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Lessons From Pussy Riot

Posted: 08/17/2012 2:45 pm

Fuck Obama! I don't mean that at all. If I could vote for the man ten times this November, I would.

But if I did mean it, I could write it, here, in America, without fear of government reprisals, censorship or jail.

I know: It's almost prosaic to talk about freedom of speech. Not the outer edge definitions, expansions and limitations that come out of Supreme Court decisions, but regular, meat and potatoes freedom of speech. To most of us, it's no more exotic than running water (another first world privilege we take for granted).

But seeing that picture of Pussy Riot behind the glass in court, chilled me, shook me, messed me all up.

As Americans, we rarely feel powerless. We know we can protest, call our congressmen, tweet. We can get a reaction. We can, and will, effect change. Looking at those three young musicians, knowing that we are powerless to help them, imagining what it must be like for them -- women who were born into the brief moments of a free Russia -- to see it all get closed off, locked away, I am left breathless.

Yes. We have troubles here. Just look at whatever may be written above or below me on the site. But the very fact that we can debate them, yell about them, fight for them, means that we have hope. Which is like oxygen. As long as you have it, you are alive.

I cannot imagine how young Russians today have that oxygen.

One more thing: Fuck Putin!

That one I did mean.

 
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Fuck Obama! I don't mean that at all. If I could vote for the man ten times this November, I would. But if I did mean it, I could write it, here, in America, without fear of government reprisals, cen...
Fuck Obama! I don't mean that at all. If I could vote for the man ten times this November, I would. But if I did mean it, I could write it, here, in America, without fear of government reprisals, cen...
 
 
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10:56 PM on 08/23/2012
How edgy is that? This is the intellectual some where to the left of Paul Ryan’s lips moving when he reads Ayn Rand.
02:42 AM on 08/19/2012
You are naive, indeed. Since 9/11, the U.S. has continued to violate international human rights conventions and attacked and arrested Occupy movement protestors who did nothing to provoke the police, as proven in video recordings - all in the name of national security. And then there was Citizen's United - virtually guaranteeing an end to any shred of true democracy. The difference between Russia and the U.S. is that in Russia the government controls free speech, in America it's the corporations. If you have money in America, you can effect change. The rest of us "99 percenters" can shout to the rooftops all we want as long as we don't actually challenge the system.
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MacTheCat
Those Clouds You See Aren't really clouds at all
08:54 PM on 08/18/2012
Are you sure we still have those freedoms, Brian?

Because what i got from those demonstrations is that those Russian kids have more guts than all of us in America combined.

Guess we won't find out for sure if we have those freedoms, or the guts, until a group of folks tries to protest something here.
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BlairCase
06:12 PM on 08/18/2012
Would you suport a white supremacy band's right to invade the Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin and perform their musioc in the temple's sanctuary? Shouldn't there be some common sense limits on freedom of speech?
01:17 PM on 08/20/2012
Common sense limits on freedom of speech means common sense punishments for violations of those limits. In the case of those 3 women, it would mean less jail time than they've already served (as if they were violent criminals & flight risks) & fines proportional to the average income of a Muscovite.
02:38 PM on 08/18/2012
So why is this story getting so much more press in the U.S. than the attempt to extradite Assange to Sweden where he will no doubt be kidnapped--er, detained for embarrassing the U.S. government?

From the article: "One more thing: F*** Putin! That one I did mean."

Yes, that's it. So much for the free press.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
02:25 PM on 08/18/2012
No More Theocracies!
10:37 AM on 08/18/2012
The imperial mindset. The outrage. The sensationalism.
What should be the top headlines? What should be the editorial emphasis?
Why, the allegedly “severe” injustices of THEM, some other nation - outside our imperial domain!
From the native Americans to the Libyans, Vietnamese to Iraqis, now Syrians and Iranians.
Oh, and let’s add the Russians and Chinese to THEM as well.

We may have the biggest prison network in the world, and daily mete out long unjust sentences for petty and victimless crimes.
We may persecute Wikileaks, whistleblowers, and demonstrators under our own legal versions of “hooliganism”.
We may support criminal narco-states in Colombia and Afghanistan, despotism in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, apartheid in Israel, and a mafia-run Kosovo.
We may invade, assassinate, torture and imprison without any trial at all- but if their faults are labeled “severe”,
ours must appear even less so by virtue of being unmentioned, less mentioned, or dismissed as hardly relevant because we have “free speech”.

So what shall we do about THEM?
Invade them, bomb them, economically sanction them , or threaten with more missiles?
Shall we have our CIA and nefarious allies attempt “regime change”?
Shut down their embassy?

Or should we be satisfied simply having our own upstanding government protest their behavior?
Certainly, no ludicrous hypocrisy there.

We don’t need to set any example ourselves.
First, WE have to fix THEM.
We need to make an example of THEM.

Protecting “freedom” is so hard when we must make other countries practice it.
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Boduognat
Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'entrate.
04:23 AM on 08/19/2012
That's why our Western Press is instructed to continue to point the finger at them...

because as long as "we" can keep the finger pointed at "them"...

it isn't pointing at "us".
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hornedcog
Tax Tea Now!
10:25 AM on 08/18/2012
Zealotry is the original sin. Free people suffer when they disregard the imposition of religion into the laws that determine their rights to privacy or liberty.
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BlairCase
09:10 AM on 08/18/2012
I agree with the majority of Russian people who think the sanctiity of places of worship should be respected. The band should have staged their protest on public property. Red Square comes to mind.
08:31 AM on 08/18/2012
It must be peaceful living in your bubble. . . from Huff Post article:

FBI Director Robert Mueller recently confirmed that the bureau is pushing for a new web wiretap law.
With the Federal Bureau of Investigation's recent push for web wiretaps and increased Internet surveillance, the U.S. seems to be edging closer to the fictional state described in George Orwell's "1984."

