and veteran country star Reba McEntire.

So what's the issue? As typical, all of this year's finalists were comfortably south of age 30. American Idol has failed to find and showcase new talent over age 45. The vast Idol audience seems to love a narrative of the sensitive-pawnshop-clerk-who-has-only-played-guitar-for-several-years storyline. But what about another gripping plotline? How about the seasoned music veteran who has played for 30 or 40 years, never achieving celebrity, but then Idol discovers this fresh talent, catapulting the veteran musician from obscurity to renown?

In April 2009, an understated woman opened her mouth and sang "I Dreamed a Dream" from the musical Les Misérables with nearly perfect pitch and clarity. The judges and television studio audience became flabbergasted, struggling to find congruency between what their eyes were witnessing and their ears were hearing.

Susan Boyle, then age 48, a church volunteer from lackluster Blackburn, Scotland, became an instant celebrity. YouTube videos of her unexpected performance on Britain's Got Talent, the UK version of American Idol, have received over 38 million views. According to Visible Measures, a company that computes viewings of Internet videos, her catalog of on-online clips was watched over 310 million times during 2009.

Following Talent, her shrink-wrapped CD, "I Dreamed a Dream," sold 701,000 copies in the United States during the first week; became the fastest-selling debut album in British history; and soared to the number one sales position in Canada, New Zealand, Ireland and Australia. Her debut album became the second-biggest selling album of 2009 in the U.S., with 3.1 million copies sold.

Equally thought-provoking is the manner in which fans purchased Boyle's album. Ninety-four percent of the sales were CDs, not digital downloads, which is counter to the prevailing trend where only 77 percent of music sales today are CDs. That means immense profits for the music publishing industry--sales levels not easily realized through downloading.

Older artists can achieve extraordinary dreams if given a chance. Western society has traditionally erected nearly insurmountable barriers before those who sought fame for the first time after the age of 45. Susan Boyle shattered those barriers. Now "American Idol" needs to grasp the potentiality and profitability of later-life talent, not on faith but because of monetary evidence.

When the culture of fame finally admits older newcomers -- those who have not spent months or even four years preparing for greatness but rather have practiced their art and nurtured their dreams for decades, as did Susan Boyle -- we can finally witness and celebrate the complete realization of human potential, unimpeded by race, culture, sex, prior socioeconomic status -- and most assuredly, age.

 
 
 

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Popular culture favors youth. Celebrity favors youth. Many of today's icons of the Boomer generation achieved fame before turning 25, certainly by 35. But unlike older generations, where many youth ...
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02:01 AM on 06/04/2012
Discussing the age requirements of such an insignificant, barely entertaining show ranks right up there with tuning in to see which of two different colored sweaters Mr. Rogers would be wearing on any particular day (when TV was still in Black and White)

And...
except for an improvement in the "smoke and mirror's" department, this show ranks about the same as Ted Mac's Original!
The GONG show! Now, THAT was entertainment!
I'm gonna go way out on a limb, here, and make a suggestion!
CHANGE THE CHANNEL and watch something worth discussing. (OK. Nothing comes to mind!)
In the meantime,someone should start a threat to discuss just what WOULD be worth discussing!
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BrentGreenCO
Generational marketing authority, speaker, author
12:03 PM on 06/04/2012
"No real social change has ever been brought about without a revolution... revolution is but thought carried into action." — Emma Goldman

You missed a significant point. This post is somewhat about "American Idol" but more about how we perceive and react to aging as a society. It is here for Huff Post readers who wish to think critically about ageism and the extent to which chronological age is a “class characteristic” justifying arbitrary discrimination and marginalization. Perhaps some will transform this “collective mentality” into action by writing articles, letters or comments.

