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Why GDP Growth Has Not Provided Jobs Yet

Posted: 07/14/11 04:51 PM ET

Why aren't businesses hiring? There is a lot of analysis about this, but, to get a better understanding, it may be best to work in reverse by looking at the past and figuring out what the relative strength or weakness of conditions are today and then examine which policies, if any, might work. There is always a tendency for us to inflate our perception of current economic woes since these conditions happen to be acting on us. This is especially true if there is little understanding of the past. To explain economic conditions, business pundits and politicians seem to either apply inaccurate analysis based upon little data or self-serving positions. This takes a complex issue and renders it unintelligible, making it impossible for people to plan.

For simplicity purposes, let's go ahead and accept the rough, traditional definition of a recession as when real, inflation-adjusted GDP falls for two consecutive quarters (there are other important factors in evaluating economies, to be sure). The most recent recession, before the 2007 downturn, was between July 1990 and March 1991 when real GDP fell by 1.4 percent.1 When the economy started expanding again in March, employment did not really recover until much later, August 1993.2 (It started to improve prior to August, but for the sake of this analysis, I am considering "recovered" to be within 125 percent of its original level before the recession took hold.) For example, at the end of the 1990 recession, unemployment was 6.8 percent, but it continued to rise and finally peaked at 7.8 percent in June 1992 after the recession ended. Employment didn't really recover, though, until August 1993 when unemployment dropped down to within 125 percent of the July 1990 level. The recessionary cycle lasted only eight months, but its effect on unemployment did not end so quickly. So, the lag between GDP growth and healthy employment was about two years -- a long time, especially for those without jobs.

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a. These figures include months--since the formal end of the recession--that passed before the unemployment rate reached its highest point.

b. I am considering "recovered" to be at or below 125% of its pre-recession level. Again these figures include months after the formal recession ended. From the last recession, employment hasn't yet "recovered."


Prior to 1990, the most recent recession began in July 1981 and ended in November 1982 according to the National Bureau of Economic Research. Real GDP measures are available by quarter at best, so conservatively looking at the change from Q3 of 1981 to Q4 of 1982, real GDP dropped by 2.6 percent. Unemployment rates during this recession peaked at the end, hitting 10.8 percent, but it did not recover for another 11 months.

Prior to 1981, there was another short recession during the early part of 1980. During that six month period, real GDP decreased by 2.3 percent, and unemployment rose from 6 to 7.8 percent. It declined slightly after this 1980 recession but was not able to improve much prior to the next recession in 1981.

And finally, the recession that occurred from 1973-75 is important to consider as well, especially given our current economy. Between November 1973 and March 1975, real GDP decreased by 4.4 percent. The effect on unemployment was worse, and it didn't reach its high -- 9.0 percent which was nearly double its position at the start of the contraction -- until two months after the recession ended. Even then, employment didn't recover for 33 months after the recession.

Thankfully, periods of economic growth between contractions are typically longer than these periods of decline, so the economy as whole expands over time -- Americans are good business people. In fact, the period after the 1990-91 recession, from 1991-2001, was the longest period of business expansion in the U.S. on record. In 2001, there were no two consecutive periods of decline, so while early 2001 was not a great time for our economy it does not meet our simple criteria for a recession.

During the most recent recession, the economy began contracting during December 2007, and real GDP dropped cumulatively by 4.1 percent before it reached its trough in June 2009. GDP began growing again that June, but unemployment did not reach its height until October, four months later. At its peak, unemployment had more than doubled, rising 5.4 percentage points to 10.1 percent in October 2009. And, since then unemployment has very slightly decreased; as of today, it is still elevated at around 9.1 percent -- way too high.

Over the past 40 years, the average time between growth of GDP after a recession and a recovery in employment is approximately 19 months. This means that we are doing slightly worse than average, which at least gives some better perspective, if not comfort. Since this recession caused the biggest shock to employment levels, it makes some sense for recovery to take some time.

But, what to do, that is the key? Now, let's overlay some of the most important influencers on these times and see what falls out. There are three major factors outside of general economic cycles that may affect conditions in any economy: wars, domestic policy (taxes, regulation, and other government actions that might disrupt how people plan), and "externalities" -- things that are specific to a time that simply throw a monkey wrench into everything. Of course, no one can know with certainty which factors have the largest effect on a particular economy, which always keeps the debate alive and interesting. For example, the 9/11 terrorist attacks probably did not have a great effect on economic conditions, but it is difficult to tell for sure.

