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Forgive Student Loan Debts to Stimulate the Economy

Posted: 10/19/11 06:22 PM ET

All attempts so far to create economic policies to stimulate the economy have failed. The economic stimulus act of 2008 proved to be a partial success or absolute failure depending on whose opinion you agree with. Regardless of how this act affected banks like Goldman Sachs and Bank of America, the American people only noticed their economic standings continue to spiral downward.

It's time to try something new. In reviewing the Tumblr blog for We Are The 99% there are a few themes that appear. People feel that they are mostly hurting because of the lack of job opportunities, the low wages of being underemployed, rising food costs, unaffordable health care and trying to pay off student loans.

What would happen if criteria was created by which Federal student loan debts could be forgiven in a fashion similar to how we have forgiven the debts of Third World Countries? As of June 2010, Americans owed $826.5 billion in student loans. This was the magic number that put student loan debt at the top of the debt mountain with the distinction of surpassing American credit card debt.

Most of the people I know with student loans do not expect to be able to pay them off in less than 30 years. Some of them do not know if they will be able to pay off their student loan debt in their lifetime.

Compound interest has many adults owing more than twice the amount they started with upon graduation. Not to mention the scores of people who have declared bankruptcy to eliminate debt and get a fresh start only to find that student loans cannot be included in bankruptcy claims, even if that debt is higher than all of your other debts.

If Federal student loan debt was forgiven to every American citizen wouldn't the economy be stimulated?

While the Occupy Wall Street movement continues to grow and spread, there is no common call to action. I propose that the first call to action be to help ease the economic stress of Americans is to forgive student loan debt. What do you say?

 

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12:44 AM on 11/16/2011
i went to a business college in 1988 in California after going through a legal separation from my husband. i learned basically nothing (computer school) and was told the amount i had to repay was $3,500 but the school would get me a job. which it did not. i was 38 years of age then and am now 62 and owe $10,000. because of deferments on and off. also, did not graduate and left after 7 months. two years later the school went bankrupt. so who is getting the payments all these years? my balance does not go down. i'm so depressed about it i considered taking my life just to get out of it. i really need the forgi_ness as it has been 23 years. any help ? i can really use. it.
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shelley
10:57 AM on 10/27/2011
I did some calculations. If the GOV. forgave (paid off as a stimulus) the student loans (appr. 650 Billion) and lets say that the average loan was 40K.
It would give 16,250,000 people(650 billion / 40k) $316 per month extra in their wallet. (40k @7.25% for 20 years is $316/mn).
So what kind of effect would this have.
Well the banks would get 650 billion to start loaning to businesses.
AND 16,250,000 PEOPLE WOULD HAVE AN EXTRA $316 PER MONTH or this translate into
$5,135,000,000 PER MONTH BEING PUMPED BACK INTO THE ECONOMY TO SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE GETTING THE LOANS FROM THE BANKS. WIN WIN ?????
09:49 AM on 10/27/2011
Would a Student Loan Forgiveness program be better as a TWO POINTED MESSAGE: Stimulus Money for the BANKS and Loan Forgiveness for the Students. A 500-800 BILLION dollar STIMULUS would be given to the banks to pay off the student loans. All of the banks now have BIILIONS of dollars to loan and MILLIONS of people now have several hundred dollars MORE EACH MONTH to pump (spend) into the economy. WIN WIN????
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Morgan Stubblefield
10:06 PM on 10/24/2011
I did everything right, got good grades in high school, went to school, and tried to get a job. I took out debt I was told I could consolidate, which was a lie, then the bottom fell out of the economy and I couldn't find a job. Now a $30k loan is in default and I'm terrified I'll never be able to give my son what he wants or needs, and that my bad credit will haunt me and my husband forever.
09:34 AM on 10/24/2011
OR.....they could move to the Dakotas where the gold rush is on!
01:29 AM on 10/24/2011
Until student loan debts are forgiven or until our standard consumer protections and bankruptcy protection are restored to student loans, we ourselves have to become the solution we are looking for. As someone with over $175K in student loans, we should come together through Intelligent means of Capital creation to create what we want for ourselves. Why? Because the banks and Student Lending Industry will not change their usurious ways.
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dengal
10:26 AM on 10/22/2011
can I get a refund on the student loans I faithfully paid month after month?
06:20 PM on 10/21/2011
When people make stupid decisions and take on more debt than they can pay, it is not up to the government to forgive their loans because the rest of the taxpayers will be picking up the tab. Pay what you owe and consider it a lesson learned.
10:02 PM on 10/21/2011
Everyone is to blame but the school? How would you budget for a car with a 4 year loan if they can change the price of the car every year after you buy it. It is modern day loan sharking from institutions that should be paying tax, not collecting tax dollars.
03:12 PM on 10/25/2011
only someone from Texas would think that getting an education would be a stupid decision. When you need a college education to get a job (even a front desk entry level job now a days) people are going to take out any debt possible with the hopes of investing in a career they will be able to pay off their debt with.
04:19 PM on 10/25/2011
I can understand getting an education. I cannot understand someone going as far in debt as some of these have, but it was ultimately their decision to incur the debt, so it is their responsibility to pay it back, no matter how long it takes.
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mcostello
It's just math
02:14 PM on 10/21/2011
There should be a formula like; if you have paid the principle, plus ten percent, then it's all forgiven. Great stimulus idea.
03:08 AM on 10/21/2011
I lived in the UK for a long time, and this was exactly the problem there, too. I do agree with your general suggestion to forgive the student loans. I never had to take one myself, although I have two degrees: for one I was on State funding, for another I had a sponsor. But I also agree with other commenters that there should be a degree of differentiation.