Why don't you write a blog post of universal value, see if Huff / Post 50 will publish it on its merits, and then get ready to receive accolades for your originality and perceptiveness? We're waiting...
06:40 PM on 06/04/2012
Brent..I respect your views! But, I didn't miss the point at all. I chose not to comment on it.
I'm 61, a college graduate and a retired musician with hair to my waste.Rest assured, I know first hand how society acts.They act poorly to ANYTHING that they don't understand or happen to agree with.
"Discussing" this topic is all well and fine from the comfort and safety of your homes, but how many people here actually DO something to try to make a change?
You talk "Revolution!"
In the 60's and into the 70's, I marched on Washington, I demonstrated at the Nation Democratic Convention in '68 in Chicago. I was just a few blocks away when the shots rang out at Kent State. Peaceful demonstrations for a peaceful world.
Societies reaction?
I got bully-clubbed, teargassed, handcuffed, thrown in jail and treated less than human.. all because we just wanted PEACE!
But,perhaps my reply wasn't in the best interest of this post. I simply picked the wrong threat to try to add a little comic relief to. It wasn't my intention to disrespect anyone else's views.
My reply was just MY opinion and weather you agree with it or not, your reply is just YOUR opinion and doesn't make you right or wrong,
But your intentions are well taken and any future replies here by me will be ones of substance and merit!
And, keep in mind : "revolution" CAN be a peaceful process.
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BrentGreenCO
Generational marketing authority, speaker, author
04:35 PM on 06/05/2012
"American Idol' has had some entertainment merit, especially the 11th season finale when the venerable Neil Diamond performed at age 71. This cameo appearance inspired me to attend one of his concerts during the summer tour. But the concert is already sold out more than six weeks before his performance in my neck of the woods.

Diamond's career is solid and secure, but how many post-50 undiscovered musicians can claim anything close to this kind of performance security for the future? How many have any prospects whatsoever of being "discovered" at this late stage?

That, again, is the point of taking this show's lack of contestant age diversity quite seriously -- because it is a visible demonstration of institutionalized ageism.

Given your age, perhaps you recall when post-modern feminism started becoming an overpowering social movement. Some scholars insist this happened when feminists protested the Miss America Pageant on September 7, 1968. Using street theater tactics, such as their "freedom trash can" and crowning a sheep, merely 400 protestors changed the course of history for women's rights. And not a shot was fired.