Starting with the recession of 1990-91. During the first quarter, the Republic of Iraq invaded the State of Kuwait, and the U.S. soon intervened. More importantly, the conflict caused uncertainty about future oil supply, and the result was the 1990 oil price spike. These rising prices, combined with consumer pessimism and/or fear from the savings and loan crisis, probably caused the contraction. It is not clear why hiring took so long to recover, but my guess is that companies would not willingly increase their payroll if they were unsure about the price or even availability of oil and its impact on overhead costs.

The recessions in 1981-82 and 1980 should be considered together. GDP was able to recover during the few months between them, but the unemployment rate was elevated throughout the period. The 1970s had ended with an energy crisis, similar to the troubles we would see in 1991, but more importantly the Federal Reserve tightened the money supply, hoping to curb the high inflation from the 1970s. Some of us can remember devastating double-digit inflation and interest rates. Once those interest rates came down, the economy and hiring saw much improvement. There were fewer unknowns for business owners to incorporate in hiring decisions, which is why I think hiring was able to pick up more quickly than with other contraction periods. It is hard to tell with certainty what brought us out of this recession, but it is not hard to understand why businesses would hire more people as a significant part of their cost structure (cost of debt/interest) was rapidly decreasing.

And for the 1973-75 recession, we can reasonably assume it was OPEC's impact on oil prices, stagflation from government spending, and the market crash in 1973 causing the recession. Without knowing how the oil pricing changes would conclude or how the market crash would recover, business owners again hesitated to add employees.

So, what does this mean for today? Why aren't business owners hiring people? Like the 1973-75 and 1990-91 recessions, why is there such a lag with job growth? I think businesses have uncertainty around oil prices, yes, but the real cause is their uncertainty about conditions and interferences with their operating environment. If not this, what else?? Interest rates are low. Inflation has largely been under control since the late 1970s. And GDP is growing, probably the most important barometer.

Beyond the fact that there will always be cycles in the economy for which no one can be blamed (You almost never hear this from the media. Bad things happen, and sometimes no one is to blame), you have to look at our friends in Washington and say that they have been so indecisive on the correct things (the national deficit) and so decisive on the wrong things (such as national health care, possible tax increases) that they are introducing fear and uncertainty into the market. Ask yourself; if you ran a business today, would you really increase your risks by hiring people?

It is not a question of whether national health care is a legitimate issue; it is legitimate. It is about the timing and method with which the issue was addressed. And, unfortunately, health care is just one issue. Republicans are not exempt from criticism either. Which is in the most important, strategic interest of the United States: having jobs for people and growing the economy or waging at least two or three major military efforts, causing a major diversion of resources and mindshare? Look at the national debt: both parties clearly own this issue, as the national debt has grown almost consistently over decades under both parties. In fact, there is very little research on the possible effects of the deficit on hiring, which we are not even addressing here. It is common sense that operating within a country that has become almost a debtor nation cannot make you feel great about hiring people and taking risks.

Finally, at root, in the arguments, there is an almost universal misunderstanding of the 27 million businesses that create the vast majority of jobs in this country. Only about 5,000 businesses in the country are "public" companies; the rest are privately-held, run by people, who like the rest of us, worry about paying their bills, sending their kids to college, and/or saving for retirement. Privately-held businesses probably account for approximately 70% of GDP, and they create up to 80% of new jobs. So, if we accept that only these businesses can create long-lasting job growth, let's examine what the government has done for them: threatened to increase their taxes; introduced more uncertainty, cost, and administration to a large part of their income statements, namely health care; and continued to spend more money than ever, increasing the national debt and creating uncertainty around future interest rates.

It is arrogant and misinformed to simply say that "businesspeople" are "conservative" and risk-intolerant. This entirely misses the point. Most people I know who run businesses are not conservative or liberal; they are practical and need to be. The people who run businesses already operate, even without government interference, within extremely risky operating conditions, conditions that most of us would not tolerate. Most are valiantly hanging on; the average net profit margin for these companies is approximately 3.5 percent. (So, out of every sales dollar, these people are only making about four cents). If you do the math on average sales for these companies, you quickly realize that these people are not rolling cigars in $20 bills as some members of the political establishment imply, a thoughtless supposition that stops meaningful discourse on an issue important to every American.

