Give Annapolis a Chance

Posted November 28, 2007 | 08:51 AM (EST)



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The American press, predictably, is portraying the summit in Annapolis in strictly Bush v. Clinton terms. Clinton got engaged and failed, Bush is not getting engaged... and will also fail. The process is doomed to failure without outside pressure. Maybe. But also: Maybe not.

The Israeli press, equally predictably, is viewing the event differently, and it's important that we understand what they're saying. And that is: Bush is a groupie of Israel and, with the possibly exception of Giuliani, that is not likely to be the case next time, so better do something now in favorable terms or face a harsh reality in 2009 or beyond. There are problems with this point of view, too (if peace today is so favorable to Israel the Palestinians will balk) but it may be a smarter way to view the event. Here's Yoel Marcus in Haaretz:

Bush's road map has tangled up everything in a knot with its sequential demands: Before commencing permanent status talks, the Palestinians are supposed to halt terror and dismantle the terror organizations, and Israel is supposed to evacuate outposts in the territories. These demands have set the proverbial dog running in circles, chasing its own tail. Sly foxes like Sharon and Olmert have embraced the road map on the supposition that the Palestinians are not capable of ending terror.

Condoleezza Rice is the one who urged Bush to cut this Gordian knot with an international conference attended by the Quartet, the moderate Arab countries, and anyone supportive of peace in the Middle East. The conference thus created sponsorship for the two-states-for-two-peoples solution, a return to 1967 borders, and the creation of settlement blocs based on territorial exchange. Israel, which has always been traumatized by the idea of an imposed solution, received a promise from Bush that the Annapolis summit would only sponsor the talks, and not twist Israel's arm.

The summit in its current configuration, with Syria represented by a deputy minister (half coffee/half tea) has divided the world into good guys and bad guys, and isolated Iran and Hamas. For Bush, that is already a major accomplishment, says Americologist Zvi Rafiah.

As far as the talks themselves are concerned, it is still up to the Palestinians to prove that they're on the side of the good guys. The presence of the moderate Arab states is meant to back up Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas. That is important not only for Abbas, but also for Israel.

We have never had a president like George W. Bush, and chances are we will never have another. If we reach an agreement, we are not only clinching a deal with Mahmoud Abbas, but with the whole of the moderate Arab world. On the other hand, Israel could find itself under pressure and sanctions from the whole of the international community if it fails to open up and engage in a serious discussion of core issues, as Olmert promised to do a few weeks ago.

It is doubtful that America's next president will be as friendly and supportive as Bush, who can be trusted not to pressure us on issues that compromise Israel's security and survival. So whatever can be achieved we must try to achieve now, while Bush is still at the helm. We are not going to be able to fool all of the people all of the time.

Bush showed his hypocrisy by criticizing Nancy Pelosi for talking to Syria ("aiding and abetting the enemy," "signalling to Syria they are part of the international community") then inviting Syria to U.S. NAVAL HEADQUARTERS, but having the moderate Arab states there was Condi's big coup. If there is peace, or even intermediate steps toward peace, the Arab world has pre-signed on to supporting it. The reason for that, of course, is that a weakened Iraq has strengthened Iran and its cronies Hezbollah and Hamas, and the Arab world fears them.

For better or worse, Annapolis was the first event of the post-war-in-Iraq-Middle East, which is one reason why the participants didn't exactly know how to act -- and another reason we have no choice but to give it a chance.


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- Doubtom43 See Profile I'm a Fan of Doubtom43 permalink

Oh for chrissakes get real! everybody in the world knows that this will end up like all the attempts to get something settled in the Middle East. Israel has no intention of giving in on any point, never has and never will. It is bent on creating "greater Israel" and it has to continue to steal land from the Palestinians to achieve that goal.
And the United States will continue to support the theft of Palestinian land with American tax dollars. That's the game plan folks, all the rest is just for show. Annapolis is a pure waste of time and OUR money.
The real mystery is how Israel ever got this stanglehold on our government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 11/30/2007
- mouselion See Profile I'm a Fan of mouselion permalink

This Annapolis thing is just like how Bush is handling PR on Iraq now:

Not actually taking action to make progress, just talking about how progress is possible.

It's their latest ruse. You don't have to actually DO anything -- just talk about how it can be possible. They figure enough people will actually THINK things are getting done, or that they'll look back on the memory of this all and confuse the talking for action.

These Bushies, once you start seeing the pattern, there's a logic to it. Albeit a screwy George-In-Wonderland logic.

The only thing that will likely come from Annapolis is that the Republicans will point back to it in the future. Beyond that, it's gonna have to come from the minds and hearts of the Israeli and Palestinian people first, otherwise it don't mean a damn thing what any U.S. president wants (which is a legacy).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 11/29/2007
- wrabbitt See Profile I'm a Fan of wrabbitt permalink

I'm not Jewish but, look at it from their point of view, they are within rockets range of an enemy who's only point in life is to kill jews and eradicate Israel. Don't they deserve peace? not, that it will ever happen but, stability in the middle east might start there. There is always going to be someone who wants to start a war over a teddy bear. But, peace is possible. if only a dream at this time, but, we can hope. It has to start some where. And, until freedom to practice any religion with out persecution is enacted in all countrys of the world we are on the brink of WW3. after which we will be back in the stone age,if anyone survives

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 11/29/2007
- Weafer See Profile I'm a Fan of Weafer permalink

Words are powerful (like from Hamas) but we should remember they are essentially air and can have no bearing on the realities or possible groundswell taking place in Annapolis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 11/29/2007
- llozano See Profile I'm a Fan of llozano permalink

The last paragraph confused me. "Annapolis was the first event of the post war Iraq..." Last time I read the papers we are still in a war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Did I miss something?
I am not very literate on the intricacies of the problems between Israel and the Palestinians. I do know this has been going for a long time and it just keeps getting worse not better. This tells me that we keep trying to impose the same solution and coming up with the same results. Maybe the answer is to let them sort this out themselves without our help, money, weapons and subsidies. Either they want a lasting peace and solution or they don't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 11/29/2007
- HERBMOSH See Profile I'm a Fan of HERBMOSH permalink

IT'S EASY TO FIGURE OUT IF ANNAPOLIS HAS ANY CHANCE.
WATCH THE SETTLEMENT ACTIVITY IN THE WEST BANK. IF IT'S TRULY FROZEN FOR THE DURATION PEACE HAS A CHANCE.