Now just imagine if 400 talented Boomer musicians staged a visible and ironically clever protest of the inaugural show for the 12th season of "American Idol."
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BuddyMaine
02:01 AM on 05/30/2012
Is that what the XFactor is doing? No upper age limit?
01:09 AM on 05/30/2012
American Idol opts to go for ages 16-29. If you are older and want to sing - try the voice, x factor, america's got talent etc. A.I. is looking to appeal to a certain age bracket - their choice. I dont fit into there age bracket and I dont care. Big deal we all age thats life - live it to the fullest and dont cry when you dont get your way.
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BrentGreenCO
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11:14 AM on 05/30/2012
The age bracket "American Idol" chooses to target seemingly has no difficulty appreciating older, established artists such as John Fogerty and Neil Diamond -- or the show's producers would not include these classic artists in their finale. The show relies on established, middle-aged talent to add legitimacy and status. To your point, the same could be written about gender and racial equality: if you happen to be of a minority race, take your talent elsewhere because "Idol" is interested in selecting Caucasian males under 30. The society we live in today rightfully does not condone racial and gender discrimination, and it’s time to challenge media programming that erects barriers to competition simply because of age. “Idol” has become too large a part of the nation’s cultural and media narrative to allow blatant discrimination when vetting viable contestants – and that’s what the show has been doing since inception.
01:03 PM on 05/29/2012
Ofc it is my best friend was told he was too old when he applied and he was 58... nuff said -.-
08:00 PM on 05/26/2012
Hear, hear!! Dreams can come true.
05:02 AM on 05/26/2012
Have you watched X-Factor? There's an "Over 30s" category in the competition, which gives older people a chance. Last season, there was a contestant in the final 10 who was about 55 years old.
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01:15 PM on 05/25/2012
Christ, can't we old geezers ever give it up? I find it pathetic to listen to rock stars from the 60's croaking out their greatest hits. Opera stars usually know when to pack it in - why not pop artists. There comes a time when you need to sit around on a park bench and listen to your aorta deflate.
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BrentGreenCO
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02:40 PM on 05/25/2012
You can choose to live out old age by listening to your deflating aorta. I much prefer listening to a Bruce Springsteen concert ... or Fleetwood Mac concert ... or Paul McCartney concert … or U2 concert. It makes my life interesting and filled with new possibilities. And, as I turn my head side to side at these grand celebrations, I see seats filled with Boomer offspring, equally enraptured by their parents' generation's icons. In fact, I have had to compete with these youngsters to cop good concert tickets. This also keeps my life engaged in something more productive than a park bench.
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10:54 PM on 05/27/2012
Are you kidding me? These "old geezers" as you put it, are the ones who ushered in today's contemporary trend in popular music. They are the rulebreakers, the founders of a musical sound that we all take too much for granted these days. You should be jumping outta your rocking chair and tearing down the street to have the opportunity to hear just one of these musicians live, before it's too late.
01:13 PM on 05/25/2012
I've covered on the show the topic of marketers - all probably babes under the age of 35 - refusing to target Boomers, in fact, avoiding us like the proverbial plague of paupers... And I've placed the blame on both the youngster-decision-makers, and my fellow Boomers who don't make a habit of speaking with their wallets, eg concentrating our consumer dollars on those quality services/products that have made the effort to target us.
So, now, I apply that concept to this issue.
Indeed, becoming known at our age is as rare as it was in our parents' era when 50 years ago a then middle-aged unknown by the name of Phyllis Diller shot to stardom. But our biggest celebrities are maintaining a level of fame and popularity unheard of in prior generations, because they believe in themselves so thoroughly,
That as a generation we are more vibrant, better educated, and more forward-thinking in mid-age than any generation before us yet our talents and skills remain un/underappreciated, is as much of our own doing than any young whippersnapper. We buy into the silly "youth culture" as ardently as do the young. Until we recognize our own worth, no one else will.
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BrentGreenCO
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02:29 PM on 05/25/2012
The thought has occurred to me that Boomer generation celebrities also endure today because their intrepid Boomer fans allow them to remain in the spotlight, relevant and admired as always. Boomer icons are among the first wave of beneficiaries of today's "longevity revolution." Now celebrities and icons can return the favor of career longevity by recognizing and acting on opportunities to bring along talented others of their generation not fortunate enough to have had big breaks in youth. Would passing along good fortune in the form of influence and contacts be suitable karmic justice?
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Carol Orsborn
11:07 AM on 05/25/2012
Yes indeed, Brent. When Idol first set the rules, there was an uproar. In fact, The Voice and America's Got Talent, as others point out, were set up as alternatives. Agreeing with you as I do, then why did I watch the finale? From a sociologist's perspective, to keep tabs on how America's teenaged girls are coming along. Alas, cultural conditioning, hormones and human nature have not changed a bit in all these years. So much for evolution of the species.
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BrentGreenCO
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03:33 PM on 05/25/2012
I watched to see John Fogerty, Neil Diamond, Steven Tyler ... and, oh, by the way, Phillip Phillips and Jessica Sanchez. I do admire how well those young people bear up under the hot spotlight and enormous pressures. At 17 or 21, that would have been inconceivable to me.
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GeorgeTyler
