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Predicting the Jewish Vote in 2012

Posted: 01/19/12 06:20 PM ET

Emulating Jeremy Pressman's succinct summary of policy toward Iran, here's a summary of how American Jews feel about President Barack Obama and how they will vote in 2012:

American Jews don't like Obama because they don't feel him in their kishkes.

Jews always vote Democrat.

They don't like him because he said Israeli-Palestinian negotiations should be based on the 1967 lines (with agreed land swaps).

They like him because he refused to let the Palestinian bid for statehood pass the UN Security Council.

They don't like him because of what some administration officials have said about democracy in Israel, and Israel as a source for modern anti-Semitism.

They like him because he's a liberal, and isn't Santorum, Gingrich, Paul, or Romney.

The Orthodox sector of the Jewish population is opposed to liberal social policies, and given its increasing size in the community (due to high birthrate) will soon come to change Jewish voting patterns.

The younger generation of non-Orthodox Jews is increasingly more likely to be distressed with Israeli policy toward the Palestinians, and therefore care less about either kishkes or popular perceptions of lack of support.

Big Jewish donors are moving away from Obama.

Big Jewish donors are sticking with Obama.

Did I miss anything?

First published at Mideast Matrix, January 19, 2012.

 

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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
01:49 PM on 01/23/2012
"Did I miss anything?"

Yeah. The part about

"Predicting the Jewish Vote in 2012 "
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Cynthia Rays
peace in the valley seeker
09:46 AM on 01/20/2012
Jewish voters have been progressive in the past about civil rights, pro-choice, pro-union, and supportive of the role of government to help people in their lives. They are progressive except when it comes to seeing Palestinians as people.
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JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
02:53 PM on 01/20/2012
Really? I thought it was the Palestinians who were dehumanizing Jews....

See, e.g.:
16 June 2011: Palestinian Authority cleric calls Jews apes and pigs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhTeW0-h18U
(There's tons of stuff like this.)

As for Jews' attitude toward Palestinians, the vast majority see them as people, and most by far see them as people who have a right to self-determination and a state. However, they also know that among them are a lot of people who have been waging a war to destroy Israel and have been hunting and killing Israeli civilians toward that end. And no one thinks that there are other people who have any right to destroy one's country or to hunt and kill one's civilians.

Perhaps you ought to try treating them as fully-fledged human beings who determine their own thoughts and goals and who bear responsibility for the things that they do. Instead of doing that, you substitute for their goals what you think they should want and treat them as having no responsibility for their actions, as though they were children or not human at all.
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Vlady
Better Late
12:01 AM on 01/20/2012
And on top of that Obama and Netanyahu have different perspectives towards Hilary
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Nwo2012
Sue me, I boycott products from the settlements
07:56 AM on 01/20/2012
Netanyahu has different perspectiv­es from the world towards a lot of things. Including reality
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JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
02:54 PM on 01/20/2012
You guys are in the same club!
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lbsaltzman
Permaculture and Sustainability
11:33 PM on 01/19/2012
I will vote for him because he is far preferable to any Republican alternative. We remain a largely liberal voting block. One of the problems I have with Obama is that he hasn't been tougher with Israel.
10:10 PM on 01/19/2012
Jews in America are not one unified group, religiously or politically. There are many divisions, reform, conservative, orthodox, Hassidic etc. in religous belief and these reflect a growing division in political feeling as well. The time when the Jewish vote was monolithic and devoted to the Democratic Party is a thing of the past. Even years ago some Jews voted Republican. My own father was a Rockefeller Republican whose moderate wing of the Republican Party attracted many Jews. Today moderate Republicans are an indangered species. Instead the religious right wing dominates a more and more conservative party. Hassidic Jews find much here to be attracted to, often voting for the most socially conservative Republicans. Other Jews are still committed to socially liberal politics. Reform Jews, usually liberal in politics, are strong in suburban America. They have the greatest number of intermarriage, however, with kids who fall away from being Jewish and whose numbers, thus, grow smaller each generation. I am actually a JewBu...Jewish by birth and culture but Buddhist by belief, and there are many like me. We are perhaps the most liberal of modern American Jews, and less inclined to support Israel's oppressive policy towards the Palestinians. Although not attracted to the militancy always at the core of both American political parties I find the Republican Party more and more dominated by the religious right, loathsome in their conviction that only Christians can recieve salvation. As such I will vote for Obama as the lesser of all evils.
08:52 AM on 01/23/2012
Question: "Israel's oppressive policy towards the Palestinians" - Is that a fact or your personal
opinion?
What about Muslim separatists in the 3 Southern provinces that sabotage , kill, murder. Didn't
a few years ago the Thai security forces round up a truckload of suspects, bound them and place them face down on a truck causing many to suffocate. Do you march on the Thai parliament or embassy - demanding justice for these victims on a daily basis or do you just let it slide? What if Malaysia and Burma had
40,000 missiles and rockets pointed at Thailand? And add to it , if Indonesia had Medium range
Ballistic Missiles with biological and possibly nuclear warheads aimed for Thailand. Would that
change your perspective ? Or do you have one set of standards for other people and another set
of standards when Jews try to defend themselves and survive. Jews are both the most passionate people when it comes to survival - and at the same time - have the same capacity to back stab their own breathren like no other. I guess , Buddha forbid, you should scrutinize for even a second, the atrocities of the Palestinians - not only on Israel, but to their own people, including infanticide. But I guess - you just let it slide. How enlightened we are. Just because Buddha was able to explore the evil capacity in one's self doesn't eliminate the possibilty of evil behavior in others.
04:01 AM on 01/25/2012
My my, a few of my words "less inclined" certainly inspired you to jump to a huge amount of conclusions about me that are mostly inaccurate. Less inclined, does not mean I am completly negative towards Israel's positon with Palestinians. I am well aware of rockets shot into Israel from the Gaza strip, & of constant terrorist attacks upon Israeli citizens from militant Arabs crossing from the West Bank. I am not sympathetic to Iran and her leaders constant threats towards Israel, or their saber rattling against the US Navy in the Gulf ( I happen to be a Navy veteran of Vietnam, served proudly, though I did not agree with that war).
I am well aware of the terrorist activities in south Thailand. I know many Thai Moslems quite well and I have heard them complain about the governments treatment at times of it's Moslem citizens.
You have a lot of nerve using a few of my words to preach to me about all the well known evils of the Middle East, and great gall to say I have double standards. You know nothing of the soul searching I do on a daily basis trying to come to some kind of balanced thinking on the difficulty problems present in both the near east and south east Asia. I don't expect an apology, you don't sound like you are fair minded enough to consider one, just think before you write and accuse others of so many things that are completly
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07:50 PM on 01/19/2012
Well that just clears everything up!