I honestly have very little idea of how these things work in America, but the way I'd deal with the problem in the UK, is that I'd cancel tuition fees but leave the accrued costs of studying. However, I'd do this AFTER the student has graduated, and ONE YEAR after they graduated. This gives them time to "find a job" (I don't quite like the expression LOL). And I'd also enforce a savings plan on each and every young person who starts working. Not a pension plan as such, but a savings plan. So that in the event of another financial crisis they may have enough to afford relocating for a better job prospect.
10:52 PM on 10/20/2011
I would love to be able to pay back my student loan. I would have great pride in myself if I could pay back what I owe and on time. I don't owe that much, really, but I struggled for months to find the part-time job I'm working now. I hope I can qualify for an income based repayment plan, or else I will have to default.
10:01 PM on 10/20/2011
Forgive student loans? Are you nuts? Choosing expensive, unaffordable
schools is a choice. Don't expect the taxpayers to pickup your tab for that. State Universities offer cheaper rates but they are not good enough for some spoiled brats. Get real and grow up.
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Lefty88
I have built up an immunity to Iocane powder
06:29 PM on 10/23/2011
Well, you've shown you can put everyone into your cookie-cutter idea of how student loans are incurred. Good job.

Now, you get real.

State schools will still have students racking up tens of thousands of dollars, and online (accredited) schools open doors for those who can't attend due to geographical or physical limitations, but they're very pricey and loans are necessary any way you slice it. Apparently you believe that everyone hurt by interest rates and a horrid job market is a "spoiled brat" who chose to go to an Ivy League institution. What a joke! It's getting to the point that all universities are expensive and unaffordable.

Yes, taking on that debt is a choice, as is committing to make a better future for one's family through education and hopefully a better shot in the job market. Signing loan paperwork when the economy was stable and then losing one's job due to a spiraling, downsizing economy will challenge anyone's best of intentions.
01:58 PM on 10/26/2011
I went to a state school and still came out with $45,000 in debt. Granted, that's one year of tuition at an Ivy League school, but still an insane amount of debt for someone fresh out of college to be faced with. The idea of taking on that debt to go to college is that it will increase the chances of landing a better job. That's not reality anymore, and until it is, something needs to be done.
09:58 PM on 10/20/2011
Brett, my thanks to you and all the posters for a debate of the economic inequality issues that have been too long ignored. I would like to hear some in the future about other economic proposals that address the different types of debt and struggles faced by the 99%. Also, I had meant by my comment that the bankruptcy laws should be changed so that student debt is as easily dischargeable in bankruptcy as other consumer debt. Thanks for clearing that up.
02:01 PM on 10/20/2011
No self-righteous, smugness here. I will not burden anyone with a discussion of what I did or did not do to pay or not pay off $110K in student debt.

But, again, what about the focus on the "least" of the 99%, whose life-or-de­ath economic struggles, put the student-de­bt problems to shame.