IF IT'S NOT FROZEN.........FORGET IT !

HERB MOSHER

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 11/29/2007
- deadseascrolls1 See Profile I'm a Fan of deadseascrolls1 permalink

These politicians and diplomats have no new information about this conflict that was not already known by any previous politicians and diplomats. And this because of censorship by the media. Thus, there is not a snowflake's chance in hell that Peace will be achieved as a result of Annapolis.

http://after-the-false-peace.blogspot.com/

Michael Cecil

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 11/29/2007
- Toole See Profile I'm a Fan of Toole permalink

It is doubtful that anything will be accomplished after Annapolis. This is mainly due to Israel's tight fisted stand in order not to have any settlement in the region. The leadership of that country is basking on its superior military capability, enabled by overwhelming U.S. commitment, to trump any other solution than the one in its vision.
Grabbing more land in the Middle East has always been the Israeli motto. However, the days when Israel could cause havoc at will are gone. With the U.S. weakening on the international scene Israelis are advised to get used to be on their own in the near future.
If they do not opt for a lasting peaceful solution, like the one offered by the Arab League, they may run out of options. The future may not be as favourable as the past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 11/29/2007
- FOXYLADY See Profile I'm a Fan of FOXYLADY permalink

CLINTON FAILED?/ IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE "AGREEMENT" WAS A GOOD ONE. ARAFAT AND HIS SO CALLED PALESTINIANS JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE UP 10% OF LAND THE ISRAELI WANTED TO KEEP AS A "BUFFER ZONE" AGAINST MORTORS AND MISSLES. IT WILL BE THE SAME NOW....THERE HAS TO BE GUARANTEES THAT THE INNOCENT ISRAELI CITIZENS WON'T HAVE MORTORS FLYING ACROSS INTO THEIR HOMES/LAND. BUT...IF PALESTINIANS GET THEIR OWN COUNTRY, AND PULL THE USUAL CRAP, ISRAEL WILL HAVE THE "RIGHT" TO "ATTACK" A NATION INVADING THEIR LAND!! AND WE ALL KNOW WHO WILL WIN....LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE ARAB NATIONS THOUGHT THEY'D TAKE DOWN ISRAEL ONCE BEFORE.......AND LOST!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 11/29/2007
- Troubledgoodangel See Profile I'm a Fan of Troubledgoodangel permalink

The Gordian knot of settlements versus stopping of terror needs not be. I propose the following agenda: the settlements issue must be negotiated in a way, that the Israelis freeze construction this instant, and return the extant 50% settlements to the Palestinian refugees upon signing of the peace treaty. The rest of the settlements should be exchanged for a tangible Marshalllike plan to rebuid Palestine, also upon signing. As far as stopping the terror, there should be a universal ceasefire both for Israel and for Hamas, imposed during negotiations. Secondly, Hamas should join the peace tratatives immediately, and also abide by the ceasefire. The Gordian knot will be untangled the instant these agreements are put in place, alongside with a guarantee to Syria that Golan Heights question will be negotiated conclusively prior to the Israeli Palestinian final peace agreement. This will give incentive to Syria to rein in Hezbollah definitively, which should also be the outcome of Golan agreement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 11/29/2007
- OckhamsElectricRazor See Profile I'm a Fan of OckhamsElectricRazor permalink

Good grief; give us a break! Annapolis was a media event to provide a positive back drop for the elections and to pump up the legacy needs of the Bush admin. After seven years of abject failure, do you really think that the people who created much of this mess have suddenly found the competence fix anything in the Middle East?! Do you seriously think that the the US or World publics would actually believe anything the Bush admin has to say on the Middle East?! Soviet-era Pravda had more credibility than Bush does on foreign policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 AM on 11/29/2007
- janmB See Profile I'm a Fan of janmB permalink

Every president since Roosevelt have made similar attempts to bring peace to the middle east.
Fighting and hate is something they are born into so even with brief periods of quiet, we can expect them to resume doing what they like to do best.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 AM on 11/29/2007
- AdamWykle See Profile I'm a Fan of AdamWykle permalink

There wouldn't be any bloodshed throughout these last years and certainly no criminal Israeli apartheid in the territories if the United States had not vetoed resolutions to send UN peacekeepers there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 11/28/2007
- AdamWykle See Profile I'm a Fan of AdamWykle permalink

The Palestinians are really dealing with two Israels with these talks and God help them.

We really are not honest peace brokers, especially not with our current administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 11/28/2007
- Catalin See Profile I'm a Fan of Catalin permalink

In addition to Annapolis, the Bush administration is about to tackle another major foreign policy issue. Like the 11th-hour push on Israel and Palestine, it's an example of Bush's determination to stay relevant by attacking the thorny global problems he largely sidestepped until now.
Details here: http://oilandglory.com/2007/11/news-bush-appointing-new-senior-envoy.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 11/28/2007
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