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11:02 AM on 05/25/2012
Age is not what is being measured on these shows, but popularity. The older folks don't care for the publicity, and the new generation wants their name everywhere. As we get older, we want results that affect our cause or mission in life. Candy Lightner founded MADD in her late 40's. Colonial Saunders was in his 70's when he started a chain of fried chicken stands. Age is not the defining criteria, but desire for success and how you define it. This weekend is Memorial Day Weekend, and we need to honor those that are unsung heroes for serving their country. They don't want the publicity. They want to continue to contribute and make a difference, even if they are in their 70's, 80's or 90's.
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BrentGreenCO
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03:28 PM on 05/25/2012
George, I'd be interested in seeing updated analogies of people becoming celebrities later in life. Colonial Sanders has been heralded for 40 years as testimony to the myth that people can routinely become famous later in life. That's about as old as Grandma Moses. This discussion is about creative artists, particularly musicians, breaking through late in life. Name a few if you can. Oh, and speak for yourself about "older folks don't care about publicity." I'll be happy to accept on your behalf any forthcoming fame that the universe might have planned for you.
10:23 AM on 05/25/2012
Brent, if the requirements eliminated any other group, the backlash would be huge. Advertisers would pull out and that would be the end. Heck, AARP tried to hold a job fair for the "mature" unemployed and was successfully crashed by younger job seekers. Would advertisers other than Viagra, Depends and AARP support a program that highlights the talented who HAVE paid their dues and played the Ramada and local venues and still dream of their big break?
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05:05 AM on 05/25/2012
I'm grateful you wrote about this. I know many talented people past 45. Creating and working on their dreams after a hard days work and on the weekends Writing, playing and performing their music. Health conscience men and women. Full of life. So very capable if given the chance to create extraordinary dreams. Just because we age it doesn't stop us from dreaming. We still dream and hope our dreams come true.
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BrentGreenCO
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09:37 AM on 05/25/2012
My career and life have taught me that many talented people come and go who never get discovered. I’m thinking of an extraordinary musician, a brilliant, mesmerizing baritone with the stage name of Elario, who should have been singing on Broadway but in the 1970s, was traveling from Ramada Inn to Ramada Inn as a two-bit nightclub entertainer. Big breaks never came Elario’s way. He didn’t know the right people to open doors for his talent then to reach full acclaim. He didn’t have access to a possibility such as “American Idol,” nor would he today.
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01:12 AM on 05/25/2012
American Idol sucks. That kind of singing really really sucks. The Old are lucky not to be on it.
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BrentGreenCO
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12:15 PM on 05/25/2012
Professor, the catalog of music covered on "American Idol" does not suck. Much of it is classic rock, loved by Boomers, as well as older and younger generations. John Fogerty definitely does not suck. And to draw a finer line under my point, imagine that John Fogerty had spent a lifetime working for state government but playing small venues at night, never connecting with a national audience. Imagine if that mighty talent came to us late in life, rather than early when he was young. Imagine if an undiscovered Fogerty gained admission to the "Idol" competition. Would he be capable of winning? Would he deserve to win? I have not been a big "Idol" fan -- this being the first year I have watched more than a show or two. But watching this video with this year's honoree and Fogerty helps me "get it." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3hGfkcBkRQ I know a 50+ lawyer who has all the talent of Fogerty but who you will never know, thanks to the social barriers controlling our current culture of fame.
11:52 PM on 05/24/2012
American Idol has age limit requirements. You have to be between the ages of 15 and 28 to enter competition. America's Got Talent is the American version of Britain's Got Talent where Susan Boyle was discovered. Frankly, I'm tired of them all. Talent is not the deciding factor of the winner, popularity is. And another white boy playing the guitar wind again! Yawn!
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BrentGreenCO
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09:19 AM on 05/25/2012
Good point of fact, Pamela. So, I wonder ... what if "American Idol" would have a racial requirement or a sexual orientation requirement ... or that contestants must be under 30, white and male? Would there be backlash? This post is backlash ... a challenge to their conceptualization of which necessary prerequisites define a prospective idol -- other than singing talent, passion and charisma.
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Jed Diamond
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11:00 PM on 05/24/2012
Brent, to be fair, the other finalist was 16 years old, so 21 year-old Phillips was the "old man" of the finals competition. We might also note that those who win seem to be predominantly white. But your point is well-taken, we do focus too much on youth and not enough on talent. Your example of Susan Boyle reminds us that talent and charisma are not synonymous with young, white, and good looking.
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BrentGreenCO
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10:13 AM on 05/25/2012
As you've shared with me and your fans, Jed, the story of your father is a story of someone who had hoped to break through the barriers and have his talents as a writer fully realized. That did not happen, and it crushed his spirit. Thousands of post-50 men have talents and passions never fully consummated with recognition and acclaim because our society imposes barriers to access once men (and the women who love them) pass a certain age. The cultural norms that inhibit and marginalize older, undiscovered performers are celebrated weekly on "American Idol."