If you do anything to increase the operating risk of these companies or to increase their operating costs, it seems logical that these companies and people would try to control their biggest operating cost: people. If someone told you that you might lose your job next month, would you start spending more money? It is imperative that we do everything we can at a government level to add stability for these businesses and allow them to plan. If there was ever a time, now is the time for the government to step back and let free market economics work the way it has for over 200 years in America. Paradoxically, the politicians who would benefit most politically by a recovery seem bent on imposing themselves on the current system. Businesses that survived the 2007-09 recession know how the market works or should work if uninterrupted -- they would not have survived the recession if they didn't. Let them take the reins, so they can feel more confident in the market and start hiring, which history shows us they will do. The government needs to understand that only the people who run privately-held businesses can create long run employment in the United States. Everything else is a temporary fix. Over 200 years ago, some Americans coined the phrase, "Don't tread on me." Today, the new mantra might be "Leave us alone."

1 - All GDP data used herein comes from the real GDP calculations provided by the Bureau of Economic Analysis and uses chained 2005 dollars, seasonally adjusted at annual rates. The recession durations and unemployment figures use monthly figures, but the corresponding quarterly data was used for GDP, measuring peak to trough. For more information on their data, visit www.bea.gov.

2 - Unemployment data was mined from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and is seasonally adjusted. To access this data visit www.bls.gov.

 
 
 
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dadw5boys
Disabled Vietnam Vet
11:39 PM on 07/17/2011
So how are all the Businesses in other countries doing it with even higher taxes ?
What a load. The Consumer Economy has moved on to do it's damage in other countries selling them unneed crapola and training them thru the media to buy buy buy !
They maxed out the Physcobabble here in the USA maxing out credit and stealing equity.

We need to warn the world to not allow that into their society !
03:58 AM on 07/17/2011
It's seems funny that back in the fifties and sixties when taxes were at their highest business's still hired.
Ask any business if their taxes are to high, and if there is to much regulation and they will say yes. This is like asking the fox to guard the hen house.
If business worked today on the free market as it is supposed to do, supply and demand would be what controlled the need for hiring.
Today supply and demand is out the window, and we are told that taxes and regulation control what business does.
Today we don't make business work with in the market, but instead dictate what the market is.
The bigger business's in this country are more worried about the stock market and their investors than making products and services, their profits come before everything. Those profits made bigger by lobbing government, then building their business's. American business's are what's ruining the country, because they use the country to death, pay as little taxes as they can, hire as few people as they can, have moved manufacturing overseas, and invest their money overseas.
The last people to ask about job creation are American big business.
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Aaron Tessoni
11:03 PM on 09/07/2011
Bingo... We have a winner!
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LunaPark
Don't believe it until it's officially denied
12:35 PM on 07/16/2011
The CEO of Cisco in an interview on 60 Minutes said the US has the highest corporate tax rates in the world. He moved operations overseas and creating 100,000 jobs in Ireland. He also said he keeps billions invested overseas to escape the high US tax rate. We need this investment capital back on our own shores; without the capital there is no growth. Please, spare me the "GE didn't pay any taxes" dribble. GE, like Fannie and Freddie, is a corporate welfare entity that would not exist if it were not for government intervention.
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arkymorgan
Nobody knows the trouble I've been...
03:24 PM on 07/16/2011
He lied. Scandinavian countries (just for example) tax the cr@p out of businesses - but IKEA and Lego and a thousand other companies remain headquartered and operationally Scandinavian.

Their CEOs understand that they get a lot for their tax money, and still, apparently feel patriotic enough to forego some profits to benefit their fellow citizens.