A one-time student "bailout" of today's 'relative' (to others) privileged­, very-small subset of the 99%ers lucky enough to go to college and graduate school, does not even begin to address the problems of the MAJORITY of the Americans 99%ers with less-than or nothing-beyond a high school diploma.

What about the needs of the truly neediest, poorest, minority and immigrant subclass among us? Let's bring them up fromm the back of the bus and attend to the needs of the "least of our people" first!

(And for those who think that students with massive debt would not have access to bankruptcy court even if student debt is made fully dischargeable. Think again, the litmus test for bankruptcy has always been do your liabilities exceed your assets. Of course a student with no- or little income and enormous student debt would be eligible).
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06:13 PM on 10/20/2011
Thanks for your comment and good points. This article was meant as a talking point to hear what ideas people have around whether it's a smart or viable option to get behind. My focus on student loan debt was not meant to be the main or only solution to the economic injustices the 99% are facing.

This is a both/and proposition or a starting place for an actionable step to reform economic systems and policies that are not working. When the majority of people with student loans don't have the means to pay them back, it reflects a broken system. This in no way detracts from other people in dire economic straights.

As for the litmus test for bankruptcy being assets exceeding liabilities, it's not that simple with student loans. Here's a direct quote from Sallie Mae's website:

It is difficult to prove "undue hardship" unless you are physically unable to work and there is no chance of your making money. To discharge your student loans under this special case, you must file a separate motion with the bankruptcy court and present your situation before a judge.
If your student loans are the largest part of your debt, you are better off not filing for bankruptcy because courts are very reluctant to discharge student loans.
03:16 PM on 10/21/2011
If you really want to look at this then you have to start with Big Education. These crooked corporations have been taking advantage of these kids from the start. They make hundreds of millions in sports, don't pay the kids and won't even fly their mother to the final 4 to watch them play. They take in all kinds of money, force kids to live where they say, eat their food and raise their tuition beyond inflation every year because they know they are locked in 3 more years to complete. So lets start taking on Big Education with these points,

1, They pay no taxes, they need to pay their fair share like all other corporations with boards.
2. Regulate them so that a rate a student gets when they start is the same as when they leave minus inflation that can be applied only once.
3. All donations have to be reported and taxed as non-earned income.
4. All sports procedes have to be spent on helping pay for defaulted loans on all kids that maintain a 3.0 GPA and still can't find work where the payment is less than 10% of their income.
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mcostello
It's just math
02:19 PM on 10/21/2011
Those who are poor depend on a vibrant economy, and the producing class having more expendable income would drive a service economy. It is the same argument as the bush tax cuts, except that the super rich have pretty much reached the limit of the amount of money they can spend, and they are just re-investing in ruining the economy.
01:35 PM on 10/20/2011
Most of the students are at the back of long waiting for a job line, due to our corrupt universities.

They take your money for tuition and import your competitors to work on their grants on the cheap.... The new job imports H1bs either compete for jobs here or compete at home.

Outcome? Massive losses of your money. Where is the surprise?

Good luck paying your loan back, unlikely.

89,000- PhDs are now in temporary employment postdoctoral positions with no health benefits, etc, according to the National Postdoctoral Association (many of theses are H1Bs receiving PhDs in foreign countries, but need jobs here).

27,000- PhDs- the number of Science and Engineering postdocs (Physics and Engineering) with temporary visas at US universities, as given by the National Science Foundation, tripling from 1985 to 2005.

Rank (corrupt job destroying university) H1B Visa Applications H1B Visa Average Salary(2008)

1 University of Michigan 1,292 61,687
2 Columbia University 991 65,441
3 Harvard University 973 58,135
4 University OF Florida 899
5 Duke University 898 59,548
6 Emory University 844 242,688
7 Northwestern University 825 53,085
8 The Ohio State University 811 50,740
9 University of California Davis

On and on it will go.........
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BrettGreene
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06:25 PM on 10/20/2011
I wasn't aware of these stats. They're very interesting. To see another side of the H1B visa story check out this video interview with Brad Feld regarding the Startup Visa Act of 2011 http://bit.ly/olIq1p. This act is designed to help an immigrant entrepreneur to receive a two year visa if he or she can show that a qualified U.S. investor is willing to dedicate a significant sum – a minimum of $250,000 – to the immigrant’s startup venture. It's another way to create jobs.