As CNET reported earlier this week, the FBI recently created a secret web-surveillance unit, the Domestic Communications Assistance Center, aimed at creating tech that would allow the authorities to more easily eavesdrop on . . . etc etc
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Red Ohio
What we have here is... failure to communicate.
05:33 AM on 08/18/2012
I forget who said this "Our system is screwed up, but I think it is better than all the rest". I endorse that message.
12:05 PM on 08/18/2012
We citizens certainly have unquestionable moral standing to denounce them Russkies,
because we do not allow OUR government to commit such HORRIFYING outrages.
We are the “best”,
notwithstanding the war crime invasions, torture, assassinations, daily severe sentences for victimless crimes, imprisonment without trial, our Homeland version of political “hooliganism”.

How dare they insult our fine sensibilities.
Our courts would NEVER give sentences so harsh, even if neo-Nazis demonstrated in a synagogue.
Nor would our upstanding allies like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kosovo, Colombia, Israel, or Honduras.

Russia needs a “humanitarian” invasion by USA! Iran next and China too!
Go team USA! Go get ‘em.
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Red Ohio
What we have here is... failure to communicate.
02:41 PM on 08/18/2012
Like I said, we have a screwed up system and I wouldn't trade it for any other. Don't mind tweaking things though.
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pcw5150
Un-learn.
02:59 PM on 08/18/2012
But you'll gladly go along with suppression of OWS protests, right? You cheer USA USA as the oligarchs seek to impose wall st centric hegemony in two wars of choice? You laud the oligarchs who would have you believe torture, oh I'm sorry, 'enhanced interrogation' is legal and proper, and that it is now law per NDAA to lock up Americans indefinitely and without charge.

Do you really think those Russian patriots put their well being on the line to have any of the above imposed on them?

On the global stage this so called American exception-alism is A JOKE. The global community thinks we are nuts...the last thing they want is for the current US values set as imposed by the wealthy to be imposed upon them. They have enough of that already.
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Richard Pearce
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01:43 AM on 08/18/2012
I'm just wondering, but do you suppose that if the Dixie Chicks, at the time they (to paraphrase the headline writer) Pissed Off Bush (and so many other Americans) had done something in a Bush support stronghold that could get them arrested, charged, and sentenced to jail, think they'd have ended up as convicts?
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02:38 AM on 08/18/2012
F&F. Don't think the idea of trial and incarceration for the Dixie Chicks wasn't fleshed out in the Religious, Reich-winged, District Attorney's office in Austin. Today's instigators of flagellation for heresy are the Teavangelicals and Southern Baptist Alliance of Pastors. (sic)
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Boduognat
Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'entrate.
04:19 AM on 08/18/2012
Well, there you have it.

Just yesterday, a Bahraini activist was sentenced to three years in prison, but since Bahrain is an "ally", or better, a client state of the USA, we won't hear an awful lot on that.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/16/world/meast/bahrain-activist-sentenced/index.html

And not so long ago, both the Danish and the Belgian Governments sentenced Greenpeace activists to jailtime for crashing the party at two separate Climate summits.

http://euobserver.com/institutional/32015
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/22/denmark-sentences-greenpeace-activists-copenhagen

Off course, it is also a LOT easier for "celebrities" and "artists" like Madonna and Bono to speak out in favour or against events that are "sexy" from a marketing / commercial point of view, but (whilst there were real musicians like f.ex. the Dixie Chicks) I haven't heard (m)any of these "celebrities" take a stand to voice their opposition to the Iraq War, or the continued military occupation of the Palestinians. For that, we are mostly dependent on Israelis who have the coconuts to speak out against their own government.

The heart of the matter is: if countries have such an appalling record (like the US, the UK, the EU) in guaranteeing their own citizens' alleged "Freedoms", they really aren't in a good position to teach others a lesson in morality.
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pcw5150
Un-learn.
03:02 PM on 08/18/2012
Great point. Bahrain brutally suppressed Arab Spring uprisings...but not a peep in the media.
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sweetpatriot
28,woman,healthcareworker,polyglot,bisexual.
01:26 AM on 08/18/2012
I am waiting for more P riot.You will see copy cat soon
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HEXYEBO
What time is it ? Same as usual
09:43 PM on 08/17/2012
Planning to stage a Penis Riot at the next feminist convention!
We will pray to Gaia Primordial Mother Earth to oust Obama.
Expect all the freedom-lovers to support us.
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HEXYEBO
What time is it ? Same as usual
09:40 PM on 08/17/2012
Not all publicity stunts should be defended. Especially not the ones which suppress people's right to practice their religion free of harassment.
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Red Ohio
What we have here is... failure to communicate.
05:43 AM on 08/18/2012
I agree that they should have been chastised for picking a church to disturb, but 2 years is insane. Some community service or time served even would have been fine.
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07:56 PM on 08/18/2012
Russia is very "young" democracy, to prevent more of this, 2 years are perfect.
They will be sweeping streets, probably.
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hornedcog
Tax Tea Now!
09:43 AM on 08/18/2012
Where does one's religion end and another's begin?