Cisco's CEO and his shareholders have no loyalty to anything or anyone except themselves. If the people of America fail they won't be moved emotionally in the slightest - just moved to take their offices elsewhere.
04:13 AM on 07/18/2011
To the best of my knowledge I think that he was deliberately vague on the facts. It might actually be that the sheer corporate tax is - in comparison - higher in the US than in other places. BUT you need to look at the whole tax package. For example: If in Germany the corporte tax rate is lower you would still have to take into account that the company is requiered by law to pay their share on each workers health care and unemployment insurance and the pension system. All three of them are national funds. He is also requiered by law to allow for more days of paid leave and/or other duties to the community where the actual plant resides.
If you factorize these things in you usually refer to/ compare "unit labor costs". Since it's unlikely that someone in his position is not aware (actually calculating these costs constantly) I can only assume his answer was more politically than economically motivated.
Besides that, given that "double Irish" or "double Dutch" are known tax evasion schemes (towards tax havens without any tax at all) him mentioning Ireland explicitly made me raise my eyebrows anyways. IMO it would be wrong to excuse companies from paying taxes (=lifting their share of the burden). After all, they are profiting from the infrastructure nations provide (or have you recently seen a lot of companies moving production to Somalia [=small, if any, state or government and no tax regime]).
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jeffrey678
You don't happen to make it. You make it happen.
09:55 AM on 07/16/2011
Where is the uncertainty?

Does anyone think that cutting taxes and cutting road maintenance will and creating the certainty that no one will get paid working on roads will result in the asphalt plant hiring people to sell to road paver's who hire to pave roads, because both have the certainty of bankruptcy that makes the hire people?

The certainty that a nursing home won't get paid enough so it will hire more people with the certainty it will go bankrupt?

The certainty that the retirees on SS won't be able to pay their property taxes so they are forced to dump their house creating the certainty a home builder needs that he can't make a profit on new homes so he will hire more workers?

The tax cuts over the past decade have made wise public and private investment impossible and the economy has sucked and has failed to create jobs for a decade.
05:01 PM on 07/16/2011
I agree. And the deregulation that started with Reagan made the 2008 financial meltdown possible, leading to the layoffs of millions of people. If deregulation created jobs, wouldn't all those people have jobs?
05:27 PM on 07/15/2011
I believe the trends are changing. I think most of us can see the business model needs to adapt to structured relevant markets. (energy vs. heating) If we invest as we change into new markets how fast can we recover technically or structurally. The products at least in some markets took a leap and few were ready. Training and planning along with a clear path in the future stopped most in their tracks. In my field we can catch up but we need other relevant industries to come along.
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Myles Huff
04:57 PM on 07/15/2011
tyco... enron... BP... fannie/freddy... THIS is what less regulation gets me!
04:51 PM on 07/15/2011
Another supply sider. If businesses were not doing well because of taxes and regulations, then how come they are sitting on 2 TRILLION in cash? The author leaves out the fact that, starting in the early 80s with the Reagan tax cut we became a bubble economy as the rich and corporations had cash to play with and manipulate markets. No longer did companies make money the old fashioned way, through innovative products made here, it was now all about the art of the deal. It was about making money WITH money and not making it with tangibles. Higher taxes leaves the rich and corporations with enough for a comfortable lifestyle, but not enough to act like economic royalists who destroy the American way of life for the rest of us. As for regulations, well, I like clean air and water. How about you, sir.
05:59 PM on 07/15/2011
What, did you not read the article? They are sitting on the cash because they are concerned about the operating environment. Calm the fears, and they will hire.
07:27 PM on 07/15/2011
Two years ago they said uncertainty over the Obama HC plan was preventing hiring. Then last year they said uncertainty over extending the Bush tax cuts was preventing hiring. Now they say uncertainty over the debt ceiling is preventing hiring. Uncertainty is a part of any business's operations. If management can't adapt or be flexible when outside events change, other than laying people off, then maybe the first place to start the hiring is with new managers. This is nothing more than collusion between the GOP and the business community to fulfill McConnell's wish to make Obama a one term president. Businesses don't need tax cuts; they need customers. Unemployed customers cannot create demand. It seems today's capitalist is someone with 2 trilllion in the bank afraid to make a move unless the outcome is garaunteed. Whatever happened to risk/reward?
05:06 PM on 07/16/2011
They aren't hiring because they can layoff employees and get the remaining employees to pick up the slack for fear of being laid off. They aren't hiring because people can't even afford Walmart anymore and are having to shop at dollar stores. Just who do they think is going to buy their products when everyone's unemployed?
04:37 PM on 07/15/2011
Why would businesses expand if people aren't buying? How can people buy if they don't have money? How can people have money if they don't have a decent job ( or a nice inheritance?).
05:09 PM on 07/16/2011
In 1913 Henry Ford doubled the average wage of his autoworkers so that they'd be able to buy the cars they were building. Employee absenteeism and turnover went down and productivity went up.

In 2011 people earn so little money they can no longer afford to shop at Walmart and are having to shop at dollar stores. This is progress?
03:45 PM on 07/15/2011
The Republican fantasy world speaks. The “job creators†have uncertainty. If the “job creators†worked for me, I would fire them for total lack of performance. Federal tax rates are at a sixty-year low; two thirds of businesses operating in this country pay zero taxes; there has been a complete dismantlement of government oversight. What of the uncertainty that the bottom 98% face: will my job (if I have one) get shipped overseas, will I be able to pay my mortgage, take care of my sick Mother, or send my children to college? The primary reason for the jobless recovery is our complete lack of an Industrial Policy, and the loss of our Manufacturing Sector. The supply-side myth of the “job creators†needs to have a stake driven through its undead heart!
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
04:37 PM on 07/15/2011
evidently you cannot read as well...

People with an business and an average bottom line of 3.5% aren;t in the high tax brackets...and seeing as SMALL business create 80% of all jobs...you're pointing fingers at your neighbors who are selfemployed.
04:52 PM on 07/15/2011
Define "small business." If you say "any company with fewer than 500 employees" then your counter reply is wrong.
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contrariandy
Progressive Capitalism created the Middle Class.
05:49 PM on 07/15/2011
So, small businesses wouldn't be affected by letting the top 2 brackets expire at the end of 2012. That's good news. The Republicans have been lying to us after all, who would have thunk it?
03:05 PM on 07/15/2011
Best article I have ever read on the Huffington Post. Liberals, please print this article out and tape it on the desk next to your computer for future reference. The funny part is the article isn't saying anything new if you really know what you're talking about....
04:54 PM on 07/15/2011
Three presidents (Reagan, Bush43 and Obama) have cut taxes 5-6 trillion dollars. Today, even anti-bribery laws are considered too onerous a regulatory burden (the US Chamber lobbys against them.) The article isn't saying anything about this OR the 2 trillion in cash these poor overburdened captains of industry are sitting on right now, if either you or the author made any sense.
10:48 AM on 07/16/2011
They're sitting on their cash becuase they don't know whats happening next while Democrats publically and repeatedly attack "the rich, etc."
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Robert SF
10:19 AM on 07/16/2011
Right, it's nothing new, just the same warmed-over rightwing talking points. "Give us more billions and we'll create jobs." Billions given, no jobs created. "Oh, no, you have to give us more billions." Right.
10:48 AM on 07/16/2011
More like quit taking our money from us to fund your:
1. useless govt programs and social welfare
2. Line the pockets of politicans and lobbyist and special interest groups
3. Serve as a direct transfer of wealth from citizens into the pockets of unions, special interest groups and anyone who will pay for your re-election
02:06 PM on 07/15/2011
"It is imperative that we do everything we can at a government level to add stability for these businesses and allow them to plan. If there was ever a time, now is the time for the government to step back and let free market economics work the way it has for over 200 years in America. "

Do these two sentences contradict each other?
Which is it: the government doing everything it can to provide stability, or the government just stepping back and letting the market reign? The author can't be suggesting that the government stepping back will provide stability -- can he? Wasn't the government "stepping back" (i.e., dismantling oversight and regulation, and standing by while CEOs turned our economy into their personal casino) the very thing that created much of the instability which led to the crash?
06:07 PM on 07/15/2011
The government provides stability by stepping out of the way. Yes, the is exactly the (absolutely correct) course he is suggesting.

The half measure would be for government to restructure itself such that rules were clear and there was no "permitting" process. Down in the weeds, this is a HUGE cause of certainty and huge money waster, not knowing if (or when) a permit will be granted because the regulation is complex and byzantine that it essentially comes down a bureaucrats judgment.
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meglon978
Beware of gifts bearing Greeks.
01:50 PM on 07/15/2011
IF low taxes and deregulation were the things that lead to job creation, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in right now. Taxes are the lowest they've been in 60 years (lower for many small businesses even), and deregulation has been happening for 30 years, yet here we are with no jobs.

Your argument is to keep doing things THAT HAVEN'T WORKED for at least 30 years, and stupidly expect it to work at some point in the future. How about we start by not selling out the future of this country to the greedy and self serving.
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
04:39 PM on 07/15/2011
So...the average business with a 3.5% bottom line would have more money to hire if his taxes were higher?
04:54 PM on 07/15/2011
Define "average business."
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Robert SF
10:21 AM on 07/16/2011
But business has money to hire. $2 trillion, remember?

And why are we arguing this, anyway? The reason there are no jobs is that there is no demand. It has nothing to do with lowering taxes.
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jadeba
01:40 PM on 07/15/2011
Umm, call me naive but I don't believe confidence in the market or deregulation or a few extra bucks in someone's pockets create a job. Demand for goods and services, demand from the Middle class for them is what creates jobs. We run several businesses and, you know what, we hire when we need someone, we don't hire because we we can afford to - no one does. If demand was high and people were able to consume those goods and services, there would be minimal complaints about hardship on small business - it would simply be accepted as the cost of doing profitable business. We need jobs for middle class people who will then create demand which will then create jobs. And, you seem to forget that Bush took a surplus and turned it into a deficit by his wars of choice and tax cuts to people who don't need them, don't create jobs either. Remember, Clinton left a surplus? Trickle down economics does not work, perpetuating the myth that the "wealthy are job creators" and gicing them tax breaks does not work. The only way out is increase revenue through fair taxation and to put the American people back to work. Period.
03:02 PM on 07/15/2011
Respectfully, you are naive - the market is pretty much dependent on one major factor, investors confidence and understanding of what the future holds w their investment - we don't have that today. Regulation costs business money, plain and simple w person hours and compliance costs. Some regs are good, for arguments sake, but the more you have, the more hoops a company has to jump through instead of tending to business. Last but not least - tax cuts even 10%, would put thousands of extra dollars in peoples pockets every year. Instead of squeaking by that money would pay rent, make car payments, insurance, possibly invested or even go on vacation....
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ez14livin
03:37 PM on 07/15/2011
investors.... invest in public businesses

the article, which you have advised all libs to post specifcally states: " of the 27 million businesses that create the vast majority of jobs in this country. Only about 5,000 businesses in the country are "public" companies; the rest are privately-held, run by people"

jadeba is one of those people and i have strong feeling he/she has 'boots on the ground' about this where you are just droning on....
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05:50 PM on 07/15/2011
G.W. Bush cut taxes six or so times and never raised taxes. Where are all the jobs those tax cuts created?
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
04:45 PM on 07/15/2011
actually Clinton left a Projected Surplus...for the year 2010....and this was crumbling with the Dot.com collapse before his term ended...

The Deficit never went down a dime during Clintons presidency, in his BEST year following a couple years after he cut the Capital Gains rate in '97 the annual increase in the Deficit only ROSE 17 Billion....That revenue was gone wthin 2 years when the stock market fell apart and the NASDAQ dropped from 5,000 to 2,000 from 2000 to the end of 2001..Thats a lot of lost equity and all during Clinton's last year.,
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waltifarian
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
01:38 PM on 07/15/2011
While corporate tax rates in the US are only sloghtly lower than the EU, the code is riddled with loopholes that the vessels shipping our jobs to China can easily sail through. Regulations? C'mon. The Reportage of Oil Spills for example, is on the Honor System! Look at the all the drug recalls: the FDA is basically a marketing arm for Pharma and Biotech. The SEC and the CFTC, agressive regulators, on what planet? They haven't got the staff to enfore what few laws left Rubin and the entire Buch admin were done. What, pray tell happened during the "Energy Task Force". Einstein said the defintion of insanity is doing the same thing over and over an expecting a different outcome. We saw this move 2000-2008, we know how it badly it ends for all but a small few that export jobs and perhaps some Hedge Managers on Wall Streets. Oh, and CEOs as well.
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wrightthewrong
Medicare for All
01:26 PM on 07/15/2011
What a bunch of hogwash.